Smith Machine for Benching

[quote]AChoi wrote:
GeneralIx wrote:

Sentoguy wrote:
Sorry but you really should have chosen your words even more carefully. Your statement that “big is usually not the same as strong” is a complete misunderstanding, and one that seems to have become rampant in the fitness industry.

If bigger doesn’t equal stronger, then why are there weight classes in powerlifting/olympic lifting? Because the bigger (more muscular) guys are stronger than the smaller (less muscular) guys.

Perhaps you might want to go search the archives for an article titled “The Dave Tate Project”. That should give you an idea of the kind of muscle a lot of powerlifters are sporting under their insulation.

I know you’re just trying to argue your case, but seriously you’re only digging your hole deeper. The point others were trying to make is that anyone can read articles by experts and then regurgitate it back, that doesn’t imply true knowledge or wisdom about the subject. The real art is the application of that knowledge, which to be honest with only a year under your belt you simply don’t have enough experience to have mastered that art.

I realize that you were only trying to be helpful, which I don’t hold against you. But, your reaction to other more experienced guys trying to warn you to first get some considerable experience before you start giving advice to others is what I am addressing here.

Just one more thing before I raise my flag, strength is more of a cns issue than muscle. That is why bigger is not always stronger. (This was even more carefully chosen).
Raises the white flag. I’ll read a lot more then. Thanks for the reply.

What’s wrong with you? What’s with all this pseudointellectual crap? Just because you read articles on training does mean you are now an expert… powerlifters have less muscle than bodybuilders? Wow, how many times have powerlifters leaned out, entered bodybuilding shows and totally dominated? You make no sense.
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That attitude seems to almost have been accepted here. I am actually surprised so many are telling him that experience is important. Usually what I see is several newbies all ganging up to try to tell someone much larger than them that size doesn’t matter and that “relative strength” is of greater importance…which is why they weigh 140lbs.

There is a whole new kind of stupid in the statement:

[quote]GeneralIx wrote:
Also more experienced does not equal more knowledgeable. And therefore your argument is flawed. I know guys who’ve trained longer than me, are bigger than me, but know half of what I know.
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It is hilarious that some skinny newbie sees someone who has made that much more progress than them yet they assume they know more because they read some articles.

No one cares how many articles you’ve read. There should be a lot less importance placed on the act of even reading many of these articles especially as a beginner.

If you want real knowledge, go do the research yourself from many more resources AND PEOPLE than from this site.

[quote]skw wrote:
Not to be a doosh, but how many times has a PLer leaned out and dominated a BB contest? I’ve heard it written ancedotally that it could happen but I’ve never read about it actually happening.

I use a power rack at home. I wish the catch bars were about a half inch to one inch lower so I could get the a better ROM. The barbell hits the catches about a 1/2 inch above my chest. If I really arch my back I can just get the barbell to touch without the barbell hitting the safety bars. Oh well. That’s life.[/quote]

What difference does the number of times make? Dave Tate just leaned out last year.

Powerlifters in bodybuilding:
Ronnie Coleman
Ben White (the bench press as he never deadlifted and hates that movement)
Johnnie Jackson

Im a noob here, but will throw in my 2 cents.

Why not just go heavy with DBs? OR find someone in the gym to give you a spot.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
skw wrote:
Not to be a doosh, but how many times has a PLer leaned out and dominated a BB contest? I’ve heard it written ancedotally that it could happen but I’ve never read about it actually happening.

I use a power rack at home. I wish the catch bars were about a half inch to one inch lower so I could get the a better ROM. The barbell hits the catches about a 1/2 inch above my chest. If I really arch my back I can just get the barbell to touch without the barbell hitting the safety bars. Oh well. That’s life.

What difference does the number of times make? Dave Tate just leaned out last year.

Powerlifters in bodybuilding:
Ronnie Coleman
Ben White (the bench press as he never deadlifted and hates that movement)
Johnnie Jackson

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Most don’t know, but kevin levrone was first a powerifter, same as the guys X mentioned. Look at a guy like Ryan Kennelly, there is no pro on the olympia stage with triceps as massive as his.

[quote]skw wrote:
Not to be a doosh, but how many times has a PLer leaned out and dominated a BB contest? I’ve heard it written ancedotally that it could happen but I’ve never read about it actually happening.

I use a power rack at home. I wish the catch bars were about a half inch to one inch lower so I could get the a better ROM. The barbell hits the catches about a 1/2 inch above my chest. If I really arch my back I can just get the barbell to touch without the barbell hitting the safety bars. Oh well. That’s life.[/quote]

Put some pieces of wood under the feet of your bench. Damn, I knew that engineering degree would come in handy.

I can see why I’m an engineering school drop out. LOL. Thanks.

[quote]skw wrote:
I can see why I’m an engineering school drop out. LOL. Thanks.

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No trouble at all =] I was being amusingly helpful. I don’t have a degree.

[quote]skw wrote:
Not to be a doosh, but how many times has a PLer leaned out and dominated a BB contest? I’ve heard it written ancedotally that it could happen but I’ve never read about it actually happening.

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Off the top of my head?

Trey Brewer-absolutely BLEW AWAY everyone away with his raw size that you better believe is 90% from his powerlifting training and the incredible weights he used and the bodyweight he was holding to compete at
Andy Fielder-Dieted down for 2005 Mr. Minnesota and made a lot of bodybuilders(or is it bodyleaners?) take a second look at their approaches
Johnnie Jackson Ronnie Coleman-had big gaps in their physiques coming into bodybuilding and really lacked size right?

[quote]LiftSmart wrote:
Use a power rack as a spotter.[/quote]

Yep.

Also, there’s a few types of power racks, the square cage style is best IMO. You set the safety height, plus they usually have pullup bars built in.

I squat, press, shrug, and bent row inside my cage. It’s great.