[quote]UkpairehMombooto wrote:
Prisoner wrote:
well your post smells of too much reading musclemag.
Really? Do tell, Monsieur E.
You obviously lack the experience of being a competitive Bodybuilder. Franco was known for having ‘wings’ very impressive lat developement, but he did have the bone structure for it. And Trying to compare this kid’s bone structure to him or Shaun Ray - a guy who should have won the Olympia at least once is moronic.
I didn’t compare the two. I said you were wrong to rag on the kid’s height as inadequate for being on stage and then allege that he somehow fucked that up by juicing at an early age when his genetics could well be responsible for his not being over 6 feet or whatever you consider minimum to offset your own insecurities.
Narrow clavical width is what it is. And obviously you know nothing about bone structure/ frame and how important it is in building a physique. Either you have it or you don’t. Not only can this kid not develope a wide back, he will never be able to develope a large wide chest/ broad shoulder look for the same reasons. I have seen tjis before.
And if you took the time to read my post I mentioned he had obvious structural flaws so we could not determine how he would do on stage. Once again, I have NO frickin idea why you keep bringing up his structural flaws and rationalize your doing that by linking it with his juicing at an early age.
This isn’t jeolousy - just look at my physique.
Jason, I see a good-looking kid with several years worth of muscular development in good symmetry (but who has a weirdly shaped abdominal region (possibly the result of a surgery)) who moved from the exciting career of male exotic dancing to adjudicator of physique development and steroid expert with a HUGE chip on his shoulders…though I could be wrong.
Just joking…I realize you are a successful competitor who has a wealth of information to share with the aspiring bodybuilders on this site. How is that even relevant? Though your frequent quoting of your own stats does smack of something else…
too bad I can’t remind you about who the fuck I really am! but who cares.
I’m a national competitior, who could some day attain pro status - I just need to put on more size. He could never.
And here I was thinking you were insecure,…how wrong we all are.
I am just calling it as I see it - an intelligent critique take from years of experience in the sport.
TRue. Your wealth of experience combined with years of lifting and being worshipped on this forum have led you to rail against a young man who never professed to having a better physique than you do. So he juiced, he never said he was taking the NPC by storm in 10 years, he stayed humble throughout and patiently answered questions and doubts without answering back. What were you trying to achieve by pointing out his inadequacies compared to yourself?
And btw, I didn’t do AAS untill I was 26 1/2 years old. If I had to do it over again, I probably would have started at 19 like him, as I would be a pro by now, so I have no problem with him doing juice.
I don;t understand why you should ever have an issue with a random person doing AAS over the age of 18 anyway. Its his body and he has made the decision.
Hell when I was that young I used to follow Arnold’s encyclopedia religiously, and wonder why I wasn’t growing like Arnold. Only years later did I find out that he was also swallowing handfulls of Dbol as early as 15 years old.
The only problem I had with this guy, and what others had with this guy is that he was on here denying he used anything - trying to imply he was natural, and when that didn’t go over so well he then minimized his urse saying he did a few bottles of PH. B.S! he was full blown juicing it.
In any case it is obvious he juiced from all the evidence, most people in the know could tell but kept silent about it since it did not affect them one way or the other.
That’s were all the Hate came from
Not quite…your paragraph about your following Arnold’s encyclopedia with your general background make it clear where the hate comes from.
YOU have a stellar physique that is out of reach for the mere mortals on this site and you take any lapse of integrity by a random teenager as a personal attack on your principles and achievements. Thts all you have made clear thus far.
IF you want to continue this discussion PM me. I mentioned several posts back that I will not waste space on this thread and its time I honored that.
All I will add is…JASON…KID!!! I remember you from the first time you posted here. You have come a long way. I have been around long before Montana and Poliquin started working for the magazine, even before the time of Duchaine and you are merely one of many whose achievements went to their heads. Thats all 
To the rest of y’all…sorry about the hijack.
Enough said.
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all that ‘eye opening information’ you posted has already been posted by myself on the open boards and in my profile.
The 2006 competitition thread talked about my missing rib, I have openly stated that I used to be a Male Dancer - quite proud of it, never regret the 8 years I spent doing it and in fact there are old ‘promo pics’ in my profile. It put me through school - I even turned down International modeling opportuinities in favor of dancing instead. Also there are before and after shots of what I looked like years ago. Big deal it’s where you’re going that counts, not where you have been. And as for using my real name that’s cool too.
And yeah, I have an ego, most people do have some pride in what they have accomplished. I have worked very hard for everything -nothing has been handed to me. So don’t worry, I am not upset with you pointing out my flaws. I know my own flaws better than anyone else - A good bodybuilder and someone who is focused on self-improvement has to realize their flaws in order to improve.
The anger at this kid if you can call that is not based on jeolousy, it is more of a difference in ethics than anything.
The same reason I would be pissed at someone who was juiced for example and went clean to compete in a natural show against guys who have always been clean. Just plain ethics.
I could have juiced when I was younger but I chose not to. I certainly didn’t come on the steriod forums insinuating being clean most of the time and when that didn’t work, vastly understating my use of AAS. Then, basking in the glow of all this adoration - someone had to cut him back down to size - it was an ethical consideration, not jeolousy.
lol.