Exactly. While I do spend a lot of time getting meals ready and generally “preparing” for a workout, the actual workout takes all of 40-45min at the most.
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My wife and I went and lifted together today. On the way home we had a discussion on how it could possibly take 2 hours to train.
We both were finished in about 35 minutes. And I was limping noticeably when we shut off the lights to go home.
Granted, I have a bunch of equipment that I never have to wait on, but if you can get 10 sets of legs done in 35-40 minutes, how can it take 2 hours to train? I have AADD, so I don’t think I could possibly focus on one task for that long.
Despite having lots of ‘social’ friends and acquaintances that you inevitably acquire, I have only ever made three friends that I would call tight, the kinda guys you could call anytime any hour and they would be there for you. They were all training partners and we went through much together on the gym floor and on the field. I don’t know if it’s easier for men to bond whilst clunking iron, or if it just so happens that certain types gravitate together because they share the same passion, drive and a common goal. Anyone else have this experience?
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Makavali wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Higher Game wrote:
If you’re in a gym for over an hour, you’re making friends, not muscles.
I thought it was over 45 minutes?
I do 45 minutes for lifting, about 15 for some cardio.
In that case, I’m at the gym for 55 minutes. 5 minutes both sides of lifting for a warm up/down.
I just don’t get the people who spend hours at the gym in a single day and do it 5 days a week. And then they wonder why they aren’t getting anywhere.
Man you guys must have amazing training density. I’m routinely at the gym for 2 hours. Turns out doing it this way I gained 70 lbs since I started training. I guess I must be doing something wrong, because there’s no way in hell I could complete my training sessions in 45 minutes. Especially max effort days.[/quote]
How much do you weigh now? Let’s put that 70lbs into context. After reading about how one other poster had parents who wanted to keep him below the BMI while he was growing up (which was why he weighed 120lbs), I am not that impressed with just random numbers.
I am not saying what you are doing isn’t working. I have known people who seemed to grow well from extended training sessions (assuming you aren’t adding in cardio time), but there aren’t many…unless they reduced their training frequency to 3 days a week.
I have doubts that anyone truly NEEDS to spend 2 hours in the gym to make optimal progress. Most people who do this are joking around for an additional 30-40min every workout or lack any real focus while training.
A sizeable percentage of the guys that post on these forums know their shit and have the stats to back it up.
Researching things via the internet and this site have introduced me loads of new forms of training, implements and methods. You have to separate the wheat from the chaff, but good advice is good advice.
In that context, spending time on here is wholly positive.
If you just come to contribute to the Ass Worship thread, you are my personal hero and my right hand thanks you, but yeah, maybe your priorities are out of wack.
What’s the deal with multiple threads on the same topic being started by different people within a short period of time on these forums? Wasn’t there a thread about this like a week ago?
[quote]Malevolence wrote:
What’s the deal with multiple threads on the same topic being started by different people within a short period of time on these forums? Wasn’t there a thread about this like a week ago?[/quote]
You haven’t noticed the quality of threads dropping? Most of these threads aren’t worth the effort to click on to even see if it may be worth reading.
When you start a thread about, “who here really trains” and a significant number actually respond that they don’t even workout and just read, what do you expect?
I bet the core of the people using this site now are just here for entertainment and don’t even lift weights.
I sure am glad the site changed its focus from hardcore to “this site isn’t just for bodybuilders, its for 160lbs skateboarders who want rockin’ abs and for generally sedentary people who still want to show how smart they are by quoting training articles even though the last time they lifted was right before 9/11”.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Makavali wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Higher Game wrote:
If you’re in a gym for over an hour, you’re making friends, not muscles.
I thought it was over 45 minutes?
I do 45 minutes for lifting, about 15 for some cardio.
In that case, I’m at the gym for 55 minutes. 5 minutes both sides of lifting for a warm up/down.
I just don’t get the people who spend hours at the gym in a single day and do it 5 days a week. And then they wonder why they aren’t getting anywhere.
Man you guys must have amazing training density. I’m routinely at the gym for 2 hours. Turns out doing it this way I gained 70 lbs since I started training. I guess I must be doing something wrong, because there’s no way in hell I could complete my training sessions in 45 minutes. Especially max effort days.[/quote]
Just thinking the same thing. Two hours is about how long I spend on ME days as well. I don’t think that’s excessive or out of the ordinary either, Aragorn.
[quote]MsM wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
Makavali wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Higher Game wrote:
If you’re in a gym for over an hour, you’re making friends, not muscles.
I thought it was over 45 minutes?
I do 45 minutes for lifting, about 15 for some cardio.
In that case, I’m at the gym for 55 minutes. 5 minutes both sides of lifting for a warm up/down.
I just don’t get the people who spend hours at the gym in a single day and do it 5 days a week. And then they wonder why they aren’t getting anywhere.
Man you guys must have amazing training density. I’m routinely at the gym for 2 hours. Turns out doing it this way I gained 70 lbs since I started training. I guess I must be doing something wrong, because there’s no way in hell I could complete my training sessions in 45 minutes. Especially max effort days.
Just thinking the same thing. Two hours is about how long I spend on ME days as well. I don’t think that’s excessive or out of the ordinary either, Aragorn.[/quote]
It sounds like you two are training on a powerlifting template. Rest periods in particular are very different compared to bodybuilding style programs for various reasons. The original comment I believed was directed at people who are in there for so long because they are either chatting so much or because they are using pump style workouts.
[quote]will to power wrote:
MsM wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
Makavali wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Higher Game wrote:
If you’re in a gym for over an hour, you’re making friends, not muscles.
I thought it was over 45 minutes?
I do 45 minutes for lifting, about 15 for some cardio.
In that case, I’m at the gym for 55 minutes. 5 minutes both sides of lifting for a warm up/down.
I just don’t get the people who spend hours at the gym in a single day and do it 5 days a week. And then they wonder why they aren’t getting anywhere.
Man you guys must have amazing training density. I’m routinely at the gym for 2 hours. Turns out doing it this way I gained 70 lbs since I started training. I guess I must be doing something wrong, because there’s no way in hell I could complete my training sessions in 45 minutes. Especially max effort days.
Just thinking the same thing. Two hours is about how long I spend on ME days as well. I don’t think that’s excessive or out of the ordinary either, Aragorn.
It sounds like you two are training on a powerlifting template. Rest periods in particular are very different compared to bodybuilding style programs for various reasons. The original comment I believed was directed at people who are in there for so long because they are either chatting so much or because they are using pump style workouts. [/quote]
I think you are correct with that assumption as well. I do, as well as Aragorn (I believe), train for different goals. Believing also that the original comment was geared towards more of a bodybuilding style layout, I was just throwing in a reminder that different training goals require different amounts of time at the gym. Yes, a lot of it is recovery time between singles. I do know of the chatty people you speak of though.
I would’ve elaborated more but I have to get to work!
[quote]Professor X wrote:When you start a thread about, “who here really trains” and a significant number actually respond that they don’t even workout and just read, what do you expect?
I bet the core of the people using this site now are just here for entertainment and don’t even lift weights.
I sure am glad the site changed its focus from hardcore to “this site isn’t just for bodybuilders, its for 160lbs skateboarders who want rockin’ abs and for generally sedentary people who still want to show how smart they are by quoting training articles even though the last time they lifted was right before 9/11”.[/quote]
Um, about 95% of people in that thread did say they trained. As for the skateboarders, at least they have an aesthetic goal in mind outside of getting as big as possible, no matter the cost. 160 pounds of truly functional mass is great; earned mass, the kind you get from years of bodybuilding, just doesn’t work as well as your “natural” size, which is important in any sport with weight classes.
[quote]Higher Game wrote:
<<< Um, about 95% of people in that thread did say they trained. As for the skateboarders, at least they have an aesthetic goal in mind outside of getting as big as possible, no matter the cost. 160 pounds of truly functional mass is great; earned mass, the kind you get from years of bodybuilding, just doesn’t work as well as your “natural” size, which is important in any sport with weight classes.[/quote]
[quote]Higher Game wrote:
160 pounds of truly functional mass is great; earned mass, the kind you get from years of bodybuilding, just doesn’t work as well as your “natural” size, which is important in any sport with weight classes.[/quote]
[quote]Higher Game wrote:
Professor X wrote:When you start a thread about, “who here really trains” and a significant number actually respond that they don’t even workout and just read, what do you expect?
I bet the core of the people using this site now are just here for entertainment and don’t even lift weights.
I sure am glad the site changed its focus from hardcore to “this site isn’t just for bodybuilders, its for 160lbs skateboarders who want rockin’ abs and for generally sedentary people who still want to show how smart they are by quoting training articles even though the last time they lifted was right before 9/11”.
Um, about 95% of people in that thread did say they trained. As for the skateboarders, at least they have an aesthetic goal in mind outside of getting as big as possible, no matter the cost. 160 pounds of truly functional mass is great; earned mass, the kind you get from years of bodybuilding, just doesn’t work as well as your “natural” size, which is important in any sport with weight classes.[/quote]
I wasn’t going to respond, but I would really really like for you to tell me why or how “earned mass” doesn’t work as well as “natural size”. I am assuming you have watched a few football games and realized that the athletes lift weights. I am also assuming you are now saying they would “work better” as football players if they hadn’t gained any muscle mass at all in the weight room and simply jumped on the field in the same condition they were in as high school freshman.
I’m getting tired of the no matter the cost the thing. I can think of no statement ever made by anybody in these forums where it was implied that all other concerns should be summarily thrown to the wind if size was your goal. Quite the opposite in fact.
[quote]Higher Game wrote:
Um, about 95% of people in that thread did say they trained. As for the skateboarders, at least they have an aesthetic goal in mind outside of getting as big as possible, no matter the cost. 160 pounds of truly functional mass is great; earned mass, the kind you get from years of bodybuilding, just doesn’t work as well as your “natural” size, which is important in any sport with weight classes.[/quote]
[quote]Higher Game wrote:
Um, about 95% of people in that thread did say they trained. As for the skateboarders, at least they have an aesthetic goal in mind outside of getting as big as possible, no matter the cost. 160 pounds of truly functional mass is great; earned mass, the kind you get from years of bodybuilding, just doesn’t work as well as your “natural” size, which is important in any sport with weight classes.[/quote]
Please show me 160 pounds of “truly functional mass”.
Hell, just tell what the fuck “truly functional mass” is.
I’m with the guys who spend about 45 mins on their workout.
I remember in HS/College, I could spend 1.5 hrs in the gym easily, but now my workouts are around 45 minutes, and that’s taking about 60 secs rest between sets.
Working at a gym, I don’t want them to take much longer anyways. The people who I do see there well over an hour, either rest too much in between sets, or work their jaw muscles more than anything, people use the gym as a social place way too much
I just got back from the gym. Had a great workout, got an awesome pump on this now 172lb bitch’n body. I’m kind of sad there’s some 160lb skateboarder on this site taken the heat. Cause this now 172lb skater with a really bitch’n body was enjoying all that attention. I guess when I hit one eighty no will even notice I’m here. Almost makes me want to lose weight. Well I’m hungry AGAIN! so I have to go eat.
