Single Digit Body Fat %

[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
this is why i hardly read this shitty rag forum anymore.

if you are perpetually sub 10% bf, especially the 5-6% range you ARE NOT HOST TO AN ANABOLIC ENVIRONMENT. point two, most folks wouldn’t know 5-6%bf if it reached out and kicked them in the dick.

“i’m like 8% bf…bullshit you are 15%+ dickhead.”

chiming in also unless you’re very short ripped (constant shape), 170 with the abs isn’t impressive, as X said this is a BB forum.

if you are 5’10 + and sub 200lbs you are a women.

i started at 145lbs too, so i was formerly a lady. Getting to 200 lean is easy…eat a lot, lift a lot for a few yrs. w/ my genetics i’ve added 75+lbs and maintained the ability to not get a stomach 3-4 yrs at 20+ lbs a yr. [/quote]

Reading through this thread is quite shocking…it’s like getting an excerpt from BB.com lol

I can’t believe there are some saying that’s it’s easy to bodybuild under 10% bf. Granted, SOME can do it maybe 8-10%, but not most. And even then, it’s not optimal for maximal mass gains (which as PX keeps “hitting his head against a wall” saying, the priority is building muscle).

Since when did it become standard to be able to gain as much muscle as possible without gaining much/any fat??? I seem to have forgotten that part in “Bodybuilding 101”. It takes effort just for average joe to get under 10% bf (unless he’s naturally lean), and he doesn’t even need to worry about muscle gains like a bodybuilder does.

I’m talking from the perspective of what is often called an “ectomorph” (someone who naturally stays lean)…but even I don’t expect to stay under 10% for gaining as much muscle as possible. Currently I am ~12%, and I wouldn’t say that at just under 220lbs, I look fat/aesthetically displeasing. Tell me why I need to be in single digit bf numbers to look like a bodybuilder?

What makes me laugh, is the fact that the “stay really lean all the time” crowd get their inspiration from lean people, but often these “rolemodels” went through some sort of heavy bulk to start with. Half the people that look impressive when really lean, built up their physique via bulking (i.e. sacrificing their ABs quite a bit). It’s quite funny to think that people are mislead to think that they can look like “such and such” simply by dieting down (without decently bulking first).

Amusing that people who practically never participate suddenly come out of the woodwork just to complain.

Have fun in the conditioning forum.

[quote]SteaL7h wrote:
So let me get this straight. If we are not 250 lbs 6" we can’t participate in discussions in this forum to do with body fat percentage without being beaked?

Our points just are not valid? This was not the purpose of this thread.[/quote]

Do you even train?

19 years old.

Weight:
155
Height:
6"
Body Fat %:
8-10%

FFS…

You just came in here to post some bs blanket statement you read somewhere?
And you do realize that it’s a damn lot harder to stay lean past your teenage years for most people?
As a young beginner you can do all kinds of shit and get away with it.

[quote]angus_beef wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I am a moderator of this forum now. I am just letting it be known publicly that this type of debate is no longer going to be tolerated.

If you don’t want to gain any muscle mass, fine. Take it to the conditioning forum, the strength forum or the Get a Life forum.

Not one person in this thread is condoning becoming obese. [/quote]

Whoa Kim Jung il , now that you’re a moderator certain discussions are off limit ? The same individual who have stated on countless occasions that this is a public forum and anyone who gets offended by certain statements should stay out… is now advocating the removal of certain post with opinions different than his ?.. Is this an accurate assessment ?[/quote]

I’m surprised that your post made it through.

[quote]SteaL7h wrote:
So let me get this straight. If we are not 250 lbs 6" we can’t participate in discussions in this forum to do with body fat percentage without being beaked?

Our points just are not valid? This was not the purpose of this thread.[/quote]

Your point is valid, but not on this thread. Prof. X is correct, Bodybuilding is about a MUSCULAR, lean, aesthetic physique. This being a bodybuilding forum, there should only be Bodybuilding conversation.

To quote the OP:

“I’m interested in the motivations of those of you with goals to be be in the mid single digits (say 5-6%) in the long-term and continuously.”

It is not your fault SteaL7h, it is the OP’s. This should be moved to the conditioning forum.

This is due to the fact that the question is not about bodybuilding, bodybuilders, contest prep, cutting down, etc., but is ONLY about BF% and not truly applicable to the SPORT of bodybuilding. The SPORT is not about staying lean all “continuously”, but divided into a contest and off season, wherein bodybuilders sacrafice some of their leanness in order to increase their musculature, either selectively or generally depending on their proportions, size, etc.

Being skinny skinny, i.e. having low bf% and low lbm, means that you cannot discuss a similar topic on a bodybuilding forum without relying heavily on theoretical knowledge (not that this is to imply that I personally huge) .

So, again, it is the OP’s fault. Let us end this debate, remove the thread, and continue to limit off topic threads on this forum. I am entirely sure that all who wis to actually address the OP’s question can do so in the appropriate space.

Thanks Mod. X.

I don’t know what my body fat was in this pic, but I felt like shit until I put on some FAT. When I got that lean, it took alot of effort to do normal activities not to mention working out.

Keep up the good work, PX!

[quote]bwhitwell wrote:
I don’t know what my body fat was in this pic, but I felt like shit until I put on some FAT. When I got that lean, it took alot of effort to do normal activities not to mention working out.[/quote]

dang what year is that pic? Looks like the late 70’s or early 80’s… Also that mustache is legit! Very Magnum PI of you… Stache’s FTW!

.greg.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I am a moderator of this forum now. I am just letting it be known publicly that this type of debate is no longer going to be tolerated. [/quote]

Surely you should have just moved it to the conditioning forum then.

Arguing within a topic which clearly is in the wrong place, is that really being a responsible moderator?

[quote]WP wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I am a moderator of this forum now. I am just letting it be known publicly that this type of debate is no longer going to be tolerated. [/quote]

Surely you should have just moved it to the conditioning forum then.

Arguing within a topic which clearly is in the wrong place, is that really being a responsible moderator?[/quote]
The thread is 5 years old. It really doesn’t have much to do with his statement, which is keep threads here in bodybuilding about body building. Seems pretty easy, but we continue to have conditioning nuts treat this place like home.

Maybe the Bodybuilding forum should have subforums by weight class. For example, someone that weighs 160 and wants to know how to cut would post in the lightweight forum. He would get advice from other lightweights on how to be in single digit body fat. Someone that weighs 270 would be in the heavyweight forum and would better appreciate advices from Prof X, etc. This should hopefully save everyone’s time.

[quote]bwhitwell wrote:
I don’t know what my body fat was in this pic, but I felt like shit until I put on some FAT. When I got that lean, it took alot of effort to do normal activities not to mention working out.[/quote]

bwhitwell, you sir, are a pimp. Definitely one of the more underrated guys on this forum.

Because someone who is cutting at 160 pounds isn’t bodybuilding. He is conditioning, which we happen to have a forum for. Bodybuilding is a pursuit of muscle, at 160 pounds you haven’t achieved that and losing weight isn’t what anyone concerned with getting more muscular would recommend. THIS is why these forums need to be cleaned up.

[quote]WP wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I am a moderator of this forum now. I am just letting it be known publicly that this type of debate is no longer going to be tolerated. [/quote]

Surely you should have just moved it to the conditioning forum then.

Arguing within a topic which clearly is in the wrong place, is that really being a responsible moderator?[/quote]

Who gives a shit? This thread is FIVE YEARS OLD. That makes it the PERFECT place to make it publicly clear what is to be expected. Why move a DEAD 5 year old thread that was only revived because some 2010 member can’t read dates?

Better yet, how about you let me do my thing and you do yours. I do believe the point was made very clear the way I did it so what exactly do you have a problem with?

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]bwhitwell wrote:
I don’t know what my body fat was in this pic, but I felt like shit until I put on some FAT. When I got that lean, it took alot of effort to do normal activities not to mention working out.[/quote]

bwhitwell, you sir, are a pimp. Definitely one of the more underrated guys on this forum. [/quote]

Agreed but I don’t think he is that underrated. Most of the regulars here know he deserves respect and that he has achieved more than most.

He just doesn’t post as much as I wish he would.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]bwhitwell wrote:
I don’t know what my body fat was in this pic, but I felt like shit until I put on some FAT. When I got that lean, it took alot of effort to do normal activities not to mention working out.[/quote]

bwhitwell, you sir, are a pimp. Definitely one of the more underrated guys on this forum. [/quote]

Agreed but I don’t think he is that underrated. Most of the regulars here know he deserves respect and that he has achieved more than most.

He just doesn’t post as much as I wish he would.[/quote]

Agreed, Bwhitwell could certinaly pimp his post count and no one would complain.

Shit, Prof X is a mod now. Why isnt a thread being made about it?

Look like I am on the wrong side of the fence LOLOLOL

I just wanted to pop in and lavish praise on bwhitwell’s awesome porn stache.

If I’m not mistaken though, while X has mod powers, I thought he couldn’t move threads because he didn’t have mod powers there? Unless something’s changed…

Also, single digit body fat is purdy. It’s a lot purdier with the muskels. 'nuf said. Isn’t that all there is to say about the motivation?

what - four pages of bodyfat discussion and not a single “shoe” pic?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]WP wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I am a moderator of this forum now. I am just letting it be known publicly that this type of debate is no longer going to be tolerated. [/quote]

Surely you should have just moved it to the conditioning forum then.

Arguing within a topic which clearly is in the wrong place, is that really being a responsible moderator?[/quote]

Who gives a shit? This thread is FIVE YEARS OLD. That makes it the PERFECT place to make it publicly clear what is to be expected. Why move a DEAD 5 year old thread that was only revived because some 2010 member can’t read dates?

Better yet, how about you let me do my thing and you do yours. I do believe the point was made very clear the way I did it so what exactly do you have a problem with?[/quote]

You quite clearly give a shit.

The thread may have been started five years ago, but it seems like the majority of the posts were made less than a week ago - ie: discussion of a conditioning topic in the bodybuilding forum.

But yeah, you do your thing, whatever that is.