Snap's Return to PLing?

[quote]kpsnap wrote:
KB swing intervals 30 sec on/30 sec off for 10 minutes

^^Wow. These were fun. Not 100% sure I am swinging right. I do a hip hinge, not a squat, and bring the KB to shoulder height only. And very little swinging effort with my arms Also, I need more weight next time. I will definitely do these again. Way better than treadmill intervals.

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Yep, hinge at the hips, don’t squat. Keep your chest up as opposed to bending forward too much when the bell passes between your legs (we sometimes coach new folks in KB class to keep their hand closer to their body when they throw it back between their legs…the “like you’re wiping yourself with TP” visual seems to help, lol).

Hope this helps a bit.

best of luck with your quest …hang in there the weight will drop…

What’s your weight at and what do you have to drop? You’re going to 48 right? At least you don’t have to drop to 47 :slight_smile:

So, I’m really getting interested in lifting in the USAPL raw competitions. Looks like the big dog is David Ricks in the 205 lbs weight class so he’d be the competition I would shoot for. I have some questions about the federation because I have heard or read about their strict rules.

Are the lifting bars overly stiff for squatting and deadlifting? Even if I break parallel with my squat do I have to go deeper because USAPL requires ass to heels squats? When you request attempt weights do they only use KG charts and do they have set numbers one must adhere to?

I live in Orlando, Florida and they have competitions not far from me which makes competing in this federation more appealing. I’m looking to begin with a meet sometime in the first few months of next year. How far in advance do I need to become a USAPL member before a meet? How much does it cost to become a USAPL member? Some of this information is hard to find on the site or impossible to find the way the site is set up.

I appreciate any answers you can provide.

[quote]gorillavanilla wrote:
So, I’m really getting interested in lifting in the USAPL raw competitions. Looks like the big dog is David Ricks in the 205 lbs weight class so he’d be the competition I would shoot for. I have some questions about the federation because I have heard or read about their strict rules.

Are the lifting bars overly stiff for squatting and deadlifting? Even if I break parallel with my squat do I have to go deeper because USAPL requires ass to heels squats? When you request attempt weights do they only use KG charts and do they have set numbers one must adhere to?

I live in Orlando, Florida and they have competitions not far from me which makes competing in this federation more appealing. I’m looking to begin with a meet sometime in the first few months of next year. How far in advance do I need to become a USAPL member before a meet? How much does it cost to become a USAPL member? Some of this information is hard to find on the site or impossible to find the way the site is set up.

I appreciate any answers you can provide.[/quote]

I am a big fan of USAPL. The strictness inherent in the federation appeals to me. It’s not a federation for everyone. But to me the strictness lends validity to the meet results.

You’re right. Dave Ricks is virtually unbeatable. But that shouldn’t stop you from competing. Be aware that the USAPL uses different weight classes based on whether the meet is state/local vs. national/international. So you’d enter at either 198 or 220 for a local/state meet. Entering a national/international USAPL meet (with the exception of Raw Nationals at this point) requires a qualifying total or an invite.

I’ve never had a problem with the bars at meets. I can find out more about bar specifics if you’re interested.

The question about squat depth is a tricky one. Judges are strict. Some in certain regions are notoriously strict. Squats have to be clearly breaking parallel with the hip crease BELOW the top of the knee. No offense intended, but many squats that pass in other federations would earn three reds in USAPL. It’s not uncommon for people to bomb out on the squat if they aren’t used to squatting to the prescribed depth. I always try to bury my opener so that the judges have no reason to throw a red light and aren’t given a reason to scrutinize my depth on second/third attempts.

Meet attempts must be submitted in kilos and must follow set weights (2.5 kilo increments beginning with 20 kilos). Exceptions are only given when attempting to break national/international records. Also, national/international records can only be broken at national/international meets, not state or local ones.

Orlando is a huge USAPL hub. Tons of meets in the area, many of national and international caliber. So you’re in a great area. You can join the federation on the day of whatever meet you enter. Just bring your checkbook. A one-year membership is $50 and good for one calendar year (expires December 31 regardless of when you sign up).

I hope this helps. I strongly encourage you to go watch a USAPL meet. It will give you a really good idea of how everything is run.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
What’s your weight at and what do you have to drop? You’re going to 48 right? At least you don’t have to drop to 47 :)[/quote]
Yes. I’m trying to drop to 48. I’m right about 52 right now. I’ll weigh Monday and see where I am. I can’t weigh daily or I start getting neurotic. Or more neurotic may be more accurate.

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]gorillavanilla wrote:
So, I’m really getting interested in lifting in the USAPL raw competitions. Looks like the big dog is David Ricks in the 205 lbs weight class so he’d be the competition I would shoot for. I have some questions about the federation because I have heard or read about their strict rules.

Are the lifting bars overly stiff for squatting and deadlifting? Even if I break parallel with my squat do I have to go deeper because USAPL requires ass to heels squats? When you request attempt weights do they only use KG charts and do they have set numbers one must adhere to?

I live in Orlando, Florida and they have competitions not far from me which makes competing in this federation more appealing. I’m looking to begin with a meet sometime in the first few months of next year. How far in advance do I need to become a USAPL member before a meet? How much does it cost to become a USAPL member? Some of this information is hard to find on the site or impossible to find the way the site is set up.

I appreciate any answers you can provide.[/quote]

I am a big fan of USAPL. The strictness inherent in the federation appeals to me. It’s not a federation for everyone. But to me the strictness lends validity to the meet results.

You’re right. Dave Ricks is virtually unbeatable. But that shouldn’t stop you from competing. Be aware that the USAPL uses different weight classes based on whether the meet is state/local vs. national/international. So you’d enter at either 198 or 220 for a local/state meet. Entering a national/international USAPL meet (with the exception of Raw Nationals at this point) requires a qualifying total or an invite.

I’ve never had a problem with the bars at meets. I can find out more about bar specifics if you’re interested.

The question about squat depth is a tricky one. Judges are strict. Some in certain regions are notoriously strict. Squats have to be clearly breaking parallel with the hip crease BELOW the top of the knee. No offense intended, but many squats that pass in other federations would earn three reds in USAPL. It’s not uncommon for people to bomb out on the squat if they aren’t used to squatting to the prescribed depth. I always try to bury my opener so that the judges have no reason to throw a red light and aren’t given a reason to scrutinize my depth on second/third attempts.

Meet attempts must be submitted in kilos and must follow set weights (2.5 kilo increments beginning with 20 kilos). Exceptions are only given when attempting to break national/international records. Also, national/international records can only be broken at national/international meets, not state or local ones.

Orlando is a huge USAPL hub. Tons of meets in the area, many of national and international caliber. So you’re in a great area. You can join the federation on the day of whatever meet you enter. Just bring your checkbook. A one-year membership is $50 and good for one calendar year (expires December 31 regardless of when you sign up).

I hope this helps. I strongly encourage you to go watch a USAPL meet. It will give you a really good idea of how everything is run.[/quote]

This is a good summary. Regarding depth, sometimes it’s down to individual refs and some are just pricks like they are in regular life.

We just had an open meet yesterday and I marshalled. I’ve been an OPA (Ontario Provincial IPF affiliate) referee for over 2 years. My advice is to become really familiar with the rules and required attire. Read the IPF technical rules http://www.powerlifting-ipf.com/fileadmin/data/Technical_Rules/2013_Technical_Rules_english.pdf to be clear. It covers reasons for disqualification of each lift and required attire. You don’t need to read the entire boring document since much of it pertains to world championships and weight calibrations etc.

Yesterday, like every meet I’ve done equipment check at there were a number of new lifters without the correct attire despite the fact that we make this information available on our website. Have knee socks, tighty whitey underpants (no boxer briefs or underwear with legs), t-shirts can’t be sleeveless, have pockets or printing/logos that aren’t a sponsor, club something to that effect. Supportive equipment must be manufacturer by one of the IPF dues paying companies. Bench shirts, squat suits, deadlift suits, knee wraps and wrist wraps must be made by Titan, Inzer or Metal. This link is to the approved manufacturer list www.powerlifting-ipf.com/51.html

Belts and singlets can be by any manufacturer but must fall within the specifications outlined in the rules. Knee sleeves must be by the above three or rehband.

I’m sure you know you need to know the rules. We always have rules meetings in the warm up room at open meets but people still don’t pay attention and wander around like lost cats.

My best recommendation is go to a meet and read the rules in the link attached.

Thanks for the info.

We had a tough time explaining to the younger crowd what tighty whitey’s were. I mentioned Tom Cruise in Risky Business dancing in his shirt and underwear. The woman doing equipment check with me laughed at how old I am. We now have a sample pair of underwear for display purposes.

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
What’s your weight at and what do you have to drop? You’re going to 48 right? At least you don’t have to drop to 47 :)[/quote]
Yes. I’m trying to drop to 48. I’m right about 52 right now. I’ll weigh Monday and see where I am. I can’t weigh daily or I start getting neurotic. Or more neurotic may be more accurate.[/quote]

If your weight bounces around day to day like mine, it would just drive you crazy.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
We now have a sample pair of underwear for display purposes.[/quote]
This is hysterical.

[quote]cavalier wrote:

If your weight bounces around day to day like mine, it would just drive you crazy.[/quote]
It does. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it.

Squats.

Here’s a set from today.

Really close on depth. Maybe shallow. Gotta work on that.

From this angle, they both looked good.

[quote]kpsnap wrote:

Really close on depth. Maybe shallow. Gotta work on that.

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Anything below legal is just showing off at a competition. :slight_smile:

When I threw, it all depended on the bar for the weight for height. If they had a fixed bar I’d skim it with each throw to save energy. If they had a high jump style bar that could be knocked down I’d launch it to the max each time. You know your fed, and how close you can skim.

You are looking good, like you could go deeper and heavier easily, not like your struggling. How’s the weight coming? You look really lean.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
From this angle, they both looked good.[/quote]
Bless you.

[quote]corrmhona wrote:
How’s the weight coming? You look really lean.

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113.5. Still got a ways to go.

Both squats looked great to me and most likely legal but you might want to go a 1/2 deeper just to make sure any nazi-strict judge doesn’t gig you for kicks.

Had a good training week.

Benched 113 in a shirt, which (although pathetic) is really good for me. With a pause no less.

Back to the Centurion for DLing. I don’t like that Velocity suit, although I get more pop outta the bottom with it. Doubled 225 (double BW for me) tonight. Singled 235. Trying a new DL approach where I don’t rip it off the floor but attempt a more fluid pull with a sustainable speed.

Weight isn’t budging. No worries. I feel really good eating so clean and so much protein. I think I’m building muscle. Or at least I prefer to delude myself that I am.

Well you are at a good weight already, so it takes a bit more to budge it. For me it can take 2 weeks and then bam, it’s like someone sucked the fat off of me. Although not now since there is a bit more of me to squeeze. You have 5 weeks now is it?

Your squats looked easy for you. You don’t stick or even imply that your squats aren’t coming up. YAY for you; that is awesome!

Squats yesterday did not go well. Tried to double 205 and failed on the second rep.

My son informed me that the squat record at his high school is 710. That is raw, of course. I had fun with that and can only imagine how high it was.

My pants are loose but the scale doesn’t move much. Tomorrow is bench. I had a really good session last week. So we’ll see how tomorrow pans out. Meet is three weeks from Saturday.

Any advice for someone who is cautiously looking into going to single ply lifting?