I spend tons of time on here, and average 2 hours when I lift.
If you got the time who gives a shit how you spend it? Sure people spend more time than they need to on here, but they want to.
I dont lift because I have to, pop in here just to read what I need to and leave, I enjoy lifting, learning, etc.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
Makavali wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Higher Game wrote:
If you’re in a gym for over an hour, you’re making friends, not muscles.
I thought it was over 45 minutes?
I do 45 minutes for lifting, about 15 for some cardio.
In that case, I’m at the gym for 55 minutes. 5 minutes both sides of lifting for a warm up/down.
I just don’t get the people who spend hours at the gym in a single day and do it 5 days a week. And then they wonder why they aren’t getting anywhere.
Man you guys must have amazing training density. I’m routinely at the gym for 2 hours. Turns out doing it this way I gained 70 lbs since I started training. I guess I must be doing something wrong, because there’s no way in hell I could complete my training sessions in 45 minutes. Especially max effort days.
How much do you weigh now? Let’s put that 70lbs into context. After reading about how one other poster had parents who wanted to keep him below the BMI while he was growing up (which was why he weighed 120lbs), I am not that impressed with just random numbers.
I am not saying what you are doing isn’t working. I have known people who seemed to grow well from extended training sessions (assuming you aren’t adding in cardio time), but there aren’t many…unless they reduced their training frequency to 3 days a week.
I have doubts that anyone truly NEEDS to spend 2 hours in the gym to make optimal progress. Most people who do this are joking around for an additional 30-40min every workout or lack any real focus while training.[/quote]
I currently weigh 230.
I’m not doing any cardio right now. I generally stay a few pounds lighter than this. I’m also training for maximal strength. I will compete in either the 198s or the 220s this year. And I don’t talk to anybody when I’m training.
My point was that the 1 hour hard limit on gym time is dumb. There are a lot of reasons why you could be in the gym for longer that don’t involve cardio or talking. The most common one is probably maximal strength goals, or olympic lifting, or strongman training, or whole body max strength training, technical sparring, mat time, whatever.
[quote]MsM wrote:
will to power wrote:
MsM wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
Makavali wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Higher Game wrote:
If you’re in a gym for over an hour, you’re making friends, not muscles.
I thought it was over 45 minutes?
I do 45 minutes for lifting, about 15 for some cardio.
In that case, I’m at the gym for 55 minutes. 5 minutes both sides of lifting for a warm up/down.
I just don’t get the people who spend hours at the gym in a single day and do it 5 days a week. And then they wonder why they aren’t getting anywhere.
Man you guys must have amazing training density. I’m routinely at the gym for 2 hours. Turns out doing it this way I gained 70 lbs since I started training. I guess I must be doing something wrong, because there’s no way in hell I could complete my training sessions in 45 minutes. Especially max effort days.
Just thinking the same thing. Two hours is about how long I spend on ME days as well. I don’t think that’s excessive or out of the ordinary either, Aragorn.
It sounds like you two are training on a powerlifting template. Rest periods in particular are very different compared to bodybuilding style programs for various reasons. The original comment I believed was directed at people who are in there for so long because they are either chatting so much or because they are using pump style workouts.
I think you are correct with that assumption as well. I do, as well as Aragorn (I believe), train for different goals. Believing also that the original comment was geared towards more of a bodybuilding style layout, I was just throwing in a reminder that different training goals require different amounts of time at the gym. Yes, a lot of it is recovery time between singles. I do know of the chatty people you speak of though.
I would’ve elaborated more but I have to get to work![/quote]
You are both correct. That’s what I was trying to do MsM. My main point was that a hard limit irrespective of training goals is the dumbest thing ever. I know that many bodybuilders train under 1 hour, but I took the original post to be more of a blanket statement.
[quote]streamline wrote:
I just got back from the gym. Had a great workout, got an awesome pump on this now 172lb bitch’n body. I’m kind of sad there’s some 160lb skateboarder on this site taken the heat. Cause this now 172lb skater with a really bitch’n body was enjoying all that attention. I guess when I hit one eighty no will even notice I’m here. Almost makes me want to lose weight. Well I’m hungry AGAIN! so I have to go eat.[/quote]
I do hereby request, of the first person able to get to my house, that they cull me from the herd if I ever refer to my body as “bitch’n”.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
streamline wrote:
I just got back from the gym. Had a great workout, got an awesome pump on this now 172lb bitch’n body. I’m kind of sad there’s some 160lb skateboarder on this site taken the heat. Cause this now 172lb skater with a really bitch’n body was enjoying all that attention. I guess when I hit one eighty no will even notice I’m here. Almost makes me want to lose weight. Well I’m hungry AGAIN! so I have to go eat.
I do hereby request, of the first person able to get to my house, that they cull me from the herd if I ever refer to my body as “bitch’n”.[/quote]
That was sarcasm, in case you have miss the sarcastic comments that come my way due to my lack of body size. Not that I give a shit that others refer to my composition in feminine manner. Which I’m sure the skateboarder comment earlier on this thread was at least in part directed my way.
To top it off a little more, my workouts last as long as 1 1/2 hours to less than 1/2 hour without cardio. I workout alone, with 30-60 second rest periods. I guess it all depends on what you’re trying to achieve.
[quote]streamline wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
streamline wrote:
I just got back from the gym. Had a great workout, got an awesome pump on this now 172lb bitch’n body. I’m kind of sad there’s some 160lb skateboarder on this site taken the heat. Cause this now 172lb skater with a really bitch’n body was enjoying all that attention. I guess when I hit one eighty no will even notice I’m here. Almost makes me want to lose weight. Well I’m hungry AGAIN! so I have to go eat.
I do hereby request, of the first person able to get to my house, that they cull me from the herd if I ever refer to my body as “bitch’n”.
That was sarcasm, in case you have miss the sarcastic comments that come my way due to my lack of body size. Not that I give a shit that others refer to my composition in feminine manner. Which I’m sure the skateboarder comment earlier on this thread was at least in part directed my way.
To top it off a little more, my workouts last as long as 1 1/2 hours to less than 1/2 hour without cardio. I workout alone, with 30-60 second rest periods. I guess it all depends on what you’re trying to achieve.[/quote]
And you don’t recognize a little returned in kind?
BTW, the guy who made the comment about the 160 lb skater was being serious and as difficult as this may be for you to believe, he wasn’t referring to you at all.
Don’t be so damn hyper sensitive. Nobody really cares what anybody wants to do until they start making pronouncements about the pointlessness of somebody daring to have a desire for size in the bodybuilding forum of all ridiculous places.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
<<< Hell, just tell what the fuck “truly functional mass” is. >>>[/quote]
Whatever mass the person making the comment already has. This is getting ridiculous. Does anybody believe most of these guys are avoiding size because it’s more “functional”?
To this Streamline guy, who is going to say a man your age in the shape your in is a bad thing? At least unprovoked. Nobody initially chased down your posts and began declaring how idiotic your goals were.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Makavali wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Higher Game wrote:
If you’re in a gym for over an hour, you’re making friends, not muscles.
I thought it was over 45 minutes?
I do 45 minutes for lifting, about 15 for some cardio.
In that case, I’m at the gym for 55 minutes. 5 minutes both sides of lifting for a warm up/down.
I just don’t get the people who spend hours at the gym in a single day and do it 5 days a week. And then they wonder why they aren’t getting anywhere.
Man you guys must have amazing training density. I’m routinely at the gym for 2 hours. Turns out doing it this way I gained 70 lbs since I started training. I guess I must be doing something wrong, because there’s no way in hell I could complete my training sessions in 45 minutes. Especially max effort days.[/quote]
I wish I had that kind of time. I always had more success when I could spend more time in the gym.
I take about 1-4 hours to workout. The one hour is regular training, the four hours is a bunch of guys trying out gear and such. It’s artificially long. If you are using powerlifting gear, you’ll need one or two guys to help get it on and spot you.
Then you might help the other guy out and so on. I average 1-2 at times, but the two is a heavy max day with plenty time to recover between heavy attempts.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Higher Game wrote:
Um, about 95% of people in that thread did say they trained. As for the skateboarders, at least they have an aesthetic goal in mind outside of getting as big as possible, no matter the cost. 160 pounds of truly functional mass is great; earned mass, the kind you get from years of bodybuilding, just doesn’t work as well as your “natural” size, which is important in any sport with weight classes.
Please show me 160 pounds of “truly functional mass”.
Hell, just tell what the fuck “truly functional mass” is.
Jealous little bitch much? [/quote]
Truly functional mass means skinny and weak.
Truly functional mass is only functional until you have to pay someone else to move your fucking furniture.
[quote]GetSwole wrote:
Truly functional mass is only functional until you have to pay someone else to move your fucking furniture.[/quote]
FTW!