If any of you ignorant aholes who leave plates on the bar lifted at my gym, I would throw you out. Common courtesy would expect you to put things back. I have spent quite a bit of time putting weights back, because all you tough guys who think you are so manly and strong are really just masking your childlike behaviour. I have been a round quite a number of world ranked powerlifters who are secure with their manhood and always clean up after themselves, they even run the sweeper after using baby powder for deads or chalk for back and hands. So quit bitching and put your weights back. Oh don’t forget you were one of those weak people or a newbie at one point too.
The only effective cure for poor gym etiquette is to build your own gym. If you don’t have room then maybe your buddy down the street does. Maybe you could rent a storage unit.
People are people, if you join a gym then you should know before hand that some people will not clean up after themselves thereby forcing you to do it (if you want to use that equipment).
If I don’t unload the bar and re rack my weights I will abruptly kick myself out of my gym, but not before I turn off the Michael Bolton CD and take off my gloves.
Rock on !!!
I’m tall, at least taller than most people at my gym. If I’m going to squat and someone left the plates on, I have to unload them, raise the bar, the put them back. Just re-rack your damn weights!
[quote]mejho wrote:
If any of you ignorant aholes who leave plates on the bar lifted at my gym, I would throw you out. Common courtesy would expect you to put things back.
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Yeah. Having the power to revoke memberships is awesome. Since the a*holes come in gangs, you throw one of them out, and it is just a question of time before their buddies stop coming. But since they are few, but felt, minority, it won’t impact your bottom line that much.
Could we go on to say that ultimately the ‘plates problem’ responsibility is to the gym owners, in all cases? If the $$ is more important to him than enforcing gym etiquette, there’s no much one can do except stop caring about the issue or going somewhere else.
People mention “hardcore gyms”.
If that means: be ignorant, make life a sod for everyone else, and leave weights on that interferes with other people in the gym, then “hardcore” i dont want.
I train at a supposedly “hardcore gym”.
I spend less time taliking ALL DAY than some of these guys do in their 2 hrs or whatever in the gym.
I know people who train harder in a “commercial” gym.
ANY GYM can be hardcore, as long as your training is as such. Its not about what it looks like, or the fact that other people there train hard. Its the fact that you train hard, and solely you. Obey the rules as this is for everyones safety. Its what YOU make of it, not what is the general concencus.
The rest is just fluff.
[quote]DAN C wrote:
mejho wrote:
If any of you ignorant aholes who leave plates on the bar lifted at my gym, I would throw you out. Common courtesy would expect you to put things back.
Yeah. Having the power to revoke memberships is awesome. Since the a*holes come in gangs, you throw one of them out, and it is just a question of time before their buddies stop coming. But since they are few, but felt, minority, it won’t impact your bottom line that much.
Could we go on to say that ultimately the ‘plates problem’ responsibility is to the gym owners, in all cases? If the $$ is more important to him than enforcing gym etiquette, there’s no much one can do except stop caring about the issue or going somewhere else.
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They have to be concerned with the dollars, or no gym. They have to be viable, but i agree that some guidence comes from the top (see above post)
[quote]miniross wrote:
People mention “hardcore gyms”.
If that means: be ignorant, make life a sod for everyone else, and leave weights on that interferes with other people in the gym, then “hardcore” i dont want.
I train at a supposedly “hardcore gym”.
I spend less time taliking ALL DAY than some of these guys do in their 2 hrs or whatever in the gym.
I know people who train harder in a “commercial” gym.
ANY GYM can be hardcore, as long as your training is as such. Its not about what it looks like, or the fact that other people there train hard. Its the fact that you train hard, and solely you. Obey the rules as this is for everyones safety. Its what YOU make of it, not what is the general concencus.
The rest is just fluff.[/quote]
I disagree with this. Your gym can be affected by the kinds of people who go there. It isn’t just about you at all times. I personally would rather train around people who are more serious than the average 140lbs kid who is jumping on the treadmill. I don’t walk around talking to people though so it isn’t like I need someone else to motivate me. It is all about atmosphere.
I will probably focus better if Celine Dione is not on the air waves, there aren’t 30 ambiguous guys milling around wearing leg warmers and dancing to Celione Dione, there are actually a few squat racks instead of a sign that reads, “No Chalk and No yelling”, and people aren’t looking at me funny for actually lifting heavy weight. Anyone who says the environment doesn’t affect them at all has never been to the “Q” gym.
I am not sure if they are even still in business, but the “Q”, a branch off from Presidents and First Lady, would not allow tank tops. This was because big muscles could intimidate the out of shape people. They would sell you a tee shirt if you didn’t bring one that covered you up well enough. Of course the tee shirt could also double as a comforter, but hey, who cares…because YOU’RE FOCUSED, right? There were no squat racks, no deadlift platform, no T-Bar row platform and I do believe you lost a finger if you actually grabbed an Olympic bar and placed it in the corner as a substitute. I trained there one day…well, half a day. I walked in, spent about 10 minutes allowing my mind to accept that what I was seeing was real, allowed the apples and cinnamon air freshner to dissipate and left.
As far as your first comment, if no one else has a problem with it, there is no problem with it.
After reading through this entire post I have to say that I’m am not only disappointed but very surprised that folks on this site would actually defend not stripping the bar. Not only is this a breach of gym etiquette, but it is this kind of attitude that can turn people off about lifting in general. How quick are you to criticise those who shy away from the squat rack in favor of doing endless leg extensions and leg curls? This especially applies to women. Maybe he/she has considered trying to learn to squat but everytime he/she looks over there some dickweed has left the bar loaded. Everyone was a neophyte at sometime, and we old timers should know better. You leave the bar loaded at my gym, chances are I’m gonna say something to ya.
The gym is a community where we all need to follow rules to get along and make it work. Here are my top five:
- Put your weights away or strip the bar.
- If you are filling a bottle at the water fountain, stop and step aside for those folks who need a quick sip of water between sets.
- Never, ever, offer unsolicited lifting advice unless you know the person extremly well (I don’t care if you are a personal trainer).
- Always use collars.
- If I have my headphones on, that means I don’t want to hear what you have to say.
[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
After you use your penis to go to the bathroom, you put it away. [/quote]
And that should be enough for women to know that men are indeed capable creatures
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
HouseOfAtlas wrote:
After you use your penis to go to the bathroom, you put it away.
And that should be enough for women to know that men are indeed capable creatures[/quote]
nonsense. If you leave it out it gets cold.
Simple preservation.
[quote]Joe Weider wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
HouseOfAtlas wrote:
After you use your penis to go to the bathroom, you put it away.
And that should be enough for women to know that men are indeed capable creatures
nonsense. If you leave it out it gets cold.
Simple preservation.[/quote]
Muahahahahahaha!
I workout at Bally’s, or as I like to refer to it as “Satan’s Asshole.” There is always dumbbells all over the floor, you definitely have to watch your step around the dumbbell rack or you will bite it, hard. There’s always plates left on the bars, you guys would have nightmares. But other than that its an okay place to lift as long as you have superb peripheral vision.
What pisses me off…is the commercial gym where I train…Lifetime Fitness in Chicago…the frigg’n trainers won’t even put the weights away.
They put crap on whatever machine or bench…work the person through 1-2 sets…and walk away. “I’m a frigg’n trainer…I don’t have time to put weights away.” F*&? you!
Yet they want to promote putting your weights away. Lead by example…
I hope one of them read this…I’ll be more than happy to introduce myself to make my point.
On what Professor X wrote:
I always used to think i couldn’t train at home. bollocks. It was different, granted. But once into it i was fine. I like the variation, it allows (by enforcing) me to do different exercises (sandbags/b/w). And before you ask i weigh just shy of 218, so no skinny here.
[quote]mindeffer01 wrote:
pomofo,
have you ever heard of the modulus of elasticity? It is a graphic depiction of a materials elastic behaviors under stress until breaking. So unless the metal that the bar is made of is very soft or stretched past point ab and to the point of permanent elongation/compression, it will not “warp”.
Unles you using a gold bar or something.
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I think the key here is the quality of the bar. Most bars that I’ve seen in gyms are of cheap quality, made from weak steel. After being pounded into squat racks and dropped on pins all day can you really say it’s not detrimental to the bar to leave weights racked on it?
[quote]miniross wrote:
On what Professor X wrote:
I always used to think i couldn’t train at home. bollocks. It was different, granted. But once into it i was fine. I like the variation, it allows (by enforcing) me to do different exercises (sandbags/b/w). And before you ask i weigh just shy of 218, so no skinny here.[/quote]
Eventually, the plan is to have a very decent home gym…however, that will probably be after I actually buy a “home”. Considering the weight I move and the fact that I really like Hammer Strength equipment, the gym just makes more sense for right now. I started by training at home. There was no other choice. This is probably why I made such little progress early on, considering those 25lbs Target brand screw on weights weren’t exactly going to be building 20" arms. Thank Gawd for the YMCA gym.
[quote]randman wrote:
Moe,
Some say I have a disturbing avatar but I would have to say the same about yours. What the hell is that fat dude doing? Licking his own nipple?[/quote]
HEHHEHE!, thats the old me when I used to read Muscle Mag…
nah its Peter Griffin from Family Guy, thats one wicked show…!