[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
stronghold you are so nieve lol. You’re telling me that most of the guys arent using AAS in an untested national show? yah ok . . Btw since you obviously havent read the thread, I earlier congratulated him on his progress, go have a look if you don’t believe me. have you seriously not been around the game long enough to realize when someone is juiced and when someone is not? Most of the time it’s pretty obvious. This is one of those cases.
I think maybe you are butt hurt b/c you want to believe he is natural so you can one day look like him while staying natural. I think You are using this thread to try and convince yourself of that.[/quote]
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
stronghold you are so nieve lol. You’re telling me that most of the guys arent using AAS in an untested national show? yah ok . . Btw since you obviously havent read the thread, I earlier congratulated him on his progress, go have a look if you don’t believe me. have you seriously not been around the game long enough to realize when someone is juiced and when someone is not? Most of the time it’s pretty obvious. This is one of those cases.
I think maybe you are butt hurt b/c you want to believe he is natural so you can one day look like him while staying natural. I think You are using this thread to try and convince yourself of that.[/quote]
National TEEN show. Yeah, I believe that some of those guys are natty. I also believe that this guy is telling the truth when he says he has only used some PH’s.
I am naive because I am defending a friend of mine? YOU are the one making accusations and refusing to give credit. That makes YOU the one with the issue.
Been around the game long enough? Arent you a college student? That makes you a little young to go around acting like anyone’s daddy.
Wow you’re dumb if you think that about an untested show, especially on the national stage. I told you before, I gave him credit lol. I understand that you are sticking up for your friend but please don’t misunderstand me. I am not taking any credit away from him at all, I just don’t like when when people lie about how they got thier results. You are in the extreme minority with your opinion but thats ok I guess since you obviously aren’t going to change your mind. I’d say around 85%+ have said on this thread he has used AAS, some of whom are accomplished bodybuilders, but of course you know best.
But use common sense and show me one other person who has used “2-3 bottles of ph at low doses” and looks like this guy. He looks better a lot of natural pro’s who have been working out for 10+ years, and you want me to believe that he has accomplished that in 2 1/2 years? No ones genetics are that good.
Flex Wheeler is a pro bodybuilder who is credited for having extremely good genetics. Yes he has done very well but please go look at his competition and tell me if he completely blows them out of the water. He doesn’t.
There is no way possible that 2-3 bottles of ph can produce these kind of results, to believe otherwise is just foolish. It’s obvious that since he is your friend you will continue to avidly defend him and while I respect your loyalty, I do not respect your intelligence in this matter. Blind faith. . .
20 pages into it and people are still arguing about pro-hormone usage when this shit was settled openly on PAGE TWO.
People asked if he was natural and he said no and here is exactly what i used and about how much. So everyone responds NO WAY YOU’RE A LIAR because a bodybuilder that everybody looks up to said the OP has short collar bones.
so in 2 years you gained 65 pounds naturally come on. dude look at you back it is covered in acne i know alot of kids on that shit and their backs look the same
had to finally join after reading this guys thread.
If you believe this kid got like that off 2-3 bottles of crap pro hormones then you don’t know shit.
He’s juiced!end of story.B/S if ever i saw it.
i was thinking he could be natural except when someone found hes posted new pictures, gotten bigger and hasnt put on any fat. you cant make gains like that without putting some body fat first, its impossible unless…well you know.
[quote]mr natural wrote:
had to finally join after reading this guys thread.
If you believe this kid got like that off 2-3 bottles of crap pro hormones then you don’t know shit.
He’s juiced!end of story.B/S if ever i saw it.[/quote]
Amen. This kids crazy. He’s got some issues since he’s pumping 'roids at such a young age. I think guys like this have some self-image problems and are obsessed with being big. That’s the only reason I can see someone doing this so irresponsibly.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i was thinking he could be natural except when someone found hes posted new pictures, gotten bigger and hasnt put on any fat. you cant make gains like that without putting some body fat first, its impossible unless…well you know.[/quote]
yeah, personaly i found it damn hard to make buggar all gains at his age,wasn’t till i hit 21-22 when i started making some allright natural gains as my natural levels of test must have gotten higher(sposedly we reach our peak mid 20’s) and my metabolism had slowed just enough to allow some decent muscle growth.
In your late teens generally the food hardly touches the sides as your metobolic rate is through the roof.
I’ve seen many kids come through my gym of the same age in the same boat as what i was and struggle to make decent consistant gains.
I’ve only seen one other young guy make the amazing changes like this guy over two years and he’s been on large doses for the whole 2 years without a break!
Hell i’ve been cycling for 2 years,decent doses many times above what a natural guy would produce,training hard and smart,doing the diet right with simular results to this guy.
i would never have got close to the same results of my training and diet without it.
[quote]mr natural wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i was thinking he could be natural except when someone found hes posted new pictures, gotten bigger and hasnt put on any fat. you cant make gains like that without putting some body fat first, its impossible unless…well you know.
yeah, personaly i found it damn hard to make buggar all gains at his age,wasn’t till i hit 21-22 when i started making some allright natural gains as my natural levels of test must have gotten higher(sposedly we reach our peak mid 20’s) and my metabolism had slowed just enough to allow some decent muscle growth.
In your late teens generally the food hardly touches the sides as your metobolic rate is through the roof.
I’ve seen many kids come through my gym of the same age in the same boat as what i was and struggle to make decent consistant gains.
I’ve only seen one other young guy make the amazing changes like this guy over two years and he’s been on large doses for the whole 2 years without a break!
Hell i’ve been cycling for 2 years,decent doses many times above what a natural guy would produce,training hard and smart,doing the diet right with simular results to this guy.
i would never have got close to the same results of my training and diet without it.
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"If I did have a written routine, I would prefer not to write it down as I would not recommend it to most individuals, if anyone. My workouts are roughly three hours long(for one muscle group) and would be severe overtraining for most people. All I can say is that I must be wired differently than most, because I get good results from training the way I do."
-Aaron Clark, Teen Amateur Bodybuilder of the Week
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
His new pics are pretty sick.
This guy will be going places when he comepetes.[/quote]
This guy like I said is going nowhere.
his physiqe is NOT that impressive… Trustme! All you have seen is cell phone shots taken in a toilet from up close.
From what I see he has absolutely no V-taper, and no clavical width to make a decent V-taper. His arms are small, granted they’ll get bigger over time, and he has decent legs, but all short people do.
[quote]anthropocentric wrote:
"If I did have a written routine, I would prefer not to write it down as I would not recommend it to most individuals, if anyone. My workouts are roughly three hours long(for one muscle group) and would be severe overtraining for most people. All I can say is that I must be wired differently than most, because I get good results from training the way I do."
-Aaron Clark, Teen Amateur Bodybuilder of the Week