[quote]Headhunter wrote:
dirtbag wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
dirtbag wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
dirtbag wrote:
Now since you read that you might want to start seeing a therapist about your own repressed homosexuality.
Anyway you shake it discrimination is wrong.
The guy doesn’t want to be leered at and he’s got a problem, requiring therapy yet? Tell that one to women who don’t appreciate you looking down their shirt.
Why should he give a fuck in the first place if a gay guy is looking? We are all visual creatures and he is doing whats in his nature. Big deal. Does looking hurt you? You inside yourself might think so but that is on you. Not the person looking.
And what I am talking about is why are you so uncomfortable or insecure it with it to begin with? Something inside you is triggering an emotion that makes you uncomfortable. That is why therapy might be needed if you feel that discrimination is necessary to solve those uncomfortable feelings.
Anyway you shake it discrimination is wrong based on any reason. Case in point gyms that actively discourage heavy lifting. Just cause I am trying to gain most muscle I want, I can’t work out at that gym. Just cause some scrawny health enthusiast get intimidated. Stupid right? So why make gay guys change in an other room cause something makes you feel not right about it?
He paid his gym dues just like the woman who reports someone leering at her, to the gym manager. If she’s got a legitimate complaint, then so does he.
You’re turning his dislike into being leered at into some sort of witch hunt for discrimination.
If it was a casual glance, then he should ignore it. It concerned him enough to post it here, which leads me to suspect that he was made uncomfortable with his surroundings. Since he paid his dues, was he paying to be uncomfortable? And now you’re trying to lay a guilt trip on him and label him.
Why do many (like Prof X and you) feel it their job to turn everything into a witch hunt or some scene out of an Orwellian novel? Lighten up.
I’ll agree to disagree with you on this but its not a witch hunt. My point is making people use another room cause of discrimination of sexual orientation is wrong.
But your right if the guy is making google eyes at him and being suggestive then he should complain. Inappropriate behavior should not be tolerated by anyone. But not make “gays” change in a different room that is discrimination.
The reason people like prof-x and myself are strong on points like this might be cause we face discriminatory attitudes and we were told to lighten up and its not that bad. Until you can say you faced the same thing you can’t make that kind of statement. When we see this kind of thing as discriminatory we know it when we see it. I for one will speak up about it cause its the right thing to do.
I respect what you’re saying. My argument is that the victims of such things are shamed down into not complaining, for fear of being labelled. A woman who complains becomes a ‘bitch’ and the guy becomes a ‘homophobe’. Is that really the case?
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I would not think so if the actions are inappropriate. Lets face it lots of people go to gyms for different reasons. Some to train some to waste time others to pick up(cliche). When people cross the line they should have there membership revoked. Bad behavior should be punished.
I would not look down on anyone for complaining if some d00d is acting out or harassing the other members. Fuck em don’t need people like that at my gym. They can go to some “health club” and work out there.
Personally I go to train and get the fuck out.
