Simeon Panda - Swole

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[quote]yolo84 wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
I can’t tell you how many brothers I know that exaggerate (or outright lie) about their efforts in the gym and kitchen to make themselves out to be some genetic supermen. Kingbeef just said he “half assed” a lot. I can guarantee his version of “half assing” is borderline ocd in comparison to actual half assing.

Of course there are people out there with phenomenal genetics for building muscle. But you don’t look like that without chemical assistance, no matter how “superior” your genetics.[/quote]

true

also very true about people (not KB) who completely play down their training and diet to sound like they are the amazing spiderman

i personally know 2-3 of these types well and have chatted to many others in the gym

one guy will pretty much say point blank he does not even train when people ask him about his muscular build[/quote]

Shit, I’ve said this sometimes. I have had people literally ask if I workout or if I was just naturally big like this. Most times I will try to play nice, but sometimes, the question is just that out of place.

I knew a guy who competed in NPC who would tell people he had only been bodybuilding 4-5 years. He was 260lbs lean with abs showing at 5’8". He lifted before, but he didn’t consider any of that “bodybuilding” because of how well he made progress.

If I tell soemone, “Naw, I don’t lift”, and they believe, you blame me?

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I don’t know about anyone else, but the simple fact that every thread turns into some “he used ROIDZ” debate means most of you must not be making much progress.

If people don’t think you are on steroids, you are doing it wrong.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t know about anyone else, but the simple fact that every thread turns into some “he used ROIDZ” debate means most of you must not be making much progress.

If people don’t think you are on steroids, you are doing it wrong.[/quote]

I have no idea if this Simeon guy is using or not but people have way too many perceived limits for natural guys, it gets old hearing that you can’t be 220 with abs or that 20 inch arms are impossible without drugs

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[quote]PJS2010 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t know about anyone else, but the simple fact that every thread turns into some “he used ROIDZ” debate means most of you must not be making much progress.

If people don’t think you are on steroids, you are doing it wrong.[/quote]

I have no idea if this Simeon guy is using or not but people have way too many perceived limits for natural guys, it gets old hearing that you can’t be 220 with abs or that 20 inch arms are impossible without drugs[/quote]

Agreed…but uit will keep happening until you guys speak up more.

I weigh 250lbs right now. If you want to believe that is because of pro-hormone MAG-10 so be it.

What would be stupid is worrying about what other people think. I only speak up lately because I do see this current trend doing nothing but limiting the progress of any newbs listening.

I was a super skinny kid who got my arms over 18" in less than 3 years without steroids. If some of these guys want to run around telling everyone else it can’t be done and that no man can do it, honestly, it is on them now if they believe it.

Simeon is a beast.

The racist bullshit on this site needs to stop…especially that coming from the same irritated and mouthy white guys on the forum.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t know about anyone else, but the simple fact that every thread turns into some “he used ROIDZ” debate means most of you must not be making much progress.

If people don’t think you are on steroids, you are doing it wrong.[/quote]

You should just make that ur fucken slogan, its essentially all you write when you come into these types of topics.

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[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t know about anyone else, but the simple fact that every thread turns into some “he used ROIDZ” debate means most of you must not be making much progress.

If people don’t think you are on steroids, you are doing it wrong.[/quote]

You should just make that ur fucken slogan, its essentially all you write when you come into these types of topics.[/quote]

That’s because it is the ONLY logical response if you actually plan on being one of the guys who stand out in the gym.

Of course people will think you are on steroids if you have big muscles. It doesn’t matter if you did or not. They will refuse to only focus on your hardwork no matter what. They will blame genetics…or the fact that you are black…or a thousand other things like drugs before they admit that the guy they are talking about is simply better than them at something and was consistent more than they were.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t know about anyone else, but the simple fact that every thread turns into some “he used ROIDZ” debate means most of you must not be making much progress.

If people don’t think you are on steroids, you are doing it wrong.[/quote]

You should just make that ur fucken slogan, its essentially all you write when you come into these types of topics.[/quote]

That’s because it is the ONLY logical response if you actually plan on being one of the guys who stand out in the gym.

Of course people will think you are on steroids if you have big muscles. It doesn’t matter if you did or not. They will refuse to only focus on your hardwork no matter what. They will blame genetics…or the fact that you are black…or a thousand other things like drugs before they admit that the guy they are talking about is simply better than them at something and was consistent more than they were.[/quote]

I agree with all that and that does apply to the general population. I think on T-Nation its more of a “Dam he made all that progress in THAT amount of time, I wonder if he used steroids and I wonder if it would be a good route to go down to enhance my progress.” Thats why I like to think people as the question on the forum but maybe I’m wrong.

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[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t know about anyone else, but the simple fact that every thread turns into some “he used ROIDZ” debate means most of you must not be making much progress.

If people don’t think you are on steroids, you are doing it wrong.[/quote]

You should just make that ur fucken slogan, its essentially all you write when you come into these types of topics.[/quote]

That’s because it is the ONLY logical response if you actually plan on being one of the guys who stand out in the gym.

Of course people will think you are on steroids if you have big muscles. It doesn’t matter if you did or not. They will refuse to only focus on your hardwork no matter what. They will blame genetics…or the fact that you are black…or a thousand other things like drugs before they admit that the guy they are talking about is simply better than them at something and was consistent more than they were.[/quote]

I agree with all that and that does apply to the general population. I think on T-Nation its more of a “Dam he made all that progress in THAT amount of time, I wonder if he used steroids and I wonder if it would be a good route to go down to enhance my progress.” Thats why I like to think people as the question on the forum but maybe I’m wrong.

[/quote]

I would say you are wrong. The same guys are the ones bringing it up. You tell me why Whiteflash and others only seem to respond in threads like this on this forum. Do you think it is because they are at risk of ever being near that built?

It doesn’t matter if he “may” have used steroids. Bringing it up like this does nothing but add more rumors with no proof of anything.

We already know most of the people here wouldn’t even look like regular lifters. That is why they focus on this so much.

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“Irritated and mouthy white guys”, that’s rich. As far as I can tell, the only racist bullshit being written on here is by black dudes.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
“Irritated and mouthy white guys”, that’s rich. As far as I can tell, the only racist bullshit being written on here is by black dudes. [/quote]

You are the one who brought it up. Please, inform me and everyone else what was written that made you write that original racist statement.

Getting mad because the black guy in the room you called out responds is a little mentally handicapped.

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I’m brown, so I’m not as lame as a white guy, but not as intimidating as a black guy. Also, my great gramps owned the village gym in India, he’d oil himself up and then dirt wrestle/swim/lift weird implements/run all day and then eat chickpeas

thus, I have the best genetics

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
“Irritated and mouthy white guys”, that’s rich. As far as I can tell, the only racist bullshit being written on here is by black dudes. [/quote]

You are the one who brought it up. Please, inform me and everyone else what was written that made you write that original racist statement.

Getting mad because the black guy in the room you called out responds is a little mentally handicapped.[/quote]

Mad? Why would I be mad? Several people over the years have called you out for your subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) racism towards white people, and you do what you always do: play dumb, accuse 'em of singling you out, start bringing up shit that has nothing to do with what’s being discussed, try and bait 'em into an e-fight, claim intellectual and physical superiority, proclaim yourself the winner of a game only you’re playing, then wait to start it again.

If I misconstrued your intent with your first post in this thread, my apologies. But, you still haven’t answered as to why you think people would complain if Panda was on the front page here.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
“Irritated and mouthy white guys”, that’s rich. As far as I can tell, the only racist bullshit being written on here is by black dudes. [/quote]

You are the one who brought it up. Please, inform me and everyone else what was written that made you write that original racist statement.

Getting mad because the black guy in the room you called out responds is a little mentally handicapped.[/quote]

Mad? Why would I be mad? Several people over the years have called you out for your subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) racism towards white people, and you do what you always do: play dumb, accuse 'em of singling you out, start bringing up shit that has nothing to do with what’s being discussed, try and bait 'em into an e-fight, claim intellectual and physical superiority, proclaim yourself the winner of a game only you’re playing, then wait to start it again.

If I misconstrued your intent with your first post in this thread, my apologies. But, you still haven’t answered as to why you think people would complain if Panda was on the front page here.[/quote]

Bullshit. Just like you all lied about what I said about Rockel, where are all of these racist posts>?

Please, if they exist, go find just ONE of them that proves some racist slant.

My comment about people protesting was because we just had a thread where people complained about the pictures of the guys on the front of the forum for being too jacked implying they only wanted pictures of people who were “natural and attainable”.

Others here knew exactly what I was talking about.

Once again, it is your own weak reading comprehension and perception that made you see something racist…as always.

You along with a few others spend your time only making posts like this in this forum.

You are by far one of the least likely to impress anyone like Simeon has which is why it seems strange to me that guys like you who do not take bodybuilding to an extreme are the first to care who is using what.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
“Irritated and mouthy white guys”, that’s rich. As far as I can tell, the only racist bullshit being written on here is by black dudes. [/quote]

You are the one who brought it up. Please, inform me and everyone else what was written that made you write that original racist statement.

Getting mad because the black guy in the room you called out responds is a little mentally handicapped.[/quote]

Mad? Why would I be mad? Several people over the years have called you out for your subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) racism towards white people, and you do what you always do: play dumb, accuse 'em of singling you out, start bringing up shit that has nothing to do with what’s being discussed, try and bait 'em into an e-fight, claim intellectual and physical superiority, proclaim yourself the winner of a game only you’re playing, then wait to start it again.

If I misconstrued your intent with your first post in this thread, my apologies. But, you still haven’t answered as to why you think people would complain if Panda was on the front page here.[/quote]

Bullshit. Just like you all lied about what I said about Rockel, where are all of these racist posts>?

Please, if they exist, go find just ONE of them that proves some racist slant.

My comment about people protesting was because we just had a thread where people complained about the pictures of the guys on the front of the forum for being too jacked implying they only wanted pictures of people who were “natural and attainable”.

Others here knew exactly what I was talking about.

Once again, it is your own weak reading comprehension and perception that made you see something racist…as always.

You along with a few others spend your time only making posts like this in this forum.

You are by far one of the least likely to impress anyone like Simeon has which is why it seems strange to me that guys like you who do not take bodybuilding to an extreme are the first to care who is using what.[/quote]

First, I’ve never once written anything about your comment about his back.

Second, I’m not gonna waste my time digging up something you’ve written to prove my point to some obnoxious idiot on the internet with delusions of grandeur. You know what you’ve written, so do I, that’s enough for me.

Third, why the fuck would I care about impressing this guy, or any guy for that matter? You think he’d be impressed by some fat loudmouth who wasted his life on the internet and struggles with a reverse band 3 plate bench and can’t even do a fucking lunge?

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

First, I’ve never once written anything about your comment about his back.[/quote]

Doesn’t matter if you personally wrote it. The act of going around telling people I said something based on your poor comprehension (in light of the fact that it wasn’t actually written) is the same act.

[quote]

Second, I’m not gonna waste my time digging up something you’ve written to prove my point to some obnoxious idiot on the internet with delusions of grandeur. You know what you’ve written, so do I, that’s enough for me.[/quote]

Uh, yeah…once again, if all of these posts represent what I stand for or believe, then finding ones that show this would be easy.

You can’t find them…because just like here, they only exist in your head.

Some would say THAT is racist.

[quote]
Third, why the fuck would I care about impressing this guy, or any guy for that matter? You think he’d be impressed by some fat loudmouth who wasted his life on the internet and struggles with a reverse band 3 plate bench and can’t even do a fucking lunge?[/quote]

? I made a very specific reference to the fact that you do NOT stand out as extreme and do not have that goal…so why comment about who uses what with so much vigor when you clearly don’t follow any type of extreme bodybuilding lifestyle?

I have posted shirtless pics recently. You do NOT look leaner than me right now so what is the “fat” comment directed at?

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Dude, you are fucking retarded. I walk around with visible veins running through my chest, shoulders and arms, and have abs without flexing. We’re in the same city. I’ll bet you whatever you like that my bf% is at least 5% lower. I don’t even try for that. That’s just my genetics.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Dude, you are fucking retarded. I walk around with visible veins running through my chest, shoulders and arms, and have abs without flexing. We’re in the same city. I’ll bet you whatever you like that my bf% is at least 5% lower. I don’t even try for that. That’s just my genetics.[/quote]

Uh, I have veins running across my chest shoulders and biceps also.

I even posted pics of the ones on my arms before.

hell, I am leaner than in that avatar pic and I have veins on my shoulder there.

Are you ok?

It doesn’t matter if your bf% is “5% lower”. I seriously doubt ANYONE on planet Earth looks at you and thinks “extreme lifter with extreme muscle growth”.

Sorry. I doubt anyone is whispering or making comments when you walk past unless it is at a retirement home.

I said you don’t look leaner than me right now.

Post a picture or shut the hell up.

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PX did your NPC friend make it big time?

5’8 260 with abs is up there with the biggest guys in history.

i am not doubting btw just curious.

also imo it is BLINDINGLY obvious that there are a number of racist posts in this thread from black people which denigrate whites and also play up to the stupidest cliches about blacks as well.

i definitely dont see any anti-black sentiment from anyone whatsoever.

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Good God you’re a fucking idiot. I get approached about working out daily. DAILY. No, I’m not huge, and never claimed to be. But, I’m in pretty damn good shape and walk around at legit 10-ish %. I’ll post a pic later today so you can get your rocks off.

Oh, how am I supposed to break it to the black Twin Peaks waitress I have coming over later that I’m a racist?

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Good God you’re a fucking idiot. I get approached about working out daily. DAILY. No, I’m not huge, and never claimed to be. But, I’m in pretty damn good shape and walk around at legit 10-ish %. I’ll post a pic later today so you can get your rocks off.

Oh, how am I supposed to break it to the black Twin Peaks waitress I have coming over later that I’m a racist?[/quote]

LOL. Sure, baby. Everything will be ok. Be sure to tell your Twin Peaks waitress it’s just cold. Who knows, she may not laugh.