Simeon Panda - Swole

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[quote]In10s wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
It doesn’t take anything away from the impressive physique that he has built but using steroids and competing in natural bodybuilding is extremely weak and dishonest.

Just goes to show he is a person of zero integrity.[/quote]

What happened to innocent untill proven guilty?

Serious everyone is basing the guys ‘integrity’ does anyone have any proof?

Does anyone know the guy? Anyone trained with him? Anyone checked his ass?

Seems everyone throws the steroid card around when they are smaller and weaker than the person in question. [/quote]

Bottomline: All men are NOT created equally![/quote]

Exactly. Most of these guys accusing him of using wouldn’t look like that no matter what they took. The same idiots who think it is completely impossible for anyone to gain more than .5 lbs of muscle every month.

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[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
It doesn’t take anything away from the impressive physique that he has built but using steroids and competing in natural bodybuilding is extremely weak and dishonest.

Just goes to show he is a person of zero integrity.[/quote]

What happened to innocent untill proven guilty?

Seriously? everyone is bashing the guys ‘integrity’ does anyone have any proof?

Does anyone know the guy? Anyone trained with him? Anyone checked his ass?

Seems everyone throws the steroid card around when they are smaller and weaker than the person in question. [/quote]

QFT.

It’s pointless to argue this either way.

If he doesn’t use, then I hope he does in the future. I’d like to see how far he could go with his genetics.

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[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
It doesn’t take anything away from the impressive physique that he has built but using steroids and competing in natural bodybuilding is extremely weak and dishonest.

Just goes to show he is a person of zero integrity.[/quote]

What happened to innocent untill proven guilty?

Serious everyone is basing the guys ‘integrity’ does anyone have any proof?

Does anyone know the guy? Anyone trained with him? Anyone checked his ass?

Seems everyone throws the steroid card around when they are smaller and weaker than the person in question. [/quote]

I’m pretty sure EVERYONE here is smaller and weaker than that guy…

Don’t be naive. Do you really think a human being can look like that wihout AAS, hormones, slin, etc?[/quote]

Jeff Willet?
Jim Cordova?
Layne Norton?

Genetics play a huge part.

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[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
It doesn’t take anything away from the impressive physique that he has built but using steroids and competing in natural bodybuilding is extremely weak and dishonest.

Just goes to show he is a person of zero integrity.[/quote]

What happened to innocent untill proven guilty?

Serious everyone is basing the guys ‘integrity’ does anyone have any proof?

Does anyone know the guy? Anyone trained with him? Anyone checked his ass?

Seems everyone throws the steroid card around when they are smaller and weaker than the person in question. [/quote]

I’m pretty sure EVERYONE here is smaller and weaker than that guy…

Don’t be naive. Do you really think a human being can look like that wihout AAS, hormones, slin, etc?[/quote]

Do you claim to know all 7 billion+ human beings on this planet?

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I think i read somewhere that he competed in musclemania a natural UK bodybuilding show.

From their site:

Because the Musclemania World Championships and Figure Universe are natural bodybuilding and ladies figure events, at the discretion of each regional event promoter, the Top 5 Finalists in each Division or Weight Class may be subject to a drug test by urinalysis and/or polygraph methods immediately following their performance at the Finals. At the America, World and Universe Championships, all competitors will be asked to provide a urine sample and be subjected to thorough urinalysis testing. Attached is a complete list of substances which will be included. If a contestant is tested positive for any of the listed substances, the he/she will be disqualified from the competition, forfeit any prizes and/or rewards and be unable to compete in any Musclemania or Figure Universe event worldwide for at least 2 years. Also, if a contestant refuses to submit to drug testing or attempts to manipulate and/or alter the a urinalysis sample, then he/she will be immediately disqualified from the competition.

musclemania.com/drugtest.htm

Follow the link for the drugs they test for.

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[quote]In10s wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
It doesn’t take anything away from the impressive physique that he has built but using steroids and competing in natural bodybuilding is extremely weak and dishonest.

Just goes to show he is a person of zero integrity.[/quote]

What happened to innocent untill proven guilty?

Serious everyone is basing the guys ‘integrity’ does anyone have any proof?

Does anyone know the guy? Anyone trained with him? Anyone checked his ass?

Seems everyone throws the steroid card around when they are smaller and weaker than the person in question. [/quote]

I’m pretty sure EVERYONE here is smaller and weaker than that guy…

Don’t be naive. Do you really think a human being can look like that wihout AAS, hormones, slin, etc?[/quote]

Do you claim to know all 7 billion+ human beings on this planet?[/quote]

Do you claim to have common sense and not be a gullable fuck?

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[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
It doesn’t take anything away from the impressive physique that he has built but using steroids and competing in natural bodybuilding is extremely weak and dishonest.

Just goes to show he is a person of zero integrity.[/quote]

What happened to innocent untill proven guilty?

Serious everyone is basing the guys ‘integrity’ does anyone have any proof?

Does anyone know the guy? Anyone trained with him? Anyone checked his ass?

Seems everyone throws the steroid card around when they are smaller and weaker than the person in question. [/quote]

I’m pretty sure EVERYONE here is smaller and weaker than that guy…

Don’t be naive. Do you really think a human being can look like that wihout AAS, hormones, slin, etc?[/quote]

Jeff Willet?
Jim Cordova?
Layne Norton?

Genetics play a huge part. [/quote]

jeff willet natty hahaha isnt he an IFBB pro. this mans physique is not natural you dont have to train with him to know this lol, its people like you that turn these threads into a steroid debate with your “oh its just hard work and genetics” FUCKING BULLSHIT. how are people on this website so gullable.

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[quote]Marzouk wrote:
I think i read somewhere that he competed in musclemania a natural UK bodybuilding show.

From their site:

Because the Musclemania World Championships and Figure Universe are natural bodybuilding and ladies figure events, at the discretion of each regional event promoter, the Top 5 Finalists in each Division or Weight Class may be subject to a drug test by urinalysis and/or polygraph methods immediately following their performance at the Finals. At the America, World and Universe Championships, all competitors will be asked to provide a urine sample and be subjected to thorough urinalysis testing. Attached is a complete list of substances which will be included. If a contestant is tested positive for any of the listed substances, the he/she will be disqualified from the competition, forfeit any prizes and/or rewards and be unable to compete in any Musclemania or Figure Universe event worldwide for at least 2 years. Also, if a contestant refuses to submit to drug testing or attempts to manipulate and/or alter the a urinalysis sample, then he/she will be immediately disqualified from the competition.

musclemania.com/drugtest.htm

Follow the link for the drugs they test for. [/quote]

just because he past a drug test for that show doesnt mean he is a lifetime natty, also was every single competitor drug tested? lastly you do realise you can plan cycles so that they wont show up in a drug test.

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[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]In10s wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
It doesn’t take anything away from the impressive physique that he has built but using steroids and competing in natural bodybuilding is extremely weak and dishonest.

Just goes to show he is a person of zero integrity.[/quote]

What happened to innocent untill proven guilty?

Serious everyone is basing the guys ‘integrity’ does anyone have any proof?

Does anyone know the guy? Anyone trained with him? Anyone checked his ass?

Seems everyone throws the steroid card around when they are smaller and weaker than the person in question. [/quote]

I’m pretty sure EVERYONE here is smaller and weaker than that guy…

Don’t be naive. Do you really think a human being can look like that wihout AAS, hormones, slin, etc?[/quote]

Do you claim to know all 7 billion+ human beings on this planet?[/quote]

Do you claim to have common sense and not be a gullable fuck?
[/quote]

I claim you’re a genetically inferior piece of shit who feels he is entitled to “look like that” but can’t achieve a fraction of it so therefore the MUST BE THE DRUGS card is pulled out.

Look at his pic moron! The dude has: 1) A small crainium (accentuating his body size) 2) Long muslce bellies which, in addition to being fully developed, obviously have a favorable fiber compostion both in terms of type and quantity. 3)Skeletal structure- very long clavicles, SMALL wrist, elbow and knee joints, scapulas set a wide distance apart, a very NARROW pelvic basin. 4) Dark even toned skin 5) Most likely sporting a pump for the pics. 6) West African heritage. All members of all ethnicities can be jacked but the ability to possess a very tiny waist in conjuction with heavy muscluature elsewhere is largely monopolized by those of West African lineage. Not just bodybuilders but other athletes as well. And don’t bring up Frank Zane or Steeve Reeves because, while they had very small waists, they were small everywhere else COMPARED to Panda.

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[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
It doesn’t take anything away from the impressive physique that he has built but using steroids and competing in natural bodybuilding is extremely weak and dishonest.

Just goes to show he is a person of zero integrity.[/quote]

What happened to innocent untill proven guilty?

Serious everyone is basing the guys ‘integrity’ does anyone have any proof?

Does anyone know the guy? Anyone trained with him? Anyone checked his ass?

Seems everyone throws the steroid card around when they are smaller and weaker than the person in question. [/quote]

I’m pretty sure EVERYONE here is smaller and weaker than that guy…

Don’t be naive. Do you really think a human being can look like that wihout AAS, hormones, slin, etc?[/quote]

Jeff Willet?
Jim Cordova?
Layne Norton?

Genetics play a huge part. [/quote]

jeff willet natty hahaha isnt he an IFBB pro. this mans physique is not natural you dont have to train with him to know this lol, its people like you that turn these threads into a steroid debate with your “oh its just hard work and genetics” FUCKING BULLSHIT. how are people on this website so gullable.[/quote]

You forgot the other two.

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[quote]In10s wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]In10s wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
It doesn’t take anything away from the impressive physique that he has built but using steroids and competing in natural bodybuilding is extremely weak and dishonest.

Just goes to show he is a person of zero integrity.[/quote]

What happened to innocent untill proven guilty?

Serious everyone is basing the guys ‘integrity’ does anyone have any proof?

Does anyone know the guy? Anyone trained with him? Anyone checked his ass?

Seems everyone throws the steroid card around when they are smaller and weaker than the person in question. [/quote]

I’m pretty sure EVERYONE here is smaller and weaker than that guy…

Don’t be naive. Do you really think a human being can look like that wihout AAS, hormones, slin, etc?[/quote]

Do you claim to know all 7 billion+ human beings on this planet?[/quote]

Do you claim to have common sense and not be a gullable fuck?
[/quote]

I claim you’re a genetically inferior piece of shit who feels he is entitled to “look like that” but can’t achieve a fraction of it so therefore the MUST BE THE DRUGS card is pulled out.

Look at his pic moron! The dude has: 1) A small crainium (accentuating his body size) 2) Long muslce bellies which, in addition to being fully developed, obviously have a favorable fiber compostion both in terms of type and quantity. 3)Skeletal structure- very long clavicles, SMALL wrist, elbow and knee joints, scapulas set a wide distance apart, a very NARROW pelvic basin. 4) Dark even toned skin 5) Most likely sporting a pump for the pics. 6) West African heritage. All members of all ethnicities can be jacked but the ability to possess a very tiny waist in conjuction with heavy muscluature elsewhere is largely monopolized by those of West African lineage. Not just bodybuilders but other athletes as well. And don’t bring up Frank Zane or Steeve Reeves because, while they had very small waists, they were small everywhere else COMPARED to Panda.

[/quote]

First of all, I am willing to bet I am farrrrr genetically superior to you Faggot. I have a feeling you have a mediocre physique at best, but bc you are “natty bro” you’re super proud of it. So you troll around froums talking shit and throwing out all kinds of facts which are great…but don’t change the fact that you yourself have a half assed body that you sadly worked pretty hard to get lol.

I never said one negative thing about that guys physique…I admire it very much. He is a genetic freak and deserves nothing but praise for achievingsuch an insane look. I just said he did not do it naturally…which is the general opinion here.

I don’t feel entitled to anything, I work very hard for what I have. And if you weren’t behind a computer, you wouldn’t be spouting out your tough guy/know it all bullshit to anyone like myself. Anyone can be a cool guy behind a monitor lol.

So maybe you should take your aggression out somewhere else…perhaps the gym? Or you can continue to spend a copious amount of time defending some guy who you’ve never met but obviously have a hard on for.

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[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]In10s wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]In10s wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
It doesn’t take anything away from the impressive physique that he has built but using steroids and competing in natural bodybuilding is extremely weak and dishonest.

Just goes to show he is a person of zero integrity.[/quote]

What happened to innocent untill proven guilty?

Serious everyone is basing the guys ‘integrity’ does anyone have any proof?

Does anyone know the guy? Anyone trained with him? Anyone checked his ass?

Seems everyone throws the steroid card around when they are smaller and weaker than the person in question. [/quote]

I’m pretty sure EVERYONE here is smaller and weaker than that guy…

Don’t be naive. Do you really think a human being can look like that wihout AAS, hormones, slin, etc?[/quote]

Do you claim to know all 7 billion+ human beings on this planet?[/quote]

Do you claim to have common sense and not be a gullable fuck?
[/quote]

I claim you’re a genetically inferior piece of shit who feels he is entitled to “look like that” but can’t achieve a fraction of it so therefore the MUST BE THE DRUGS card is pulled out.

Look at his pic moron! The dude has: 1) A small crainium (accentuating his body size) 2) Long muslce bellies which, in addition to being fully developed, obviously have a favorable fiber compostion both in terms of type and quantity. 3)Skeletal structure- very long clavicles, SMALL wrist, elbow and knee joints, scapulas set a wide distance apart, a very NARROW pelvic basin. 4) Dark even toned skin 5) Most likely sporting a pump for the pics. 6) West African heritage. All members of all ethnicities can be jacked but the ability to possess a very tiny waist in conjuction with heavy muscluature elsewhere is largely monopolized by those of West African lineage. Not just bodybuilders but other athletes as well. And don’t bring up Frank Zane or Steeve Reeves because, while they had very small waists, they were small everywhere else COMPARED to Panda.

[/quote]

First of all, I am willing to bet I am farrrrr genetically superior to you Faggot. I have a feeling you have a mediocre physique at best, but bc you are “natty bro” you’re super proud of it. So you troll around froums talking shit and throwing out all kinds of facts which are great…but don’t change the fact that you yourself have a half assed body that you sadly worked pretty hard to get lol.

I never said one negative thing about that guys physique…I admire it very much. He is a genetic freak and deserves nothing but praise for achievingsuch an insane look. I just said he did not do it naturally…which is the general opinion here.

I don’t feel entitled to anything, I work very hard for what I have. And if you weren’t behind a computer, you wouldn’t be spouting out your tough guy/know it all bullshit to anyone like myself. Anyone can be a cool guy behind a monitor lol.

So maybe you should take your aggression out somewhere else…perhaps the gym? Or you can continue to spend a copious amount of time defending some guy who you’ve never met but obviously have a hard on for.
[/quote]

“Spouting out your tough guy/know it all bullshit” - If that is all you can mentally process from my above post then, well like I said…Moron.

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I think it is the repeated misspelling of the word gullible that irks me most about this thread.

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@ In10s- The six factors you listed (I would also add symmetry) are valid points and play a major role in how someone’s physique will appear.

I like to give those who espouse their drug-free status the benefit of the doubt unless proven otherwise. Either way I think we can all agree that he picked his parents!

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
It doesn’t take anything away from the impressive physique that he has built but using steroids and competing in natural bodybuilding is extremely weak and dishonest.

Just goes to show he is a person of zero integrity.[/quote]

What happened to innocent untill proven guilty?

Serious everyone is basing the guys ‘integrity’ does anyone have any proof?

Does anyone know the guy? Anyone trained with him? Anyone checked his ass?

Seems everyone throws the steroid card around when they are smaller and weaker than the person in question. [/quote]

I’m pretty sure EVERYONE here is smaller and weaker than that guy…

Don’t be naive. Do you really think a human being can look like that wihout AAS, hormones, slin, etc?[/quote]

Jeff Willet?
Jim Cordova?
Layne Norton?

Genetics play a huge part. [/quote]

jeff willet natty hahaha isnt he an IFBB pro. this mans physique is not natural you dont have to train with him to know this lol, its people like you that turn these threads into a steroid debate with your “oh its just hard work and genetics” FUCKING BULLSHIT. how are people on this website so gullable.[/quote]

You forgot the other two.[/quote]

lol what about the other 2 neither for them are as big as this guy. i know genetics matter, this guy has sick genetics but if think his natural then you are delusional. also lol at all the people saying that the people that are calling him out are just jealous and that we all have shit physiques. its alright keep living in your little bubble, then you will wonder why after 10 years of training natty you look nothing like this. i cant believe how gullible some people on this sight are derrrr jef willet and ronnie coleman say there natty so they must be.

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lol there’s plenty of african kids with small bone structure who workout regularly
they look nothing like this
to put things in perspective his physique could challenge Arnold’s
look at his transformation its more than simply getting a pump before a pic lol
I dont even buy that he was a natural in the first pic but the transformation with declining test natural test levels is impossible
how old is he

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i think you guys are great

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also, he said he’s never used steroids…

he never said anything about GH, insulin, DNP, clen, t3 etc… lol

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
also, he said he’s never used steroids…

he never said anything about GH, insulin, DNP, clen, t3 etc… lol[/quote]

good point haha

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I think people under estimate what can be done naturally.

The guy is 6’1 ffs.