KK sounds like a douche. PL is too cool and too small to allow douches to bring it down.
unless, of course, this is just a dispute between SL and KK, and not another example of the disuniting of PL.
[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
flabtoslab wrote:
I can see his view too - as a lifter, why not plan 1 lift well within your range (say 90% of estimated max with a shirt), 1 at the top of a non-crazy estimated max, and 1 beyond it to set a record? I’m sure it wouldn’t hurt to get into a groove before attempting a new record anyway.
That being said, he shouldn’t have been banned. Sometimes guys bomb out, it’s a fact of life.
-Dan[/quote]
Well the issue is this.
I can bench 405 raw any day of the week good or bad. Nowhere near competitive. My best raw is a 425 touch and go.
Now a good shirted lift for me is 600, but that is even difficult to get it to touch sometimes. I can hit it everytime, if I get my groove right, and everytime on a one board.
Now I have hit 650 in the gym. That is the absolute upper limit of my tricep power,BUT I have to hit the groove perfect to get it.
So, I go to the meet and expect to have an easy 575 opener. WRONG, it doesnt touch, floats a while and dumps in my face. Now I can go up and see if I find my groove, or try again.
This is how the bombout usually begins. You are either in the groove or not.
Seems like Shawn is the one who’s being singled out. It sucks, and it’s poor business on KK’s part, but the bombouts are a problem. There’s just better ways to go about solving it.
[quote]slattimer wrote:
kenmen wrote:
I don’t know the personalities involved and am not a close follower of the Plifting scene, but in checking out a recent Powerlifting USA I was really shocked to see the large number of bomb outs at a recent large Bench Press meet (just inside the front cover of the mag - Dec issue I think).
This definitely doesn’t seem right, as was pointed out a few posts ago. I don’t blame the promoter for being a little pissed about this. It seems like a lot of the competitors are going for “all or nothing”.
\Perhaps it has something to do with the shirts… here I plead a little bit of ignorance… I don’t really know. To have this many bomb outs does not make for a very good meet.
Not to pick on Lattimer, he posts here and seems like an awesome guy, but if I recall from the mag (it’s not in front of me), his opener was very very high (863? I’m going off of memory). Latt was one of the bomb outs… there were a bunch of others. I competed in powerlifting a long time ago and I enjoy following it to a degree. Just my observation.
I actually opened with 903, which I was hitting for triples in the gym prior to the meet. It should have been easy. I simply screwed up. I slipped out of my normal patterns and rushed trying to bring the bar down. I dumped the weight on my chest, hard. I’ll try to attacha pic of it.
I was ebtter on my second attempt, but blew out my left tricep. I should have skipped my third lift. Guess I’m too stubborn.
I do in fact agree with the issues around bombing being a problem. However, the very nature of the WPO meets, the qualifying standards, and the cash prizes are what lead to so many lifters bombing. You will always have guys who have an off day, blatantly screw up like I did, etc. But to have all but one lifter bomb is indicating a larger issue.
To have the president of the fed openly insult lifters, and futher insult me directly and ban me from his organizations for questioning him on it, is an even more serious problem.
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Thanks very much for the response. I certainly agree that KK should not be insulting you or any other lifter. No lifters, no meet. I don’t know the answer to the bombouts. Off the top of my head, perhaps there can be a rule that a lifter’s opener cannot be more than his/her previous competition best. Maybe this would help.