Silva vs. Belfort

Bigger Stronger Leaner
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[quote]LoganV wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
I watched Chael Sonnen slap him around for 4 1/2. I watched Travis Lutter mount him. I watched Dan Henderson almost choke him out. I’ve watched him taken down many times. And I watched Silva act like a 3rd grader against Demian Maia. He’s very beatable. Maybe Belfort will do it, maybe he won’t. Either way Silva is beatable it’s just a matter of who and when. [/quote]

Remind me who won those fights?[/quote]

The point is he’s vulnerable. He’s not the kind of champion that is as nearly untouchable as the UFC hype machine makes him out to be.

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Wow wtf were you guys watching…I watched him (A.Silva) steal Forrest Griffin’s soul, Jedi-Mind trick Patrick Cote, walk through a bigger/stronger nate marquardt and…

Previously his “weakness” was his grappling, so they give him one of the best Sub guys in his division… Travis Lutter, whom yes mounted him, but he beat him. What I saw was anderson outgrapple someone who should have DEMOLISHED him on the ground. A BJJ Blackbelt and highly rated competitor had him IN THE MOUNT one of the most dominant positions and STILL couldn’t beat him. As a matter of fact couldn’t finish him from that position or any!

Then apparently wrestling was his weakness so they fed Anderson Silva to Dan Henderson… not only a wrestling monster…in fact one of the most decorated wrestlers in MMA… but also a man with iron in his hands. He COULD have knocked Anderson flat the fuck out. He successfully gave anderson a noogie for 4 minutes and covered his mouth on some 3rd grade shit. Then he got out grappled, out struck, his takedowns defended, and choked the fuck out.

Demian Maia got fucking embarassed because he couldn’t even touch silva. Anderson gave a masterful display of timing, control, and range meanwhile Maia refused to engage, has no takedowns, and would rather flop to his ass, spread his legs like Tory Lane, and expect silva to dive in. I can admit, a lackluster fight, but ONLY in comparison to what we’re used to seeing from Anderson Silva. There are MUCH more boring fighters.

Sonnen launched a whole fucking twitter campaign and where the fuck is he now? Everyone wants to act like he “exposed” something about anderson. Arguably he’s done the best against him and kudos to Chael but he still got choked the fuck out in a triangle no less when this stellar wrestler should have been pounding the shit out of him with vicious GnP. They’ve thrown everyone at Anderson that SHOULD beat him. “I’m gonna keep the pressure on him, I’m gonna do what no one else does” is what Chael said… guess what. HE DID IT! HE EXECUTED HIS PLAN! BUT IT DIDN"T FUCKING MATTER!!! Remember the Spider…

Vitor’s getting an EARLY shot because he’s the only one in the division left that has a chance in hell.

In the Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfort fight, we have something the UFC is beginning to do quite a bit lately: give a fighter a fight based on his marketability instead of for his work and contender status. Belfort’s first-and most recent- fight back in the UFC was 16 months ago against Rich Franklin. Based on one fight, almost a year and a half ago, he earned a title shot? Hogwash. Guys like Alan Belcher, Tim Credeur, CB Dollaway, Demian Maia, Jorge Rivera, Yushin Okami and Bisping have won far more fights and been far busier and deserve a title shot before Belfort. How many times does Bisping have to fight in the UFC to get a title shot? Since 2006 he’s fought 13 times in the UFC and hasn’t received a single title shot. He’s been campaigning at Middleweight for years, stringing together wins over top opponents, yet Vitor Belfort wins one fight and he gets a title shot? Sixteen months ago at that? Something is rotten in Denmark.

Regardless, this fight should showcase the hypocrisy behind the match-up, when Silva unleashes destruction upon the undeserving challenger. I don’t see this as anything other than a mismatch. Belfort has the first minute or two to pull off the upset before things begin to go characteristically downhill. When things don’t go Belfort’s way he becomes lethargic in the ring. Silva has the speed, agility, reflexes, tenacity, heart and willpower to blow Belfort out of the water. If Belfort wins, and he very well CAN, I’ll be the first to eat crow, but I don’t see how he does beyond a hail Mary punch.

This coming from someone that genuinely LIKES Vitor.

But fuck that, kill the playboy.

WAR SILVA!

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Start watching around 3:15,

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Oh man gentlemen I can’t fuckin wait…

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I am more excited for this card than I have been in a long time. As bummed as I was to see WEC go, it’s tremendously exciting to see these guys coming out so early.

IRT Silva/Belfort I think Belfort has amazing quickness on his feet and if he can get inside and not get clinched (which I think he is quick enough to do) he could really do some damage to Silva and I think he is probably the best finisher Silva has encountered in UFC so I am going to go with Belfort early. I also think Belfort is tough as hell and can take almost Nogueria like punishment.

I think the longer the fight goes, as history has shown, the more in Silva’s favor it becomes.

I am saying TKO Belfort in the 1st.

Just hoping he doesn’t get over confident and end up getting countered and it turns into a different version of the Leben fight.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]LoganV wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
I watched Chael Sonnen slap him around for 4 1/2. I watched Travis Lutter mount him. I watched Dan Henderson almost choke him out. I’ve watched him taken down many times. And I watched Silva act like a 3rd grader against Demian Maia. He’s very beatable. Maybe Belfort will do it, maybe he won’t. Either way Silva is beatable it’s just a matter of who and when. [/quote]

Remind me who won those fights?[/quote]

The point is he’s vulnerable. He’s not the kind of champion that is as nearly untouchable as the UFC hype machine makes him out to be. [/quote]

Vitor Belfort’s shown 10x more vulnerability through out his career. You take all the bad and act like theres no good. Its like you forget all about what he did to Franklin (twice), Forrest, Leben, Henderson, Irvin and Marquardt.

And who the fuck is really stupid enough to say Dan Henderson nearly choked Silva out? Is that a joke? Did this person even watch the fight? Henderson got stuck in half guard for the better part of the first round and landed a few little rabbit punches. The rest of the fight was all Silva.

And to all the haters, Dana White himself confirmed that Silva had a rib injury going into the Sonnen fight, which one can imagine might make it hard to wrestle for 25 minutes. look it up.

Last thing, people who still bring up Anderson’s losses prior to the UFC need to learn that this is irrelevant information. Those losses happened over half a decade ago. You dont think fighters learn a thing or two in that time?

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]LoganV wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
I watched Chael Sonnen slap him around for 4 1/2. I watched Travis Lutter mount him. I watched Dan Henderson almost choke him out. I’ve watched him taken down many times. And I watched Silva act like a 3rd grader against Demian Maia. He’s very beatable. Maybe Belfort will do it, maybe he won’t. Either way Silva is beatable it’s just a matter of who and when. [/quote]

Remind me who won those fights?[/quote]

The point is he’s vulnerable. He’s not the kind of champion that is as nearly untouchable as the UFC hype machine makes him out to be. [/quote]

Vitor Belfort’s shown 10x more vulnerability through out his career. You take all the bad and act like theres no good. Its like you forget all about what he did to Franklin (twice), Forrest, Leben, Henderson, Irvin and Marquardt.

And who the fuck is really stupid enough to say Dan Henderson nearly choked Silva out? Is that a joke? Did this person even watch the fight? Henderson got stuck in half guard for the better part of the first round and landed a few little rabbit punches. The rest of the fight was all Silva.

And to all the haters, Dana White himself confirmed that Silva had a rib injury going into the Sonnen fight, which one can imagine might make it hard to wrestle for 25 minutes. look it up.

Last thing, people who still bring up Anderson’s losses prior to the UFC need to learn that this is irrelevant information. Those losses happened over half a decade ago. You dont think fighters learn a thing or two in that time?[/quote]

Duh…never said Silva wasn’t good. (eye roll). Just said he’s over hyped by the UFC. I’m not surprised that Dana White said what he said about Silva after the beating he took at the hands of Cael Sonnen. I’m actually surprised that White didn’t say that Silva was castrated before the fight.

Like I said Belfort could steal the crown tonight, or not. But it’s a matter of time before someone does. I don’t think Silva has that many lives left.

“ANYTHING puleease ANYTHING to make my precious p4p prize money hog look good.”

Dana White

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
I am more excited for this card than I have been in a long time. As bummed as I was to see WEC go, it’s tremendously exciting to see these guys coming out so early.

IRT Silva/Belfort I think Belfort has amazing quickness on his feet and if he can get inside and not get clinched (which I think he is quick enough to do) he could really do some damage to Silva and I think he is probably the best finisher Silva has encountered in UFC so I am going to go with Belfort early. I also think Belfort is tough as hell and can take almost Nogueria like punishment.

I think the longer the fight goes, as history has shown, the more in Silva’s favor it becomes.

I am saying TKO Belfort in the 1st.

Just hoping he doesn’t get over confident and end up getting countered and it turns into a different version of the Leben fight.

[/quote]

You might be right 12 of Belforts 19 wins came in the first round.

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BTW sorry if I came off as a dick I’m just excited…

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Would like to have seen this fight at 205. Work in 5 hours, on a sunday… fight best be worth it.

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Damn!!!

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:wink:

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Anderson Silva = Achilles

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XgUh-2vXAbs/TU4xkCmiDzI/AAAAAAAABD8/TQz11Td_1tA/s1600/2.gif

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Thanks for the gif, what a front kick. At the press conference Dana said if he wins, GSP is next…

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My personal thoughts are…Silva got lucky.
I know that sounds lame, Silva is a bad ass and highly technical.
I don’t think he expected that to land or knock Belfort out, I don’t think it is a demosntration of total over power by Silva.
I think Silva may have won the fight had it not been for that kick, but from my pov, Belfort got fucked by luck.
This would have gone as long as far as Chael Sonnen had it not been for that headshot luck.

This is karma biting Belfort in the ass for that lucky shyt he pulled on Wanderlei Silva in 98.
Watch that fight, and u’ll know what I’m talking about.
World class fighter, appearing totally ‘out classed’ because of sufficient skill and the planetary alignments of blind luck.
Luck is part of the game tho, it’s a clean win.

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[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
My personal thoughts are…Silva got lucky.
I know that sounds lame, Silva is a bad ass and highly technical.
I don’t think he expected that to land or knock Belfort out, I don’t think it is a demosntration of total over power by Silva.
I think Silva may have won the fight had it not been for that kick, but from my pov, Belfort got fucked by luck.
This would have gone as long as far as Chael Sonnen had it not been for that headshot luck.

This is karma biting Belfort in the ass for that lucky shyt he pulled on Wanderlei Silva in 98.
Watch that fight, and u’ll know what I’m talking about.
World class fighter, appearing totally ‘out classed’ because of sufficient skill and the planetary alignments of blind luck.
Luck is part of the game tho, it’s a clean win.[/quote]

Luck? Really? Are you serious? He threw the kick Belfort’s face, Belfort didn’t move or make any attempt to block it, and it put him down. Same as when any other KO happens. Now, was this kick something special that Silva came up with, like he implied? Fuck no. It’s a basic tiep, only to the face. Most often, it’s thrown to the body, but if the face shot is there, then fire away. Luck… I guess Jones’s molly-whopping of Bader was just luck? Get real.

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[quote]Beast27195 wrote:

[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
My personal thoughts are…Silva got lucky.
I know that sounds lame, Silva is a bad ass and highly technical.
I don’t think he expected that to land or knock Belfort out, I don’t think it is a demosntration of total over power by Silva.
I think Silva may have won the fight had it not been for that kick, but from my pov, Belfort got fucked by luck.
This would have gone as long as far as Chael Sonnen had it not been for that headshot luck.

This is karma biting Belfort in the ass for that lucky shyt he pulled on Wanderlei Silva in 98.
Watch that fight, and u’ll know what I’m talking about.
World class fighter, appearing totally ‘out classed’ because of sufficient skill and the planetary alignments of blind luck.
Luck is part of the game tho, it’s a clean win.[/quote]

Luck? Really? Are you serious? He threw the kick Belfort’s face, Belfort didn’t move or make any attempt to block it, and it put him down. Same as when any other KO happens. Now, was this kick something special that Silva came up with, like he implied? Fuck no. It’s a basic tiep, only to the face. Most often, it’s thrown to the body, but if the face shot is there, then fire away. Luck… I guess Jones’s molly-whopping of Bader was just luck? Get real.
[/quote]

Word,son.

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SUCK THAT BELFORT!!!

AS WON’T BE STOPPED!

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Beast27195 wrote:

[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
My personal thoughts are…Silva got lucky.
I know that sounds lame, Silva is a bad ass and highly technical.
I don’t think he expected that to land or knock Belfort out, I don’t think it is a demosntration of total over power by Silva.
I think Silva may have won the fight had it not been for that kick, but from my pov, Belfort got fucked by luck.
This would have gone as long as far as Chael Sonnen had it not been for that headshot luck.

This is karma biting Belfort in the ass for that lucky shyt he pulled on Wanderlei Silva in 98.
Watch that fight, and u’ll know what I’m talking about.
World class fighter, appearing totally ‘out classed’ because of sufficient skill and the planetary alignments of blind luck.
Luck is part of the game tho, it’s a clean win.[/quote]

Luck? Really? Are you serious? He threw the kick Belfort’s face, Belfort didn’t move or make any attempt to block it, and it put him down. Same as when any other KO happens. Now, was this kick something special that Silva came up with, like he implied? Fuck no. It’s a basic tiep, only to the face. Most often, it’s thrown to the body, but if the face shot is there, then fire away. Luck… I guess Jones’s molly-whopping of Bader was just luck? Get real.
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Word,son.[/quote]

LOL was Zeb the one saying how awesome Lesnar was too. Oh you haterz, keep hating and making me laugh.

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[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
My personal thoughts are…Silva got lucky.
I know that sounds lame, Silva is a bad ass and highly technical.
I don’t think he expected that to land or knock Belfort out, I don’t think it is a demosntration of total over power by Silva.
I think Silva may have won the fight had it not been for that kick, but from my pov, Belfort got fucked by luck.
This would have gone as long as far as Chael Sonnen had it not been for that headshot luck.

This is karma biting Belfort in the ass for that lucky shyt he pulled on Wanderlei Silva in 98.
Watch that fight, and u’ll know what I’m talking about.
World class fighter, appearing totally ‘out classed’ because of sufficient skill and the planetary alignments of blind luck.
Luck is part of the game tho, it’s a clean win.[/quote]

Youre an idiot. Everything about the way SIlva threw that kick tells me he threw it with deadly intentions. Luck? Was it luck too when Silva dodged that viciously fast combo from Vitor solely with head movement?

Haters will always hate, but no one in MMA can claim to accomplish what Silva has. Give credit where credit is due.

I said it before in this thread, all Vitor has to offer Silva were fast hands, Silva has every other tool when it comes to standup, and he showed that when he used a front kick as the catalyst for the end of the fight.