Smoking Pot and Doing Cardio

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
If you smoke caine, you a stupid motherfucker
Know around the hood as the schoolyard clucker.
Doing that crack with all the money you got
On your hands and knees searchin for a piece of rock.
Fienin for a hit, and you lookin for more
Done stole a Alpine out of six EZ’s four.
You need your ass whooped because its out of this earth,
Can’t get a 10 piece need a dollar fifty worth.

Knuckle head nigga you turned into a crook
but swear up and down that you aint hooked.
You beat your friend up and you whooped his ass long
Because he hit the pipe and now the rock is all gone.[/quote]

[quote]brauny96 wrote:
im thinkin coke would work better, youd be more energized. but what do I know?[/quote]
I have this saved from AGES ago from a poster here:

OK the use of C for fat loss purposes revolves around Cs ability to release both dopamine (which suppresses appetite) and more importantly, adrenaline and nor-adrenaline.

The nor adrenaline is a neurotransmitter that allows you to have a fast, focussed training session. Basically it increases arousal (by which I mean alertness, etc), although it does have psychoactive effects which is why you don’t want too much of this during a workout or you might run over and start humping one of the fitness bunnies lustily.

Adrenaline/epinephrine has a range of effects, from triggering fat mobilisation and utilisation, to vasodilation of skeletal muscle and the release of glucose into the bloodstream.

Now none of this is what you would call revolutionary, since adrenaline manipulation has been used for a long time with such chemicals as ephedrine, etc.

However personally, ephedrine does not work for fat loss. Instead of causing a release of adrenaline, it releases highly catabolic (to muscle tissue) cortisol instead, resulting in accelerated breakdown of muscle tissue, water retention and ultimately, central obesity.

Sure, adrenaline is highly catabolic too, but more so towards fatty tissue, in my experience.

Having said that, building muscle is all about getting more than adequate nutrients into a muscle, and the release of adrenaline from use of C will not permit that uptake of nutrients.

This is where ‘my’ protocol came into effect. You see it’s only 50% to do with the action of the drug, and 50% (or whatever %, lol) to do with the training strategy.

I feel this is important to highlight. You want to to total body exercise sessions that are not long lasting and DO NOT tear down muslce fiber. You cannot (to my mind) use the traditional cutting exercise routines of multiple sets, etc.

Basically, just enough to trigger the elevation of metabolism and increased energy demand of skeletal muscle, but not so much that you are forcing added muscle catabolism into an already catabolic (from the adrenaline) state.

So in practical terms this amounts to not much more than 45 minutes of relatively gentle interval training/bag work/ light resistance circuits.

Sure, the coke-fuelled aggression will drive you onwards, but this is where a kind of ‘reverse discipline’ is needed. You CANNOT tear down muscle AND use C and expect anything other than a clusterfuck. Lots of muscle and strength loss.

This is accentuated by the fact that once the exercise session is over, you are going to have a couple of further, little, C ‘bumps’ to continue the release of fatty acids, whilst you consume only protein and a little sugar (to prevent hypos).

So in summary, I guess it goes like this:

A little C (but not too much, to save your heart) pre, during and post training.

A little bit of muscle stimulation (but not too much, to save your prescious muscle).

A bit of energy systems work (but not too much, to prevent excessive catabolism)

A fair bit of protein and a little bit of glucose, pre, peri and post workout.

And in summary of the summary, I think it boils down to the fact that a reduced workout volume and a tiny bit of a highly illegal substance, can lead to amazing fat loss.


NEITHER THIS POSTER NOR I ADVISE ANYONE TO DO THIS PARTICULAR OPTION COCAINE IS ILLEGAL.

Thanking you.

I absolutely love running stoned… It expands your lungs and drives you to focus on your form.

[quote]shoobey wrote:
Alcohol has negative side effects, but if you smoke pot and then do cardio, does that negatively affect you?[/quote]

What the fuck is wrong with you? I can’t believe this shit is even being asked on here.

[quote]Mitchel wrote:
I don’t smoke weed anymore, but I do eat mushrooms. I eat psilocybe cubensis, an Amazonian strain, and only once in a while. I would say on average every 3 to 4 months. I have done activity while on shrooms, and it’s fantastic. Whether it’s running, sex, or yardwork… it’s great.

The thing is, most peoples’ opinion of drugs comes from conservative media, episodes of ‘Intervention’ on A&E, and the “just say no” fan club. They all remind me of the counselor in Southpark; “Drugs are bad, mmmKay.”

Truth is, very very few - if any - of those people have any experience with drugs besides what their parents told them, or seeing some single person abuse drugs. But, ANYTHING can be abused. I would say as far as health effects and social problems, ALCOHOL is far worse than marijuana or shrooms, both of which are natural by the way, as opposed to being fermented, distilled, or some other process. No one goes to rehab for marijuana abuse. I’ve never seen anyone on shrooms start a bar fight. They tend to be more peaceful, unlike the drunk who crashes his truck into his former bosses new Audi while tuning up his girlfriend’s face.

And as far as abusing things goes, even FOOD is abused worse (especially in the USA) than pot, shrooms, salvia, peyote, and things like that. Just look at 63% of the population. Think of the health risks of obesity, and how they far overshadow those of recreational drug use. I agree that the sythetic drugs are bad… but I do not agree that the natural drugs mentioned above are a platform to harder drugs or any of the other rhetoric spouted by those who don’t know any better.

Of course I can only speak for myself, but I have tried sythetics in the past, and didn’t like them. So I returned to the calmer high of weed - and later when the professional world prohibited that - mushrooms. And I don’t drink. We do get a physical periodically in the industry I work in (one every two years) and I’ve consistently checked out fine for 12 years now. My only health issue is about 4 lbs of adipose I would like to lose in my love handle area, but other than that I am strong and healthy and well built for a non-competetive man. And as a side note, I personally think that the recreational use (not abuse) of natural drugs has helped me be a more critical thinker, which has helped me professionally as well in troubleshooting / problem solving.

Each to his own of course, but I would really like to see people speak from direct experience rather than soundboarding anti-drug propoganda.[/quote]

I have enough experience with drugs to know damn well they are horrible for you especially considering the shit that I have seen happen to people. I also certainly have enough experience to know better than to advocate there use in anyway to anybody except maybe an enemy.

[quote]Kerley wrote:
sam_sneed wrote:
If you smoke caine, you a stupid motherfucker
Know around the hood as the schoolyard clucker.
Doing that crack with all the money you got
On your hands and knees searchin for a piece of rock.
Fienin for a hit, and you lookin for more
Done stole a Alpine out of six EZ’s four.
You need your ass whooped because its out of this earth,
Can’t get a 10 piece need a dollar fifty worth.

Knuckle head nigga you turned into a crook
but swear up and down that you aint hooked.
You beat your friend up and you whooped his ass long
Because he hit the pipe and now the rock is all gone.

[/quote]

What, not an NWA fan?

:wink:

I want to see these great physiques that these users have who do shit before and/or during workouts…

I bet they only have average or a little above average physiques.

Wow, you can really tell who blazes and who doesn’t.

I personally find that pot and cardio don’t work for me, pot and lifting… sometimes. I used to get blu-light acne treatment done on my back, and it would burn the skin for a few days, making it pretty painful to lift. I’d always blaze before I worked out then, because it really does help you forget the pain.

I know a lot of guys that do smoke before they workout, play rugby, and do cardio. And these are big guys that are good athletes. I think pot really affects people in different ways, and it takes a certain mental demenour to stay focused while high. Whether this is used to an advantage or disadvantage really relies on the person, and obviously for most it is clear that pot hinders their ability to focus physically.

I’m an old dude and I’ve smoked a ton of pot. Most of the time I don’t remember what I did, and when I do remember, I remember I didn’t do anything except look stupid.

I still enjoy a hit or two, but smoking pot to enhance a workout seems counterintuitive to me - all I wanna do is lay back and fantasise about my next door neighbor’s sweet looking ass!

[quote]WhistlingGypsy wrote:
This is isn’t advice but Seth Rogen said he hates working out so he gets baked before every workout. The man has lost 20-30 lbs.[/quote]

Yeah, cuz we all want to look like Seth Rogen. I want his work ethic too.

[quote]jw2437 wrote:
all I wanna do is lay back and fantasise about my next door neighbor’s sweet looking ass![/quote]

Finally someone who makes sense…

[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
WhistlingGypsy wrote:
This is isn’t advice but Seth Rogen said he hates working out so he gets baked before every workout. The man has lost 20-30 lbs.

Yeah, cuz we all want to look like Seth Rogen. I want his work ethic too.[/quote]

As, I said, that was NOT ADVICE. Should I have written it twice?

[quote]WhistlingGypsy wrote:
Sarev0k wrote:
WhistlingGypsy wrote:
This is isn’t advice but Seth Rogen said he hates working out so he gets baked before every workout. The man has lost 20-30 lbs.

Yeah, cuz we all want to look like Seth Rogen. I want his work ethic too.

As, I said, that was NOT ADVICE. Should I have written it twice?[/quote]

Yeah I know. Just ball busting I guess.

Not to hijack the thread, but im jsut sick of “regular comedians” these days. It’s all fucking “Bro” humor. Naked men, Fat Joints, and guys saying “Hey lemme see yer tits LAWL”.

Just fucking depressing.

Had a blunt with a friend before the work out today…best mind-muscle connection ever, I will now have another and work on my mouth-steak connection.

Could we please stop calling it pot, this isn’t the 40’s anymore lol. I’m a little mixed on the subject, in my experience smoking the ganja and working out is that I get a great mind-muscle connection…but I can’t lift as heavy. I just won’t set any PRs…now marijuana and caffeine is a different story.

The day before yesterday, I smoked a while before I went to workout and drank some coffee right before. So my high was on it’s way down and the caffeine was on it’s way up. Normally I get really jittery from a cup of coffee, but this time my demeanor was different. I had a much more calm, focused intensity and it was pretty sweet, had a good session.

So I’m going to try and recreate that feeling to see if it was just a fluke or my new pre-workout supplement stack…

Okay you guys convinced me.

Monday I’m trying this shit…

Yes it will affect your performance. Yes, there are more than a few athletes, BBDr’s etc that do it. Everyone’s different, personally I could think a more than a few alternatives that make more sense. Unless you just want to get baked that is. That’s called justification.
PS- do not drink tha Mc 40 before cardio

Who votes for a next thread named “Traning legs after fucking multiple broads”?

[quote]Mitchel wrote:
I don’t smoke weed anymore, but I do eat mushrooms. I eat psilocybe cubensis, an Amazonian strain, and only once in a while. I would say on average every 3 to 4 months. I have done activity while on shrooms, and it’s fantastic. Whether it’s running, sex, or yardwork… it’s great.

The thing is, most peoples’ opinion of drugs comes from conservative media, episodes of ‘Intervention’ on A&E, and the “just say no” fan club. They all remind me of the counselor in Southpark; “Drugs are bad, mmmKay.”

Truth is, very very few - if any - of those people have any experience with drugs besides what their parents told them, or seeing some single person abuse drugs. But, ANYTHING can be abused. I would say as far as health effects and social problems, ALCOHOL is far worse than marijuana or shrooms, both of which are natural by the way, as opposed to being fermented, distilled, or some other process. No one goes to rehab for marijuana abuse. I’ve never seen anyone on shrooms start a bar fight. They tend to be more peaceful, unlike the drunk who crashes his truck into his former bosses new Audi while tuning up his girlfriend’s face.

And as far as abusing things goes, even FOOD is abused worse (especially in the USA) than pot, shrooms, salvia, peyote, and things like that. Just look at 63% of the population. Think of the health risks of obesity, and how they far overshadow those of recreational drug use. I agree that the sythetic drugs are bad… but I do not agree that the natural drugs mentioned above are a platform to harder drugs or any of the other rhetoric spouted by those who don’t know any better.

Of course I can only speak for myself, but I have tried sythetics in the past, and didn’t like them. So I returned to the calmer high of weed - and later when the professional world prohibited that - mushrooms. And I don’t drink. We do get a physical periodically in the industry I work in (one every two years) and I’ve consistently checked out fine for 12 years now. My only health issue is about 4 lbs of adipose I would like to lose in my love handle area, but other than that I am strong and healthy and well built for a non-competetive man. And as a side note, I personally think that the recreational use (not abuse) of natural drugs has helped me be a more critical thinker, which has helped me professionally as well in troubleshooting / problem solving.

Each to his own of course, but I would really like to see people speak from direct experience rather than soundboarding anti-drug propoganda.[/quote]

I agree that the negative effects of soft drugs like pot are usually overstated, but the idea that something is healthy because it is natural doesn’t hold much weight IMO. Many of the most toxic substances on the planet are 100% natural.

IF U CAN DO CARDIO ON WEED YOU GOT SOME BAD SHIT LOL

xtc is the cardio drug