I personally could careless about my BF%. I’ve literally never even bothered trying to measure it. I go off how I feel and how I look. I mean if I have ripped abs and gread definition but a body fat machine tells me I’m at 10% I’m not really going to strive to go much leaner. However if I feel like I’m carrying around a lot of weight, can’t see my abs, and can’t do pullups anymore but some machine tells me I’m really only 10% bodyfat I’m not going to be happy because a machine says I’m fairly lean, I’ll cut despite my BF% until I feel that I’m carrying around the amount of fat I’m comfortable with.
On a side note when it comes to training and boxing I definitely feel much faster the less fat I have. And I don’t just mean handspeed, but I feel like my reflexes are much faster when I carry less fat. Which I have never really understood.
[quote]SteaL7h wrote:
Do your cardio hard, lift weights hard, and don’t eat crap. You won’t have to worry about ever being double digit percent.[/quote]
[quote]SteaL7h wrote:
Do your cardio hard, lift weights hard, and don’t eat crap. You won’t have to worry about ever being double digit percent.[/quote]
If only it were that easy.[/quote]
I love hearing naive comments like this. What do we need nutrition experts like Berrardi for, it’s just that easy!
[quote]SteaL7h wrote:
Do your cardio hard, lift weights hard, and don’t eat crap. You won’t have to worry about ever being double digit percent.[/quote]
If only it were that easy.[/quote]
It actually IS that easy.
[quote]SteaL7h wrote:
Do your cardio hard, lift weights hard, and don’t eat crap. You won’t have to worry about ever being double digit percent.[/quote]
You’ve been here since 2006 and you really believe that?
[quote]SteaL7h wrote:
Do your cardio hard, lift weights hard, and don’t eat crap. You won’t have to worry about ever being double digit percent.[/quote]
If only it were that easy.[/quote]
It actually IS that easy.[/quote]
Now I’m curious. Do you have something that we don’t know? I’m not mocking or anything. Is it simply kcal reduction or something else?
[quote]Dule wrote:
^ um…who is talking about being huge? topic of conversation here is being in single digits…[/quote]
Well this is in the bodybuilding forum…so the generally accepted goal is to get bigger.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Wizlon, I can understand the goal to be nice and lean if you’ve never been. But I think that once you get there, you’ll realize that there’s nothing so inherently wonderful about it. Personally, I have good abs when 10% and solid definition generally. This is fine with me, but beyond this just seems unecessary to me.[/quote]
i’ve always been lean (single digit) but noticed in my 40’s that although lean i had a belly problem. it was more than aesthetics (a belly problem for me was too much processed carbs) but that was my main motivation. i hated the early pregnancy look!
so i got down to my college freshman weight after a year of veggies/fruit/legumes/nuts/meat with no muscle loss. i had what a lot of the homo-like young guys crave as a fight club body. but i noticed that my performance and libido were off the mark. strange.
i’ve since let myself pack on a bit more weight (just 5lb is enough to make a big change IME) mostly by upping periworkout nutrition. i feel great and allow for pizza, and that sort of things, sometimes. doesn’t seem like a sacrifice once you get used to the steady energy and consistent performance due to abstaining from the easy carbs of our modern culture.
it ain’t forrest griffin tough, but nothing wrong with discipline.
[quote]SteaL7h wrote:
Do your cardio hard, lift weights hard, and don’t eat crap. You won’t have to worry about ever being double digit percent.[/quote]
Show me a person who can do both Intense Cardio and Intense weighting for a prolong period of time, idiot…
[quote]Dule wrote:
^ um…who is talking about being huge? topic of conversation here is being in single digits…[/quote]
Well this is in the bodybuilding forum…so the generally accepted goal is to get bigger.
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Yea and being lean is obsolete and no longer accepted in bodybuilding !
My motivation for getting into and staying in the single digits, is obviously asthetics…but the leaner you are, the more insulin sensitive you will be, which will lead to more muscle!
So in a sense, it is like an investment for more muscle later…having said that, by NO MEANS would I sacrifice the muscle I have in order to get down under 10%, if anything, continue gaining slower, which can be done if smart with nutrition and training.
[quote]Dule wrote:
^ um…who is talking about being huge? topic of conversation here is being in single digits…[/quote]
Well this is in the bodybuilding forum…so the generally accepted goal is to get bigger.
[/quote]
Yea and being lean is obsolete and no longer accepted in bodybuilding ![/quote]
Who said that? Oh, right…no one.
This is a bodybuilding forum. In an effort to keep this forum on the topic of bodybuilding and related subjects, if posters continue to post as if this is NOT the bodybuilding forum they will begin to have their posts deleted or moved to other forums on the website.
The goal here is not to be tiny yet ripped…which is the implication when a posteer logs in and writes:
You can continue to debate what “huge” means, but implying that muscle size is not needed would mean you are in the wrong forum.
[quote]SteaL7h wrote:
Do your cardio hard, lift weights hard, and don’t eat crap. You won’t have to worry about ever being double digit percent.[/quote]
Show me a person who can do both Intense Cardio and Intense weighting for a prolong period of time, idiot…
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When I first started lifting I was still a distance runner. I lifted hard 5 days a week while running 20-30 miles a week all around 7:00-8:00 pace. One day a week I would run sprints/intervals (either tabata, or 1:00 on/1:00 off). I still put on close to 20lbs in 4 months at the ripe old age of 31. While I was cutting for my show I would bike 100 miles a week and lift 5 days a week (NOT optimal, but cycling was a mental release for me…much needed while in a caloric deficit). Still kept the majority of my muscle mass.
Anyway, I’m just using that as a rare example. But generally your average joe lifter ain’t gonna run hard and lift hard. DEFINETLY ain’t gonna run hard, lift hard, maintain single digits AND gain muscle.
PS: I gained all of my lost muscle back through an extensive nutrition program: it was called eat every mothafuckin thing in site…from 5’5’ 150lb 5.5% to 180lb 18% in two months!..
Oh ok, because bodybuilding is ALL about being huge (sarcasm intended). Yes, being size is an important aspect of it, but not the only. Aesthetics is also a crucial factor in bodybuilding and this thread, is dedicated to it. So THAT is why we are posting about body fat and “being ripped”.
Oh and P.S. i have NO idea how you managed to derive that an implication of what i posted earlier, is that “the goal is to be tiny yet ripped”. Its called - reading things in context, you should try it some time!
[quote]Dule wrote:
^ um…who is talking about being huge? topic of conversation here is being in single digits…[/quote]
Well this is in the bodybuilding forum…so the generally accepted goal is to get bigger.
[/quote]
Yea and being lean is obsolete and no longer accepted in bodybuilding ![/quote]
Who said that? Oh, right…no one.
This is a bodybuilding forum. In an effort to keep this forum on the topic of bodybuilding and related subjects, if posters continue to post as if this is NOT the bodybuilding forum they will begin to have their posts deleted or moved to other forums on the website.
The goal here is not to be tiny yet ripped…which is the implication when a posteer logs in and writes:
You can continue to debate what “huge” means, but implying that muscle size is not needed would mean you are in the wrong forum.
[/quote]
Yea and just like the guys who are concerned about losing their six pack we have guys on the other end of the spectrum who just go by the the numbers on the scale neglecting everything else.
Every time someone mentions being lean or wanting abs this forum is in an uproar, yet we have individuals bulking up to become fat asses and they get a pat on the back and complemented for making progress.
I would think the general accepted goal in the bodybuilding building forum would be to maximize muscle, not all about being “huge”
I would much rather be a lean 190 than a marsh mellow 250
