Ah geez…that’s insane.
I think if you focused on building up your traps for awhile, you’d look even more insane.
[quote]Foxen wrote:
anthropocentric wrote:
"If I did have a written routine, I would prefer not to write it down as I would not recommend it to most individuals, if anyone. My workouts are roughly three hours long(for one muscle group) and would be severe overtraining for most people. All I can say is that I must be wired differently than most, because I get good results from training the way I do."
-Aaron Clark, Teen Amateur Bodybuilder of the Week
http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/teenam.htm
And then compare his pics to the other Teen Amateur Bodybuilders of the Week and the winner is…not natural.[/quote]
I don’t know prisoner looks impressive to me
yea he destroys every other teen bodybuilder on there. the kid is fucking huge, theres no questioning that.
stop bitching, you haters are clearly seething red with jealousy
Most of the “haters” on here are to an extent jealous, REGARDLESS of their level of development and experience…Fact.
This IS a juiced physique and that is also FACT.
Blaming his clavicular width (and ragging on his height!!! of all things) on his stunting his growth by injecting too early is childish and reeks of…well, the usual.
I venture to say Franco and Shawn Ray would dominate anyone posting on this forum in an untested show, regardlessof their stature or lack thereof.
The kid is 180 shredded on 5’7" and looks dense, so he probably looks big in everyday life, but it is very clear:
- His V-taper is not sufficient for an untested show, but there is much he can do to improve that with the right protocol. I believe one of the IFBB pros used a DC routine to GREATLY improve his lat width at an advanced stage - the so-called landing strip development.
(EDIT:: It was David Henry.) - He has good leg development and near-decent arm size but needs work on the biceps.
- It is VERY VERY obvious he does not do weighted ab work from the way his abs don’t pop out.
Is he going places? Too early to tell…he is big and ripped with obvious weak areas and structural flaws so no once can figure out how he’ll fare on the stage. But if his aim is just to be big, strong, ripped and look good enough to pull plenty of ass while holding down a day job (most members of this site I venture to say), he has arrived at his goal, optimally or not.
[quote]Standard Donkey wrote:
stop bitching, you haters are clearly seething red with jealousy[/quote]
Facts are the kid is JACKED. He looks as good if not better than any and everyone who’s posted in his thread.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Facts are the kid is JACKED. He looks as good if not better than any and everyone who’s posted in his thread. [/quote]
yeah…um ima have to say no to that. Pris22 has in fact posted in this thread.
[quote]UkpairehMombooto wrote:
Most of the “haters” on here are to an extent jealous, REGARDLESS of their level of development and experience…Fact.
This IS a juiced physique and that is also FACT.
Blaming his clavicular width (and ragging on his height!!! of all things) on his stunting his growth by injecting too early is childish and reeks of…well, the usual.
I venture to say Franco and Shawn Ray would dominate anyone posting on this forum in an untested show, regardlessof their stature or lack thereof.
The kid is 180 shredded on 5’7" and looks dense, so he probably looks big in everyday life, but it is very clear:
- His V-taper is not sufficient for an untested show, but there is much he can do to improve that with the right protocol. I believe one of the IFBB pros used a DC routine to GREATLY improve his lat width at an advanced stage - the so-called landing strip development.
(EDIT:: It was David Henry.) - He has good leg development and near-decent arm size but needs work on the biceps.
- It is VERY VERY obvious he does not do weighted ab work from the way his abs don’t pop out.
Is he going places? Too early to tell…he is big and ripped with obvious weak areas and structural flaws so no once can figure out how he’ll fare on the stage. But if his aim is just to be big, strong, ripped and look good enough to pull plenty of ass while holding down a day job (most members of this site I venture to say), he has arrived at his goal, optimally or not.
Standard Donkey wrote:
stop bitching, you haters are clearly seething red with jealousy
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well your post smells of too much reading musclemag. You obviously lack the experience of being a competitive Bodybuilder. Franco was known for having ‘wings’ very impressive lat developement, but he did have the bone structure for it. And Trying to compare this kid’s bone structure to him or Shaun Ray - a guy who should have won the Olympia at least once is moronic.
Narrow clavical width is what it is. And obviously you know nothing about bone structure/ frame and how important it is in building a physique. Either you have it or you don’t. Not only can this kid not develope a wide back, he will never be able to develope a large wide chest/ broad shoulder look for the same reasons. I have seen this before.
This isn’t jeolousy - just look at my physique. I’m a national competitior, who could some day attain pro status - I just need to put on more size. He could never. I am just calling it as I see it - an intelligent critique take from years of experience in the sport.
And btw, I didn’t do AAS untill I was 26 1/2 years old. If I had to do it over again, I probably would have started at 19 like him, as I would be a pro by now, so I have no problem with him doing juice.
Hell when I was that young I used to follow Arnold’s encyclopedia religiously, and wonder why I wasn’t growing like Arnold. Only years later did I find out that he was also swallowing handfulls of Dbol as early as 15 years old.
The only problem I had with this guy, and what others had with this guy is that he was on here denying he used anything - trying to imply he was natural, and when that didn’t go over so well he then minimized his use saying he did a few bottles of PH. B.S! he was full blown juicing it.
That’s were all the Hate came from
Enough said.
wow teenbody building winners is a pedos dream come true, and you are right that nobody comes close which shows he isnt natural but that being said he is massive so nice work.
[quote]Prisoner wrote:
well your post smells of too much reading musclemag. [/quote]
Really? Do tell, Monsieur E.
I didn’t compare the two. I said you were wrong to rag on the kid’s height as inadequate for being on stage and then allege that he somehow fucked that up by juicing at an early age when his genetics could well be responsible for his not being over 6 feet or whatever you consider minimum to offset your own insecurities.
[quote]
Narrow clavical width is what it is. And obviously you know nothing about bone structure/ frame and how important it is in building a physique. Either you have it or you don’t. Not only can this kid not develope a wide back, he will never be able to develope a large wide chest/ broad shoulder look for the same reasons. I have seen tjis before. [/quote]
And if you took the time to read my post I mentioned he had obvious structural flaws so we could not determine how he would do on stage. Once again, I have NO frickin idea why you keep bringing up his structural flaws and rationalize your doing that by linking it with his juicing at an early age.
Jason, I see a good-looking kid with several years worth of muscular development in good symmetry (but who has a weirdly shaped abdominal region (possibly the result of a surgery)) who moved from the exciting career of male exotic dancing to adjudicator of physique development and steroid expert with a HUGE chip on his shoulders…though I could be wrong.
Just joking…I realize you are a successful competitor who has a wealth of information to share with the aspiring bodybuilders on this site. How is that even relevant? Though your frequent quoting of your own stats does smack of something else…
too bad I can’t remind you about who the fuck I really am! but who cares.
And here I was thinking you were insecure,…how wrong we all are.
TRue. Your wealth of experience combined with years of lifting and being worshipped on this forum have led you to rail against a young man who never professed to having a better physique than you do. So he juiced, he never said he was taking the NPC by storm in 10 years, he stayed humble throughout and patiently answered questions and doubts without answering back. What were you trying to achieve by pointing out his inadequacies compared to yourself?
I don;t understand why you should ever have an issue with a random person doing AAS over the age of 18 anyway. Its his body and he has made the decision.
In any case it is obvious he juiced from all the evidence, most people in the know could tell but kept silent about it since it did not affect them one way or the other.
Not quite…your paragraph about your following Arnold’s encyclopedia with your general background make it clear where the hate comes from.
YOU have a stellar physique that is out of reach for the mere mortals on this site and you take any lapse of integrity by a random teenager as a personal attack on your principles and achievements. Thts all you have made clear thus far.
IF you want to continue this discussion PM me. I mentioned several posts back that I will not waste space on this thread and its time I honored that.
All I will add is…JASON…KID!!! I remember you from the first time you posted here. You have come a long way. I have been around long before Montana and Poliquin started working for the magazine, even before the time of Duchaine and you are merely one of many whose achievements went to their heads. Thats all 
To the rest of y’all…sorry about the hijack.
Did anyone see him on bodybuilding.com this week?
http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/teenam.htm
That’s him right? Funny it doesn’t mention that he takes anything besides some creatine and whey.
Longest Rate My Physique Thread ever…
Anyone who lifts knows that that kind of muscle development is not possible in 2 years w/o massive Juice. Not hatting but saying you never Juiced and just did Pro-horomones is BS.
Still takes a lot of work in the gym and props for that.
Juice/no Juice 8 for the effort
[quote]Prisoner wrote:
Hell when I was that young I used to follow Arnold’s encyclopedia religiously, and wonder why I wasn’t growing like Arnold. Only years later did I find out that he was also swallowing handfulls of Dbol as early as 15 years old.
[/quote]
Are you saying Arnold used Dbol at that early age? Can you tell me where you found that information?
[quote]ty45 wrote:
Prisoner wrote:
Hell when I was that young I used to follow Arnold’s encyclopedia religiously, and wonder why I wasn’t growing like Arnold. Only years later did I find out that he was also swallowing handfulls of Dbol as early as 15 years old.
Are you saying Arnold used Dbol at that early age? Can you tell me where you found that information?[/quote]
I’ve heard he was prescribed roids by his doctor as early as thirteen because he was small as a child but he was definetly using them in his late teens. it was on MD radio
Will this thread ever die?
in arnold’s bodybuildig encyclopedia(the newest edition) there are pics of him at 16 pg 571 he has decent size then there is a pic of him at 19 on pg 387 his body just exploded in size (and yes i’m really bored right now)
I am not well educated on steroids at all but weren’t roids back then non-anabolic?
[quote]ty45 wrote:
I am not well educated on steroids at all but weren’t roids back then non-anabolic?[/quote]
haha what?
[quote]Standard Donkey wrote:
ty45 wrote:
I am not well educated on steroids at all but weren’t roids back then non-anabolic?
haha what?
[/quote]
lol forgive my ignorance, steroids aren’t something I really want to get into but I was told by my uncle (a steroid user) that roids back in the 60’s and 70’s weren’t anabolic…
[quote]ty45 wrote:
Prisoner wrote:
Hell when I was that young I used to follow Arnold’s encyclopedia religiously, and wonder why I wasn’t growing like Arnold. Only years later did I find out that he was also swallowing handfulls of Dbol as early as 15 years old.
Are you saying Arnold used Dbol at that early age? Can you tell me where you found that information?[/quote]
It was in his ‘unauthorized biography’ Can’t remember the name of who wrote it, but it was an ex friend of his - a photographer.