[quote]TheZ-Man wrote:
Prof X: “Don’t get mad at me because you happen to be weak as hell.”
Don’t make assumptions. You have no idea what you are talking about.[/quote]
Ok, now I see what the problem is…you are one of those people who aren’t that good at debating a topic so you focus in on something that has NOTHING to do with the topic of the thread and harp on it just so you can have a point. I could care less how weak you are. Why don’t you enlighten me?
JMB
A couple of folks have said that they don’t see any problem with leaving a bar loaded with 45s after they’re finished, but find it annoying when the person before them sandwiched some 10s and 25s underneath a 45, forcing these folks to strip the bar to make the rack “usable” for them.
Sorry, but the hypocrisy contained in that attitude is really amusing.
[quote]TeeVee69 wrote:
A couple of folks have said that they don’t see any problem with leaving a bar loaded with 45s after they’re finished, but find it annoying when the person before them sandwiched some 10s and 25s underneath a 45, forcing these folks to strip the bar to make the rack “usable” for them.
Sorry, but the hypocrisy contained in that attitude is really amusing.[/quote]
Yes, unless you take into account that many assume that the average lifter can move 45lbs on a bar. In one instance, it isn’t an inconvenience because the weight is already there for the individual. In the other, it is an inconvenience because it requires removal of all plates before you can begin at all. If I felt that someone unable to even move a 45lbs plates was coming behind me, I would unrack all of the weight. The majority of the people at the gym I currently train can get that much and more. I think this has been explained several times now. Let me ask, can you lift 45lbs? Would walking up to, say, an HS bench press machine and finding 45lbs on each side hinder your workout?
You should attempt to follow whatever rules apply to YOUR gym, not make some insistance that the entire world must act like you want them to in their gyms.
If anyone has worked in a gym, it’s a ball ache. Where i train, some dozy twat will load up a bar with 220kg, and with wraps proceed to “shrug” (sort of) with this, and then put it back, leaving this bar full of weight, so when i go to squat, i hae to strip this bar.
The new owners are great, they keep the gym tidy. I always feel more obligated when that is done. The rest are ignorant bastards in my book.
Also, there is a possible issue with litigation and weights on the floor.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
TeeVee69 wrote:
A couple of folks have said that they don’t see any problem with leaving a bar loaded with 45s after they’re finished, but find it annoying when the person before them sandwiched some 10s and 25s underneath a 45, forcing these folks to strip the bar to make the rack “usable” for them.
Sorry, but the hypocrisy contained in that attitude is really amusing.
Yes, unless you take into account that many assume that the average lifter can move 45lbs on a bar. In one instance, it isn’t an inconvenience because the weight is already there for the individual. In the other, it is an inconvenience because it requires removal of all plates before you can begin at all. If I felt that someone unable to even move a 45lbs plates was coming behind me, I would unrack all of the weight. The majority of the people at the gym I currently train can get that much and more. I think this has been explained several times now. Let me ask, can you lift 45lbs? Would walking up to, say, an HS bench press machine and finding 45lbs on each side hinder your workout?
You should attempt to follow whatever rules apply to YOUR gym, not make some insistance that the entire world must act like you want them to in their gyms.
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pretty bored today, Professor?
lame.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
TeeVee69 wrote:
A couple of folks have said that they don’t see any problem with leaving a bar loaded with 45s after they’re finished, but find it annoying when the person before them sandwiched some 10s and 25s underneath a 45, forcing these folks to strip the bar to make the rack “usable” for them.
Sorry, but the hypocrisy contained in that attitude is really amusing.
Yes, unless you take into account that many assume that the average lifter can move 45lbs on a bar. In one instance, it isn’t an inconvenience because the weight is already there for the individual. In the other, it is an inconvenience because it requires removal of all plates before you can begin at all. If I felt that someone unable to even move a 45lbs plates was coming behind me, I would unrack all of the weight. The majority of the people at the gym I currently train can get that much and more. I think this has been explained several times now. Let me ask, can you lift 45lbs? Would walking up to, say, an HS bench press machine and finding 45lbs on each side hinder your workout?
You should attempt to follow whatever rules apply to YOUR gym, not make some insistance that the entire world must act like you want them to in their gyms.
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But that’s the point. You probably aren’t sticking around after your last set to know who’s going to be using the rack after you, are you? If so, then you’re spending way too much time in the gym. I don’t assume who’s going to be using the rack after me or what that person plans to do in the rack, so common sense (and courtesy) tells me to just unload the bar. And it’s not about being able to move 45s around, anymore than it is about your moving 10s or 25s. I’m perfectly capable of unloading those 45s, as I’m sure you are with the 10s and 25s. Heck, maybe the next guy wants to stretch his hams in the rack with an unloaded bar on his back before beginning with any weight. Who’s to say? The point is about common courtesy, and not making the next person clean up after you in order to make the rack usable for him. Why is it so hard to understand that?
But I agree with your last point. The bottom line is to follow the protocol that’s appropriate to your gym.
[quote]miniross wrote:
If anyone has worked in a gym, it’s a ball ache. Where i train, some dozy twat will load up a bar with 220kg, and with wraps proceed to “shrug” (sort of) with this, and then put it back, leaving this bar full of weight, so when i go to squat, i hae to strip this bar.
The new owners are great, they keep the gym tidy. I always feel more obligated when that is done. The rest are ignorant bastards in my book.
Also, there is a possible issue with litigation and weights on the floor.
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Lol, I just remembered that I did that today. Damn… I don’t remember if I unloaded the bar though. Why’d you make me remember!? Now I feel bad…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
TeeVee69 wrote:
A couple of folks have said that they don’t see any problem with leaving a bar loaded with 45s after they’re finished, but find it annoying when the person before them sandwiched some 10s and 25s underneath a 45, forcing these folks to strip the bar to make the rack “usable” for them.
Sorry, but the hypocrisy contained in that attitude is really amusing.
Yes, unless you take into account that many assume that the average lifter can move 45lbs on a bar. In one instance, it isn’t an inconvenience because the weight is already there for the individual. In the other, it is an inconvenience because it requires removal of all plates before you can begin at all. If I felt that someone unable to even move a 45lbs plates was coming behind me, I would unrack all of the weight. The majority of the people at the gym I currently train can get that much and more. I think this has been explained several times now. Let me ask, can you lift 45lbs? Would walking up to, say, an HS bench press machine and finding 45lbs on each side hinder your workout?
You should attempt to follow whatever rules apply to YOUR gym, not make some insistance that the entire world must act like you want them to in their gyms.
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And since you keep harping on it, WTF is the deal with your “hardcore” gym that allows letting the newbies get away with sandwiching the 10s and 25s under the 45s? I thought crap like that happens only in the “foo-foo” gyms the rest of us go to…
There is no way to justify leaving any weights on the bar. You are not doing anyone a favor but yourself by being too lazy to unrack all the weights. As others have stated, adjusting the rack to the proper height is made even a tad bit more difficult by having weight on there. Average height means nothing, I am 6’4" so your short lazy ass is making me do more unnecessary work.
The only time weights should be left is if someone asks you while you are unracking to leave the plates on.
Even though I CAN handle 90lbs. on the bar, I still WANT my first warm up to be with just the bar, and then move up in 50 and 90lbs. increments from there.
Anyone new to squatting should probably do them with just the bar.
But this is all pointless, those of you who have convinced yourself you are doing the right thing by not reracking your weights will not be swayed. Thanks for being lazy!
I’m about 5’5" on a good day, I prolly clean up around the gym more than 95% of other people but I don’t really care if I have to strip a couple of 45’s off the damn bar just bcos it’s a little heavy!!I’m there to lift the friggin weights, why is this such a big issue!
Its a courtesy thing. After you are done with something, CLEAN UP!!! Unless your mommy cleans up after you, then you don’t have to (because you think she’ll clean up everything).
After you use your penis to go to the bathroom, you put it away. When you are done eating a meal, you put the dishes where they should be to be washed. You don’t just leave them lying around the house. After you are done pouring a glass of milk, you put the milk where it was, you don’t just leave it on the counter.
The whole idea isn’t that people who think the bar should be stripped can’t put the weights away, we just see it as a courtesy thing and its a slap in the face to the next guy/girl that has to put the weights away, move the bar to the height the next user wants to use it at, etc.
Also, when someone leaves weight on the bar and they leave the weight area, you don’t know if they are done with it, if they went to the bathroom, went to get a drink and will be right back, etc.
[quote]TeeVee69 wrote:
And since you keep harping on it, WTF is the deal with your “hardcore” gym that allows letting the newbies get away with sandwiching the 10s and 25s under the 45s? I thought crap like that happens only in the “foo-foo” gyms the rest of us go to…[/quote]
That actually happened at the 24 Hour Fitness in Texas. If you wanted clarification, just ask. I didn’t say that was at my gym. Have a great day.
Harp?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
TeeVee69 wrote:
And since you keep harping on it, WTF is the deal with your “hardcore” gym that allows letting the newbies get away with sandwiching the 10s and 25s under the 45s? I thought crap like that happens only in the “foo-foo” gyms the rest of us go to…
That actually happened at the 24 Hour Fitness in Texas. If you wanted clarification, just ask. I didn’t say that was at my gym. Have a great day.
Harp?[/quote]
Ok, so let me ask you: when you’re at the 24 Hour Fitness in Texas, do you leave the squat rack loaded with the 45s after you’re done?
[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
After you use your penis to go to the bathroom, you put it away. [/quote]
Oopps! LOL
[quote]TeeVee69 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
TeeVee69 wrote:
And since you keep harping on it, WTF is the deal with your “hardcore” gym that allows letting the newbies get away with sandwiching the 10s and 25s under the 45s? I thought crap like that happens only in the “foo-foo” gyms the rest of us go to…
That actually happened at the 24 Hour Fitness in Texas. If you wanted clarification, just ask. I didn’t say that was at my gym. Have a great day.
Harp?
Ok, so let me ask you: when you’re at the 24 Hour Fitness in Texas, do you leave the squat rack loaded with the 45s after you’re done?[/quote]
Sometimes, yes. It usually had weight on it to begin with so I leave it the way I found it. Very rarely do I walk into the gym and find that every weight is placed in its perfect position. I am not the type to leave dumbbells lying around. I also wouldn’t leave 20 plates on the leg press machine after I get done. Is there anything else about my life you would like to know?
Face it, many here seem to agree that it is not a big deal. Unless someone is simply leaving a machine stacked with plates, deal with it. The tantrum you seem to be throwing at people who leave one plate on each side of the bar in a squat rack seems over the top. Let it go. Most skinny dudes and newbies wouldn’t be caught dead in a squat rack…unless they were curling with poor form in one. They are too busy doing preacher curls and bench press everyday of the week. At the gym I trained at, generally anyone who even used the squat rack (of which there were three) could also do more than one plate a side. No one complained for the years I trained there and I knew most of the members, especially the times I trained (I used to also be a personal trainer there). Generally it was accepted as helping the next person so they didn’t have to search for those initial plates.
You have a problem with that. I don’t and won’t ever have a problem with it. Doesn’t that just piss you off?
I also remember when it was my job to put plates back. It wasn’t an issue then either. As long as they didn’t leave the area in complete disorder, like those who leave 4 sets of dumbbells on the floor by their bench, there was no issue. Please direct any further questions to my ass.
If I want to use the power rack, squat rack, bench, etc. and the bar is loaded with no one around I have to wait to see if someone comes back from the bathroom, supersetting, whatever or some eejit was just too lazy and inconsiderate to bother stripping it.
I agree with bigvook. It is just common courtesy to remove the weights. You have no idea what position the want the bar in and at what weight they are going to start at.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
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You have a problem with that. I don’t and won’t ever have a problem with it. Doesn’t that just piss you off?
I also remember when it was my job to put plates back. It wasn’t an issue then either. As long as they didn’t leave the area in complete disorder, like those who leave 4 sets of dumbbells on the floor by their bench, there was no issue. Please direct any further questions to my ass.[/quote]
Damn, and you say I’m pissed off? Relax dude. I’m nowhere near as po’d as you seem to be. Seems like you have the bigger problem trying to justify your obvious lack of common courtesy. But whatever…
I asked only because your answers seemed inconsistent and pretty hypocritical. And you did say in your last post if I wanted clarification to just ask, right?
But honestly, I couldn’t care less about your personal life or your gym habits. Really. But thanks for putting up with my inquisitiveness.