Silva vs. Belfort

Bigger Stronger Leaner
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Luck is some arbitrary turn of events that ended up in your favor. For example if Vitor was going for a kick and he slips and then Silva pounces and wins, unlucky. Or if Silva pulled his shorts or grabbed the cage and the ref didn’t see it and that turned out to be decisive, wow lucky for Silva. Or even a more debatable situation, say if Silva was losing and in the last seconds of the fight is just swinging wildly and connects, getting a KO as the bell rings, lucky punch. Those situations to varying degrees are luck.

Throwing a front head kick, it landing and rocking your opponent is not luck…If it is, then what isnt?

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Props to Silva for that devastating KO last night. If you heard Belfort after the fight he said that Silva faked the kick to the body and then brought it up. What can anyone say but a great win for a great champion. I still don’t like the guy, but I must give credit where it is due. Otherwise, I’d sound like the brainless drones who when their guy loses go into excuse mode. And that is no way to live. I would advise GSP to stay at ww.

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[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
BTW sorry if I came off as a dick I’m just excited… [/quote]

LOL—My dick detector didn’t even go off…wait that didn’t sound right.

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Though Zeb’s dick detector is more of a pious gaydar, it still can be correct once upon a time, just like a broken clock.
No douchebaggery whatsoever detected, Xen and btw, I’m also stunned still by Silva’s performance.
Damn, I had Belfort as a favorite.

However, I find the disussion about what kind of kick that was a bit frustrating and tiresome.

If you broadly categorize all frontkicks together, then that was a frontkick. No problem.
If you go by style, then all bets are off, since even the dozens of Karate styles know quite a lot of (mostly unofficial) variations and it becomes a nearly philosophical question.

What matters is: Anderson, this hero of the octagon, son of mars, defeated Belfort early in the first round by an effortlessly executed kick to the head.

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I couldn’t help myself but read who won when I got to work this morning. When it said silva by front kick, I had to see it.

That kick was perfect. Threw it like a well placed weapon. Watched it several times in the motion, right under the chin, didnt see it coming, incredible.

I’d still have liked to of seen this at 205. Silva always knocks people out in ways I dont expect, and FML he does it again.

Silva vs GSP will be interesting.

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[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Though Zeb’s dick detector is more of a pious gaydar, it still can be correct once upon a time, just like a broken clock.
.[/quote]

Okay, now it’s going off.

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[quote]Ben_VFR85 wrote:
I couldn’t help myself but read who won when I got to work this morning. When it said silva by front kick, I had to see it.

That kick was perfect. Threw it like a well placed weapon. Watched it several times in the motion, right under the chin, didnt see it coming, incredible.

I’d still have liked to of seen this at 205. Silva always knocks people out in ways I dont expect, and FML he does it again.

Silva vs GSP will be interesting.[/quote]

If it happens

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[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
My personal thoughts are…Silva got lucky.
I know that sounds lame, Silva is a bad ass and highly technical.
I don’t think he expected that to land or knock Belfort out, I don’t think it is a demosntration of total over power by Silva.
I think Silva may have won the fight had it not been for that kick, but from my pov, Belfort got fucked by luck.
This would have gone as long as far as Chael Sonnen had it not been for that headshot luck.

This is karma biting Belfort in the ass for that lucky shyt he pulled on Wanderlei Silva in 98.
Watch that fight, and u’ll know what I’m talking about.
World class fighter, appearing totally ‘out classed’ because of sufficient skill and the planetary alignments of blind luck.
Luck is part of the game tho, it’s a clean win.[/quote]

Silva has a way of making his own luck. I don’t particularly like the guy, he seems like an ass but he can fight. Wow.

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[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
My personal thoughts are…Silva got lucky.
I know that sounds lame, Silva is a bad ass and highly technical.
I don’t think he expected that to land or knock Belfort out, I don’t think it is a demosntration of total over power by Silva.
I think Silva may have won the fight had it not been for that kick, but from my pov, Belfort got fucked by luck.
This would have gone as long as far as Chael Sonnen had it not been for that headshot luck.

This is karma biting Belfort in the ass for that lucky shyt he pulled on Wanderlei Silva in 98.
Watch that fight, and u’ll know what I’m talking about.
World class fighter, appearing totally ‘out classed’ because of sufficient skill and the planetary alignments of blind luck.
Luck is part of the game tho, it’s a clean win.[/quote]

â??The more I train… the luckier I get! â??

  • Renzo Gracie
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[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:

However, I find the disussion about what kind of kick that was a bit frustrating and tiresome.

If you broadly categorize all frontkicks together, then that was a frontkick. No problem.
If you go by style, then all bets are off, since even the dozens of Karate styles know quite a lot of (mostly unofficial) variations and it becomes a nearly philosophical question.

[/quote]

IMO it’s obvious that the front kick was actually not a teep but rather it was influenced by the training of none other than Sensei Segal. Vitor Belfort was marked for death the moment that he stepped on deadly ground with Anderson Silva. A teep is designed to keep you out of reach but the front snap kick is always designed to be out for a kill. Once the executive decision was made for Belfort to fight silva he was thrown into the belly of the beast and was marked for death. It doesn’t surprise me at all that with the aid of the glimmer man Sensei Segal that Silva was able to hit the kill switch leaving Belfortpistol whipped and half past dead.

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LOL@ lucky

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don’t let your hate blind you lol

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I am late to the dance but this was a fantastic post Xen.

[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
Wow wtf were you guys watching…I watched him (A.Silva) steal Forrest Griffin’s soul, Jedi-Mind trick Patrick Cote, walk through a bigger/stronger nate marquardt and…

Previously his “weakness” was his grappling, so they give him one of the best Sub guys in his division… Travis Lutter, whom yes mounted him, but he beat him. What I saw was anderson outgrapple someone who should have DEMOLISHED him on the ground. A BJJ Blackbelt and highly rated competitor had him IN THE MOUNT one of the most dominant positions and STILL couldn’t beat him. As a matter of fact couldn’t finish him from that position or any!

Then apparently wrestling was his weakness so they fed Anderson Silva to Dan Henderson… not only a wrestling monster…in fact one of the most decorated wrestlers in MMA… but also a man with iron in his hands. He COULD have knocked Anderson flat the fuck out. He successfully gave anderson a noogie for 4 minutes and covered his mouth on some 3rd grade shit. Then he got out grappled, out struck, his takedowns defended, and choked the fuck out.

Demian Maia got fucking embarassed because he couldn’t even touch silva. Anderson gave a masterful display of timing, control, and range meanwhile Maia refused to engage, has no takedowns, and would rather flop to his ass, spread his legs like Tory Lane, and expect silva to dive in. I can admit, a lackluster fight, but ONLY in comparison to what we’re used to seeing from Anderson Silva. There are MUCH more boring fighters.

Sonnen launched a whole fucking twitter campaign and where the fuck is he now? Everyone wants to act like he “exposed” something about anderson. Arguably he’s done the best against him and kudos to Chael but he still got choked the fuck out in a triangle no less when this stellar wrestler should have been pounding the shit out of him with vicious GnP. They’ve thrown everyone at Anderson that SHOULD beat him. “I’m gonna keep the pressure on him, I’m gonna do what no one else does” is what Chael said… guess what. HE DID IT! HE EXECUTED HIS PLAN! BUT IT DIDN"T FUCKING MATTER!!! Remember the Spider…

Vitor’s getting an EARLY shot because he’s the only one in the division left that has a chance in hell.

In the Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfort fight, we have something the UFC is beginning to do quite a bit lately: give a fighter a fight based on his marketability instead of for his work and contender status. Belfort’s first-and most recent- fight back in the UFC was 16 months ago against Rich Franklin. Based on one fight, almost a year and a half ago, he earned a title shot? Hogwash. Guys like Alan Belcher, Tim Credeur, CB Dollaway, Demian Maia, Jorge Rivera, Yushin Okami and Bisping have won far more fights and been far busier and deserve a title shot before Belfort. How many times does Bisping have to fight in the UFC to get a title shot? Since 2006 he’s fought 13 times in the UFC and hasn’t received a single title shot. He’s been campaigning at Middleweight for years, stringing together wins over top opponents, yet Vitor Belfort wins one fight and he gets a title shot? Sixteen months ago at that? Something is rotten in Denmark.

Regardless, this fight should showcase the hypocrisy behind the match-up, when Silva unleashes destruction upon the undeserving challenger. I don’t see this as anything other than a mismatch. Belfort has the first minute or two to pull off the upset before things begin to go characteristically downhill. When things don’t go Belfort’s way he becomes lethargic in the ring. Silva has the speed, agility, reflexes, tenacity, heart and willpower to blow Belfort out of the water. If Belfort wins, and he very well CAN, I’ll be the first to eat crow, but I don’t see how he does beyond a hail Mary punch.

This coming from someone that genuinely LIKES Vitor.

But fuck that, kill the playboy.

WAR SILVA![/quote]

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[quote]Xen Nova wrote:

[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
My personal thoughts are…Silva got lucky.
I know that sounds lame, Silva is a bad ass and highly technical.
I don’t think he expected that to land or knock Belfort out, I don’t think it is a demosntration of total over power by Silva.
I think Silva may have won the fight had it not been for that kick, but from my pov, Belfort got fucked by luck.
This would have gone as long as far as Chael Sonnen had it not been for that headshot luck.

This is karma biting Belfort in the ass for that lucky shyt he pulled on Wanderlei Silva in 98.
Watch that fight, and u’ll know what I’m talking about.
World class fighter, appearing totally ‘out classed’ because of sufficient skill and the planetary alignments of blind luck.
Luck is part of the game tho, it’s a clean win.[/quote]

Ã?¢??The more I train… the luckier I get! Ã?¢??

  • Renzo Gracie
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And that comes from the Thomas Jefferson quote:

“I am a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it.”

(In case anyone cares - and they probably don’t)

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
BTW sorry if I came off as a dick I’m just excited… [/quote]

LOL—My dick detector didn’t even go off…wait that didn’t sound right.
[/quote]

And ZEB caused me to spit coffee on my keyboard. I needed the laugh. Thank you sir.

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[quote]Xen Nova wrote:

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:

However, I find the disussion about what kind of kick that was a bit frustrating and tiresome.

If you broadly categorize all frontkicks together, then that was a frontkick. No problem.
If you go by style, then all bets are off, since even the dozens of Karate styles know quite a lot of (mostly unofficial) variations and it becomes a nearly philosophical question.

[/quote]

IMO it’s obvious that the front kick was actually not a teep but rather it was influenced by the training of none other than Sensei Segal. Vitor Belfort was marked for death the moment that he stepped on deadly ground with Anderson Silva. A teep is designed to keep you out of reach but the front snap kick is always designed to be out for a kill. Once the executive decision was made for Belfort to fight silva he was thrown into the belly of the beast and was marked for death. It doesn’t surprise me at all that with the aid of the glimmer man Sensei Segal that Silva was able to hit the kill switch leaving Belfortpistol whipped and half past dead.

[/quote]

Did you have to IMDb those movie titles or was that from memory? Wathcing the fight with friends I wondered aloud if that was the same technique Seagal used on Kelly LebBrock.

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That’s what Vitor gets for being a jackass and trying to standup with silva.

Hopefully GSP isn’t as stupid as Vitor is. Chael Sonnen showed everyone Silva’s weakness. Why the fuck didn’t vitor try taking it to the ground?

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[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
LOL@ lucky[/quote]

This

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@Sliver: He tried. The KO was just after a TD, that Anderson jumped up from like it never happened.