[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
this is why i hardly read this shitty rag forum anymore.
if you are perpetually sub 10% bf, especially the 5-6% range you ARE NOT HOST TO AN ANABOLIC ENVIRONMENT. point two, most folks wouldn’t know 5-6%bf if it reached out and kicked them in the dick.
“i’m like 8% bf…bullshit you are 15%+ dickhead.”
chiming in also unless you’re very short ripped (constant shape), 170 with the abs isn’t impressive, as X said this is a BB forum.
if you are 5’10 + and sub 200lbs you are a women.
i started at 145lbs too, so i was formerly a lady. Getting to 200 lean is easy…eat a lot, lift a lot for a few yrs. w/ my genetics i’ve added 75+lbs and maintained the ability to not get a stomach 3-4 yrs at 20+ lbs a yr. [/quote]
Reading through this thread is quite shocking…it’s like getting an excerpt from BB.com lol
I can’t believe there are some saying that’s it’s easy to bodybuild under 10% bf. Granted, SOME can do it maybe 8-10%, but not most. And even then, it’s not optimal for maximal mass gains (which as PX keeps “hitting his head against a wall” saying, the priority is building muscle).
Since when did it become standard to be able to gain as much muscle as possible without gaining much/any fat??? I seem to have forgotten that part in “Bodybuilding 101”. It takes effort just for average joe to get under 10% bf (unless he’s naturally lean), and he doesn’t even need to worry about muscle gains like a bodybuilder does.
I’m talking from the perspective of what is often called an “ectomorph” (someone who naturally stays lean)…but even I don’t expect to stay under 10% for gaining as much muscle as possible. Currently I am ~12%, and I wouldn’t say that at just under 220lbs, I look fat/aesthetically displeasing. Tell me why I need to be in single digit bf numbers to look like a bodybuilder?
What makes me laugh, is the fact that the “stay really lean all the time” crowd get their inspiration from lean people, but often these “rolemodels” went through some sort of heavy bulk to start with. Half the people that look impressive when really lean, built up their physique via bulking (i.e. sacrificing their ABs quite a bit). It’s quite funny to think that people are mislead to think that they can look like “such and such” simply by dieting down (without decently bulking first).
