Shoulder Problem with Back Squat

3 weeks ago I changed my resistance training program of doing exercises that primarily develop muscular endurance to doing exercises primarily developing muscular hypertrophy. One of the exercises within my muscle mass building regime has been the deep barbell back squat. In addition, I have been doing the deep barbell back squat for 2 times a week.

The problem I having with this exercise, is that I am feel some sort of pain within the glenohumeral joints. This doesn’t happen so much during the exercise, but only when I move my arms down or around in different directions during the recovery periods after each set. During the rest of day after my the leg workout and the next day I don’t feel any shoulder pain so far, I have been squatting 3 sets of 12 with 105 1bs. I have tried adjusting the width of my grip with all different width, but I still feel the pain afterwards. I have also tried doing both the high bar and low bar positions on my upper back, but that still didn’t work. I even tried both elbow position of raising them backwards or pointing them downward downward, but neither seem to help as well. So, how can I fix this?

Don’t wave your arms about between sets.

 ^^^^^^^^^^  This

In all seriousness, if you don’t have pain any other time, I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

Doing these immediately before you squat may help with the shoulder pain, possibly just because you are tight in your chest and the bar puts your shoulders in a position that they don’t want to go just yet

I am a doctor/fitness expert and i say just do back squats for a while without waving your arms around mid set, and your condition should improve.

I have been having a problem with back squats (both high-bar and low-bar) for a while now. After I do 2-3 working sets of back squats, I get pain radiating from my shoulders to my elbows. Yet, I don’t feel the pain during and after any of the warm-sets. This problem has been going on for at least a few months.

A few weeks ago, I went to a physical therapist, and told him about my problem with my with a nerve compression. The PT said that my shoulder mobility and flexibility was perfectly fine and that I had no injuries on my shoulders and arms. Ultimately his diagnosis was that I get nerve compression from doing either high-bar or low-bar squats. I know that I can trying using a barbell pad to make the bar more comfortable.

However, the problem I have with that is if I do use the pad then I won’t be able lift as much weight as I would without the pad on and I already had to decrease the weight I use on low-bar squats by about 30 pounds. Essentially, the pad on the barbell will make the barbel squats movement into a bodybuilder’s exercise, and I am not a bodybuilder.

I am a martial artist who wants to put on considerable muscle mass on my lower body and core, but at the same I want to build optimal functional strength and size for my lower body and core. So, what should I do?

[quote]Bull_Scientist wrote:
I have been having a problem with back squats (both high-bar and low-bar) for a while now. After I do 2-3 sets of back squats, I get pain radiating from my shoulders to my elbows. A few weeks ago, I went to a physical therapist, and told him about my problem with my with a nerve compression. The PT said that my shoulder mobility and flexibility was perfectly fine and that I had no injuries on my shoulders and arms. Ultimately his diagnosis was that I get nerve compression from doing either high-bar or low-bar squats.[/quote]

That is unfortunate.

[quote]Bull_Scientist wrote:
However, the problem I have with that is if I do use the pad then I won’t be able lift as much weight as I would without the pad on and I already had to decrease the weight I use on low-bar squats by about 30 pounds. Essentially, the pad on the barbell will make the barbel squats movement into a bodybuilder’s exercise, and I am not a bodybuilder.

I am a martial artist who wants to put on considerable muscle mass on my lower body and core, but at the same I want to build optimal functional strength and size for my lower body and core. So, what should I do?[/quote]

That’s terrible! Why are you even squatting non bodybuilder style to develop functional strength and mass for martial arts?

You should be assuming the horse stance for 2 hours a day to develope functional hypertrophy for your legs. Any training done with weights will make you bulky and you will develop fake muscle. I’m Chinese so I know what I’m talking about.

And it’s fried rice you plick!!!

[quote]Bull_Scientist wrote:
I have been having a problem with back squats (both high-bar and low-bar) for a while now. After I do 2-3 working sets of back squats, I get pain radiating from my shoulders to my elbows. Yet, I don’t feel the pain during and after any of the warm-sets. This problem has been going on for at least a few months.

A few weeks ago, I went to a physical therapist, and told him about my problem with my with a nerve compression. The PT said that my shoulder mobility and flexibility was perfectly fine and that I had no injuries on my shoulders and arms. Ultimately his diagnosis was that I get nerve compression from doing either high-bar or low-bar squats. I know that I can trying using a barbell pad to make the bar more comfortable.

However, the problem I have with that is if I do use the pad then I won’t be able lift as much weight as I would without the pad on and I already had to decrease the weight I use on low-bar squats by about 30 pounds. Essentially, the pad on the barbell will make the barbel squats movement into a bodybuilder’s exercise, and I am not a bodybuilder.

I am a martial artist who wants to put on considerable muscle mass on my lower body and core, but at the same I want to build optimal functional strength and size for my lower body and core. So, what should I do?[/quote]

Man up and deal with the pain? Every single strength athlete who’s worth a shit has trained through pain at some point. I’m training through substantial pain at the moment. My right arm gets a ‘dead’ feeling when I bench press. Fairly debilitating by the end of my workout. You know what I did last night? I bench pressed. You know what I’m going to do next week? bench press. You know what I’m going to continually get better at? bench pressing. You know how much the pain matters? TRICK QUESTION IT DOESN’T MATTER AT ALL.

The bottom line is, unless you have significant STRUCTURAL damage (does not include nerve pain), then work through it.

Also, google Brandon Lilly if you need some inspiration. The man shattered his leg earlier this year while squatting and tore just about every tendon and ligament in it. This summer he couldn’t squat 200 lbs. He squatted 700 a few weeks ago. There are no excuses for being weak.

What kind of martial arts requires that much muscle in the legs anyway.

[quote]Jarvan wrote:
What kind of martial arts requires that much muscle in the legs anyway.

[/quote]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exMmixM3b3Q

Glad to see your still over thinking every aspect of your training a year later .

[quote]roybot wrote:
Don’t wave your arms about between sets.[/quote]

You aren’t involved in litigation with Redbull by any chance, are you??

http://www.facesoflawsuitabuse.org/2014/10/lawsuit-red-bull-doesnt-actually-give-you-wings/

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Man up and deal with the pain? Every single strength athlete who’s worth a shit has trained through pain at some point. I’m training through substantial pain at the moment. My right arm gets a ‘dead’ feeling when I bench press. Fairly debilitating by the end of my workout. You know what I did last night? I bench pressed. You know what I’m going to do next week? bench press. You know what I’m going to continually get better at? bench pressing. You know how much the pain matters? TRICK QUESTION IT DOESN’T MATTER AT ALL.

The bottom line is, unless you have significant STRUCTURAL damage (does not include nerve pain), then work through it.
[/quote]

I get the point you’re trying to make here, but are you sure it’s a good idea to do work even when your arm feels like it’s dead?

The last time I worked through that kind of pain, I got De Quervain’s and had to get wrist surgery. It sort of sucked.

[quote]Bull_Scientist wrote:
Essentially, the pad on the barbell will make the barbel squats movement into a bodybuilder’s exercise, and I am not a bodybuilder.
[/quote]

How does the pad make the squat into a bodybuilder exercise?

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Man up and deal with the pain? Every single strength athlete who’s worth a shit has trained through pain at some point. I’m training through substantial pain at the moment. My right arm gets a ‘dead’ feeling when I bench press. Fairly debilitating by the end of my workout. You know what I did last night? I bench pressed. You know what I’m going to do next week? bench press. You know what I’m going to continually get better at? bench pressing. You know how much the pain matters? TRICK QUESTION IT DOESN’T MATTER AT ALL.

The bottom line is, unless you have significant STRUCTURAL damage (does not include nerve pain), then work through it.
[/quote]

I get the point you’re trying to make here, but are you sure it’s a good idea to do work even when your arm feels like it’s dead?

The last time I worked through that kind of pain, I got De Quervain’s and had to get wrist surgery. It sort of sucked.[/quote]

Based on the nature of my injury, I don’t believe this to be an issue. I appreciate the question. I’ve detailed the injury in my log, didn’t feel like I needed to here too. But yea, I think this is a ‘just work through it’ type of injury.

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]Bull_Scientist wrote:
I have been having a problem with back squats (both high-bar and low-bar) for a while now. After I do 2-3 working sets of back squats, I get pain radiating from my shoulders to my elbows. Yet, I don’t feel the pain during and after any of the warm-sets. This problem has been going on for at least a few months.

A few weeks ago, I went to a physical therapist, and told him about my problem with my with a nerve compression. The PT said that my shoulder mobility and flexibility was perfectly fine and that I had no injuries on my shoulders and arms. Ultimately his diagnosis was that I get nerve compression from doing either high-bar or low-bar squats. I know that I can trying using a barbell pad to make the bar more comfortable.

However, the problem I have with that is if I do use the pad then I won’t be able lift as much weight as I would without the pad on and I already had to decrease the weight I use on low-bar squats by about 30 pounds. Essentially, the pad on the barbell will make the barbel squats movement into a bodybuilder’s exercise, and I am not a bodybuilder.

I am a martial artist who wants to put on considerable muscle mass on my lower body and core, but at the same I want to build optimal functional strength and size for my lower body and core. So, what should I do?[/quote]

Man up and deal with the pain? Every single strength athlete who’s worth a shit has trained through pain at some point. I’m training through substantial pain at the moment. My right arm gets a ‘dead’ feeling when I bench press. Fairly debilitating by the end of my workout. You know what I did last night? I bench pressed. You know what I’m going to do next week? bench press. You know what I’m going to continually get better at? bench pressing. You know how much the pain matters? TRICK QUESTION IT DOESN’T MATTER AT ALL.

The bottom line is, unless you have significant STRUCTURAL damage (does not include nerve pain), then work through it.

Also, google Brandon Lilly if you need some inspiration. The man shattered his leg earlier this year while squatting and tore just about every tendon and ligament in it. This summer he couldn’t squat 200 lbs. He squatted 700 a few weeks ago. There are no excuses for being weak.[/quote]

But whenever I get the pain from doing back squats, it becomes excruciating and lasts for the rest of the workout. Consequently, whenever I do the bench press after back squats, the pain gets even worse on the shoulders and elbows (probably from compressing on the nerves inside my shoulders again and again when bench pressing heavy after already causing pain in those areas from the back squat). After the workout, the pain would last for hours afterwards. Yet, the pain goes away on the next day. So, why should I just ignore this pain? I thought that when weighlifting you should feel very little to no pain in your joints and nerves, and that the only kinds of pain that are acceptable during weight training are the lactic acid burning and/or high tension in the work muscles (so long as it’s not too excruciating).

[quote]Bull_Scientist wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]Bull_Scientist wrote:
I have been having a problem with back squats (both high-bar and low-bar) for a while now. After I do 2-3 working sets of back squats, I get pain radiating from my shoulders to my elbows. Yet, I don’t feel the pain during and after any of the warm-sets. This problem has been going on for at least a few months.

A few weeks ago, I went to a physical therapist, and told him about my problem with my with a nerve compression. The PT said that my shoulder mobility and flexibility was perfectly fine and that I had no injuries on my shoulders and arms. Ultimately his diagnosis was that I get nerve compression from doing either high-bar or low-bar squats. I know that I can trying using a barbell pad to make the bar more comfortable.

However, the problem I have with that is if I do use the pad then I won’t be able lift as much weight as I would without the pad on and I already had to decrease the weight I use on low-bar squats by about 30 pounds. Essentially, the pad on the barbell will make the barbel squats movement into a bodybuilder’s exercise, and I am not a bodybuilder.

I am a martial artist who wants to put on considerable muscle mass on my lower body and core, but at the same I want to build optimal functional strength and size for my lower body and core. So, what should I do?[/quote]

Man up and deal with the pain? Every single strength athlete who’s worth a shit has trained through pain at some point. I’m training through substantial pain at the moment. My right arm gets a ‘dead’ feeling when I bench press. Fairly debilitating by the end of my workout. You know what I did last night? I bench pressed. You know what I’m going to do next week? bench press. You know what I’m going to continually get better at? bench pressing. You know how much the pain matters? TRICK QUESTION IT DOESN’T MATTER AT ALL.

The bottom line is, unless you have significant STRUCTURAL damage (does not include nerve pain), then work through it.

Also, google Brandon Lilly if you need some inspiration. The man shattered his leg earlier this year while squatting and tore just about every tendon and ligament in it. This summer he couldn’t squat 200 lbs. He squatted 700 a few weeks ago. There are no excuses for being weak.[/quote]

But whenever I get the pain from doing back squats, it becomes excruciating and lasts for the rest of the workout. Consequently, whenever I do the bench press after back squats, the pain gets even worse on the shoulders and elbows (probably from compressing on the nerves inside my shoulders again and again when bench pressing heavy after already causing pain in those areas from the back squat). After the workout, the pain would last for hours afterwards. Yet, the pain goes away on the next day. So, why should I just ignore this pain? I thought that when weighlifting you should feel very little to no pain in your joints and nerves, and that the only kinds of pain that are acceptable during weight training are the lactic acid burning and/or high tension in the work muscles (so long as it’s not too excruciating).[/quote]

I already answered this with the post you quoted. I said very specifically why I would train through the pain. I also stated that others have done the same. What more do you expect me to say? It’s like you’re asking me permission to be a pussy.

You have my permission. Do whatever you want. As always, you’re not going to take the advice you’re given here, and you’re going to continue to be weak.

Just entertaining this notion of “pain that develops during the workout, and then dissipates over the next several hours”.

Are you eating your vegetables?

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]Jarvan wrote:
What kind of martial arts requires that much muscle in the legs anyway.

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touche my friend