Skinny Fat With Pics (Awful I Know)

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ok so now i’m a little confused clean or dirty, something in b/t works I guess. Shoved down 2200 cals so far, bloated as hell but feel good as I spaced them out. Eating 2-3 sercings of skippy PB now, damn is it good. I’m prob. still gonna eat clean…alot don’t wrry. They got flax seed meal bars and granola on sale at foodtown next week, will buy it in bulk and help inc. clean cals w/o feeling full.

Still my routine that I said before, i’m not over doing it am I…after the 3 day workout I sometimes take a day off like today.

Thanks
Thanks

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Also one more question. I don’t get any liquid calories besides milk, I drink alot of water and a can of diet coke a day, should I drink other sugary crap like soda and juices or stick with water.

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[quote]bobisnew wrote:
Also one more question. I don’t get any liquid calories besides milk, I drink alot of water and a can of diet coke a day, should I drink other sugary crap like soda and juices or stick with water.[/quote]

Leave the sodas alone. Drink milk, water and fruit juices. Then drink more milk.

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[quote]oriensus wrote:

Most people think like me? I cited what you said about yourself - implying that you have a big man’s frame. I didn’t assume anything, I’m really surprise you would misread that.
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Apparently, you assumed that I was lying when I said I was skinny. Otherwise, you wouldn’t have written what you did. You would have accepted it and moved on. The rest of your post is just you throwing as hissy fit.

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yeah you were definately throwing a hissy fit for the whole last paragraph. but honestly 130 pounds it doesnt matter what the kid eats. he weighs less than my skinny girlfriend and is taller too and that is disgusting. drink milk i’m not a big fan of juice maybe 100 percent juice but all that really is sugary crap dotn even drink water drink milk.

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Here’s a fact that will I surely get a ton of shit for posting:

Being skinny isn’t unhealthy. It doesn’t shorten your life or contribute to major diseases. In fact, people who eat less live longer.

Eating junk food WILL shorten your life and WILL contribute to the onset of various serious illnesses.

Dirty bulks aren’t an option for people who care more about their long-term health than about gaining size as fast as possible.

And even if you dirty bulk, you’re not guaranteed to put on muscle faster than you would on a cleaner diet. Some people won’t respond the way others do.
That’s why one size doesn’t fit all.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is bullshit. I know this because I was “naturally skinny”.[/quote]

I know your standards from having read your appraisals of other people’s physiques, and they are skewed way, way towards the “fat” end of the spectrum. I doubt that you were really, genuinely skinny. Far more likely that you had an average sized frame. 150 lbs. isn’t necessarily a “skinny” weight. For example, the guys in the UFC who fight in the 175 class could all pass for 200. And then you have untrained, pudgy guys who weigh 185 and look like 145. Different people carry their weights differently. Skinny-fat looks bad at any combination of weight and height, however.

Hey Bob, check the ingredients of your peanut butter. If you see anything “Hydrogenated”, then dump it. You’d be ingesting poison. Natural peanut butter is cheap, widely available, and tastes just as good as the harmful stuff. Get that instead.

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size is a relative thing. the guy who started this thread is 6 feet tall, same as my dad.

EDIT: just double checked. I was wrong. my dad was 115 between the ages of 16 and 22.

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[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Here’s a fact that will I surely get a ton of shit for posting:

Being skinny isn’t unhealthy. It doesn’t shorten your life or contribute to major diseases. In fact, people who eat less live longer.[/quote]

Wrong. Monkeys have been studied and some species of monkey seem to live longer on lower calorie diets. This has NOT been proven in humans in any way, shape or form.

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Eating junk food WILL shorten your life and WILL contribute to the onset of various serious illnesses.[/quote]

Wrong. Blanket statements like this are how you lose credibility. please prove to me that eating junk food once a week will shorten your life. Quit spreading false info.

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Dirty bulks aren’t an option for people who care more about their long-term health than about gaining size as fast as possible.[/quote]

What is a “dirty bulk”? Any addition of food that isn’t a chicken breast?

Who on this board has written that one size fits all?

As usual, you are spewing more shit. 175lbs ripped is nothing like 150lbs at 11% body fat. Da freak just competed at around 190lbs but weighs over 220lbs in the off season. The difference is huge, but leave it to you to not know the difference.

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[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
And even if you dirty bulk, you’re not guaranteed to put on muscle faster than you would on a cleaner diet. Some people won’t respond the way others do.
That’s why one size doesn’t fit all.
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You’re saying some people will put on more muscle mass on a lower calorie diet than the same person on a higher calorie diet? Have you personally seen this happen?

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OMG you fat POS … get on the treadmill and don’t get off until, at the very soonest, September … October is a better choice … gross

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Man I know exactly how you feel bobisnew, i am in this same situation, althought i am 6"2 170, I have the same body type: man boobs, love handles, and that little gut. Peopele do not know what the hell they are talking about when they are telling people with this body type to go on a dirty bulk, the only thing that is going to happen is this guy’s love handles and gut will get bigger and he may gain some muscle but when he looks at his figure he will probably end up starving away all the weight that he has gained.

Now for some actual advice, along with your weight training start doing some HIIT(high intensity interval training) 3 times a week. Now you should try to eat as much as you can but try to keep it clean and dont overdo the carbs. Also you should start supplementing with 3000 mg of CLA and 1000 mg of GLA( from borage oil) every day, i found that this has helped me get rid those dreaded love handles. Try to stay as active as possible and try to eat as much as you can and you will obtain your goal.

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Okay, excuse my ignorance, but what the fuck is a “dirty bulk” and who here suggested that the OP go on one?

I am saying that he needs to up his calories greatly, not that he run to the nearest icecream store and start chowing down(though I don’t have anything against icecream.) I am against the proponent on this board that seems to think he needs to start counting calories and gradually increase his weight by making minimalistic increases in his caloric intake.

In order to put on size you have to eat more, and I feel that keeping it simple and focusing on flat out weight gain would be fine for this guy. He would acheive the results he wants faster in that he will see strength increases, his muscles will grow. This will probably encourage him to stick with it better than the method that many of you are suggesting, which will, in all likelihood, be a much slower process and may not provide any gains at all if not applied properly.

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[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
Here’s a fact that will I surely get a ton of shit for posting:

Being skinny isn’t unhealthy. It doesn’t shorten your life or contribute to major diseases. In fact, people who eat less live longer.

Eating junk food WILL shorten your life and WILL contribute to the onset of various serious illnesses.

Dirty bulks aren’t an option for people who care more about their long-term health than about gaining size as fast as possible.

And even if you dirty bulk, you’re not guaranteed to put on muscle faster than you would on a cleaner diet. Some people won’t respond the way others do.
That’s why one size doesn’t fit all.

Professor X wrote:
This is bullshit. I know this because I was “naturally skinny”.

I know your standards from having read your appraisals of other people’s physiques, and they are skewed way, way towards the “fat” end of the spectrum. I doubt that you were really, genuinely skinny. Far more likely that you had an average sized frame. 150 lbs. isn’t necessarily a “skinny” weight. For example, the guys in the UFC who fight in the 175 class could all pass for 200. And then you have untrained, pudgy guys who weigh 185 and look like 145. Different people carry their weights differently. Skinny-fat looks bad at any combination of weight and height, however.

Hey Bob, check the ingredients of your peanut butter. If you see anything “Hydrogenated”, then dump it. You’d be ingesting poison. Natural peanut butter is cheap, widely available, and tastes just as good as the harmful stuff. Get that instead.[/quote]

Holy crap. I never post here, but NP is an idiot! Who gives a $%*% about life expectancies? This guy just needs to eat!

Why don’t you compare the life expectancies of holocaust victims, or people who live in countries where they are malnousished for a prolonged period of time? Because that’s what this guy is.

To the origninal poster, you’re doing a good job. Keep stuffing your face more than you think you can eat, and keep lifting hard. The rest will fall into place. I’m 6’3" and i was 170 when i started lifting. I’m 227 now, and i still want to get bigger, so keep at it, and you’ll see some good gains.

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…And i would like to add to my other post, that i have pictures from a few years ago, when i was around 190, and present pictures. I’m not “cut” or whatever, but if it works as motivation to the orignal poster, i’d be happy to post them.

My diet was mostly clean, but i ate a lot. I made lots of shakes with oils or PB in them. I also ground up a half cup of oats per shake. I took muscle milk as meal replacements when i couldn’t have solid meals.

There were times when i ate fast food. Actually, there was a period when i ate wendy’s an awful lot, but i can tell you that if the rest of your diet is clean, a meal or two of fast food isn’t going to harm you. Calorie dense foods are going to be your friend for awhile.

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[quote]sactown1 wrote:
Man I know exactly how you feel bobisnew, i am in this same situation, althought i am 6"2 170, I have the same body type: man boobs, love handles, and that little gut. Peopele do not know what the hell they are talking about when they are telling people with this body type to go on a dirty bulk, the only thing that is going to happen is this guy’s love handles and gut will get bigger and he may gain some muscle but when he looks at his figure he will probably end up starving away all the weight that he has gained.

Now for some actual advice, along with your weight training start doing some HIIT(high intensity interval training) 3 times a week. Now you should try to eat as much as you can but try to keep it clean and dont overdo the carbs. Also you should start supplementing with 3000 mg of CLA and 1000 mg of GLA( from borage oil) every day, i found that this has helped me get rid those dreaded love handles. Try to stay as active as possible and try to eat as much as you can and you will obtain your goal.[/quote]

Love handles? Those are his HIPS. He is 130lbs and as a result, you can see where his hip bone is. That isn’t body fat and it is beyond crazy that you would imply that he has a fat problem he needs to worry about at his weight.

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[quote]sactown1 wrote:
Man I know exactly how you feel bobisnew, i am in this same situation, althought i am 6"2 170, I have the same body type: man boobs, love handles, and that little gut. Peopele do not know what the hell they are talking about when they are telling people with this body type to go on a dirty bulk, the only thing that is going to happen is this guy’s love handles and gut will get bigger and he may gain some muscle but when he looks at his figure he will probably end up starving away all the weight that he has gained.

Now for some actual advice, along with your weight training start doing some HIIT(high intensity interval training) 3 times a week. Now you should try to eat as much as you can but try to keep it clean and dont overdo the carbs. Also you should start supplementing with 3000 mg of CLA and 1000 mg of GLA( from borage oil) every day, i found that this has helped me get rid those dreaded love handles. Try to stay as active as possible and try to eat as much as you can and you will obtain your goal.[/quote]

First of all, 170@6’2" is substantially different from 130@6’1", although I still don’t understand why someone who is only 170@6’2" AND has love handles, etc., feels like enough of an expert to try to refute what msost of the experienced and successful lifters around here are saying. Secondly (attn: Nominal Prospect), while it’s true that Professor X is sometimes extreme in his opinions (I think I once saw him say that unless you were short, weighing 250 wouldn’t qualify you as big :)), how can you say that he is being extreme in his advice to this kid? All he’s really said is that the kid is too skinny and needs to gain weight. Don’t you think it’s more extreme to tell someone who’s 6’1" 130 that he should be doing anything else? Also, I don’t see how eating some (not ALL) fast food for the next several months is going to permanently compromise a nineteen year old’s health, especially when the alternative appears to be starving himself.

Finally, for bobisnew: I’m glad you’re starting to see the light and have begun to make a real effort to eat more, BUT… why are you still counting calories? I know there are lots of guys around here who seem to spend most of their time painstakingly measuring the calories they consume and calculating the calories they burn. I figure these people are either (in the VERY rare case) guys like Caveman who have achieved a level of development that can only be improved by precise calorie and training manipulation, or else (MUCH more likely) guys who would rather spend their time designing the “perfect” diet and the “perfect” weight-training program than actually spend it in the gym. Point is, STOP overthinking this. Let yourself off the hook a little. STOP counting your calories. Just make an effort to eat more than you have been and not to stop yourself from having some ice cream or a burger if that’s what you’re craving. (By the way, I think 3000 calories is still too low, but it’s a certainly a step in the right direction.)

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If he doesn’t count calories, he’s probably gonna feel like he’s eating a lot when he’s eating only 1700 cal/day. I don’t count the precise # for the day but I try to get around 600 in each of my six meals.

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[quote]t-ha wrote:
Nominal I have a couple of problems with what you’re saying/implying.

1] that he’s 15% BF - he isn’t, he’s lower.

2] that there’s something wrong with being 15% BF - it’s a perfectly reasonable bodyfat to have.

3] that he needs to lose fat - even if you’re right and he is 15% BF at 130lbs, thta means he’s got 19.5lbs of fat on his frame. If he gained to 150lbs that would be 13%BF, and at 180lbs it would be slightly over 10%. On top of that, the simple fact is that he is NOT 15% to begin with. What he needs to do is concentrate entirely on building himself up, not worry about body recomposition.[/quote]

You’re correct. I had the same issue. I was (and still am) skinny but you can’t see my abs at all. I always assumed that meant I had to eat less fat and lose fat. My abdomen actually sticks out farther than this guy’s. But then I got my body fat measured at my University about six weeks ago and saw that it was only 6%!

Like this guy’s build, my build had nothing to do with fat–just very poor inner and outer ab muscles. I’ve been doing some work to try to develop them but I’m really just trying to put on as much mass as I can without worrying about the abs. I’ve just accepted that I’ll probably always have abs that stick out a bit farther than my chest, but I can still look good if I’m bigger and more muscular. (I’ve put on about 8 pounds since getting my body fat measured.)

If I had 6% body fat when I was 5’5" 117, I’d guess this guy has about 3 to 4% bf.

To the original poster: You’re on the right track because you’ve identified that you have a weight problem. I think it’s great that most people here have been constructive. You DON’T have a fat problem (other than that you have too little fat). And you won’t see your abs any better if you just attempt to lose the fat you don’t even have.

Do some work for your inner abs, BUT keep in mind that if you add a lot of mass to your chest and shoulders, your abdomen will look better because it will look smaller.

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[quote]Bonn1997 wrote:
I’d guess this guy has about 3 to 4% bf.[/quote]

No way in hell.

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Thanks for reply, yea I’m just pigin out now. Got 3000+ cals done done today. Cereals like kashi and granola mixes are really calorie dense and don’t make me full. Would they be a clean food, the only bad thing I see from it is tha amt of sugar 12+ grams, about 10g prot, 6g fiber, 5 g fat(good), 30 carbs(wheat or oats only) = around 200 cal per 1/2 cup? Thanks