Okay…what’s wrong with having halal food preparation? We already have Kosher food. I worked at a hotel in a heavily Jewish town and we had a Kosher kitchen! OMG!!! NO!!! NOT A KOSHER KITCHEN!!! We did mega business in bar/bat mitzvahs, it was logical to have a Kosher kitchen. We even had people trained in Kosher food preparation. What’s so wrong with that?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/11/08/shariah-banned-courts/#content
I cannot believe this appeal was upheld!! where is the ACLU…where is our leader right now…oh yeah…he’s in traveling to India and Indonesia… kissing their ass.
[/quote]
Damn good thread, Rock! The American people may be waking up to the invasion of this evil menace to western culture.
If Obama is not a Muslim, he sure seems to love them a lot. Remember when he wouldn’t denounce ‘jihad’ a few days ago?
Wake up, America!!!
[/quote]
I dislike Obama as much as the next guy but his answer to the loaded jihad question wasn’t that bad.
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
Muslims are the new Communists. We need to have an all-encompassing “evil” to focus on and since the Cold War is over and 9/11 happened, Islam and Muslims are it.[/quote]
I have heard this said before and find it so ridiculous. Islam, Fascism and Communism in any significant way are certainly hostile to what we typically define as the Western way of life.
I challenge you to demonstrate otherwise.
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
Okay…what’s wrong with having halal food preparation? We already have Kosher food. I worked at a hotel in a heavily Jewish town and we had a Kosher kitchen! OMG!!! NO!!! NOT A KOSHER KITCHEN!!! We did mega business in bar/bat mitzvahs, it was logical to have a Kosher kitchen. We even had people trained in Kosher food preparation. What’s so wrong with that?[/quote]
Is this a serious question? Should we also stop using Arabic numerals because Islam does not play well with others?
[quote]Big Banana wrote:
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
Muslims are the new Communists. We need to have an all-encompassing “evil” to focus on and since the Cold War is over and 9/11 happened, Islam and Muslims are it.[/quote]
I have heard this said before and find it so ridiculous. Islam, Fascism and Communism in any significant way are certainly hostile to what we typically define as the Western way of life.
I challenge you to demonstrate otherwise.[/quote]
I’m not saying I believe this, just that others do. I probably should have prefaced my statements with that. I apologize.
[quote]Big Banana wrote:
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
Okay…what’s wrong with having halal food preparation? We already have Kosher food. I worked at a hotel in a heavily Jewish town and we had a Kosher kitchen! OMG!!! NO!!! NOT A KOSHER KITCHEN!!! We did mega business in bar/bat mitzvahs, it was logical to have a Kosher kitchen. We even had people trained in Kosher food preparation. What’s so wrong with that?[/quote]
Is this a serious question? Should we also stop using Arabic numerals because Islam does not play well with others?[/quote]
I’m just saying that honoring religious food preparation is not a big deal. We already have Kosher food in the super markets. Who cares?
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
My apologies for offending you, but you just responded to a one liner with a tirade. Sorry for grouping you in with the Islamophobia group, I have read some of your criticisms of the religion and upon rereading a few of them it seems like you may be objecting strongly to the destructive practice of Islam and not all muslim individuals.
[/quote]
You’re not even old enough to legally drink, but you’re so damned sure that you’ve got everything figured out that you jump to slanderous conclusions.
(Since that’s just a “one liner,” I know it won’t bother you much.)
Re-read your own “one liner” to me, and then ask yourself if you deserve the respect one man usually shows another, son.
I think you’re just a little too used to being the biggest kid in the room for your own good.
Apology (tentatively) accepted.
Oh, and if you don’t like what I wrote here?
Tough shit.[/quote]
Fair enough, but answer me this:
How does a case that simply shows how difficult it is to convict someone of criminal intent turn into Fox news and the OP claiming that Sharia law is now being allowed in America? I mean the very title of this thread is so indicative of fear that it literally astounds me. Why are people petrified of Sharia law penetrating our Justice system when we have so many barriers in place to keep the two separate?[/quote]
It does not say that. It says the injunction barring it is placed on hold, meaning it has enough merit to be considered, therefore already penetrating said barriers.
Here’s how it works:
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States – Muslim 0…6%
Australia – Muslim 1.5%
Canada – Muslim 1.9%
China – Muslim 1.8%
Italy – Muslim 1.5%
Norway – Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
This is happening in:
Denmark – Muslim 2%
Germany – Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom – Muslim 2.7%
Spain – Muslim 4%
Thailand – Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves – along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France – Muslim 8%
Philippines – 5%
Sweden – Muslim 5%
Switzerland – Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands – Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago – Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
Guyana – Muslim 10%
India – Muslim 13.4%
Israel – Muslim 16%
Kenya – Muslim 10%
Russia – Muslim 15%
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia – Muslim 32.8%
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia – Muslim 40%
Chad – Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon – Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania – Muslim 70%
Malaysia – Muslim 60.4%
Qatar – Muslim 77.5%
Sudan – Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh – Muslim 83%
Egypt – Muslim 90%
Gaza – Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia – Muslim 86.1%
Iran – Muslim 98%
Iraq – Muslim 97%
Jordan – Muslim 92%
Morocco – Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan – Muslim 97%
Palestine – Muslim 99%
Syria – Muslim 90%
Tajikistan – Muslim 90%
Turkey – Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates – Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ – the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan – Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia – Muslim 100%
Somalia – Muslim 100%
Yemen – Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’
It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.
Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat[/quote]
Very, very good post! Satan is on the march and we will have to do battle with the forces of Darkness before the end of this century. This is why I believe we should simply expel them from the country – they are so insane that they can’t produce wealth in their own states of corruption and deviltry. They parasite from the West. Let them destroy themselves in their own pestholes.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]Schlenkatank wrote:
My apologies for offending you, but you just responded to a one liner with a tirade. Sorry for grouping you in with the Islamophobia group, I have read some of your criticisms of the religion and upon rereading a few of them it seems like you may be objecting strongly to the destructive practice of Islam and not all muslim individuals.
[/quote]
You’re not even old enough to legally drink, but you’re so damned sure that you’ve got everything figured out that you jump to slanderous conclusions.
(Since that’s just a “one liner,” I know it won’t bother you much.)
Re-read your own “one liner” to me, and then ask yourself if you deserve the respect one man usually shows another, son.
I think you’re just a little too used to being the biggest kid in the room for your own good.
Apology (tentatively) accepted.
Oh, and if you don’t like what I wrote here?
Tough shit.[/quote]
Fair enough, but answer me this:
How does a case that simply shows how difficult it is to convict someone of criminal intent turn into Fox news and the OP claiming that Sharia law is now being allowed in America? I mean the very title of this thread is so indicative of fear that it literally astounds me. Why are people petrified of Sharia law penetrating our Justice system when we have so many barriers in place to keep the two separate?[/quote]
It does not say that. It says the injunction barring it is placed on hold, meaning it has enough merit to be considered, therefore already penetrating said barriers.
Here’s how it works:
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:
United States – Muslim 0…6%
Australia – Muslim 1.5%
Canada – Muslim 1.9%
China – Muslim 1.8%
Italy – Muslim 1.5%
Norway – Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
This is happening in:
Denmark – Muslim 2%
Germany – Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom – Muslim 2.7%
Spain – Muslim 4%
Thailand – Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves – along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
France – Muslim 8%
Philippines – 5%
Sweden – Muslim 5%
Switzerland – Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands – Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago – Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
Guyana – Muslim 10%
India – Muslim 13.4%
Israel – Muslim 16%
Kenya – Muslim 10%
Russia – Muslim 15%
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia – Muslim 32.8%
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:
Bosnia – Muslim 40%
Chad – Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon – Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
Albania – Muslim 70%
Malaysia – Muslim 60.4%
Qatar – Muslim 77.5%
Sudan – Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:
Bangladesh – Muslim 83%
Egypt – Muslim 90%
Gaza – Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia – Muslim 86.1%
Iran – Muslim 98%
Iraq – Muslim 97%
Jordan – Muslim 92%
Morocco – Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan – Muslim 97%
Palestine – Muslim 99%
Syria – Muslim 90%
Tajikistan – Muslim 90%
Turkey – Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates – Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ – the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan – Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia – Muslim 100%
Somalia – Muslim 100%
Yemen – Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’
It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.
Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat[/quote]
Very, very good post! Satan is on the march and we will have to do battle with the forces of Darkness before the end of this century. This is why I believe we should simply expel them from the country – they are so insane that they can’t produce wealth in their own states of corruption and deviltry. They parasite from the West. Let them destroy themselves in their own pestholes.
[/quote]
I’m going to say something I’ll get flamed for, but: If I didn’t know better, I’d swear you were talking about Mexico.
yes, what’s could possibly be wrong in (ab)using the law to force each and every cafeterias, be they private or public, to buy the products of your own religious brothers ?
who care if they make millions in the process ?
[quote]kamui wrote:
yes, what’s could possibly be wrong in (ab)using the law to force each and every cafeterias, be they private or public, to buy the products of your own religious brothers ?
who care if they make millions in the process ?[/quote]
Not even talking about cafeterias! Sheesh. We have “ethnic” aisles which have all the asian and hispanic foods in them, along with Kosher food. What’s the big frickin’ deal? Do we really need to have separate stores to buy food? Do we really need to separate the food out into European, Hispanic, Muslim, Kosher, Asian, food? We should go even farther! How about French, Italian, Spanish, German, Austrian, Russian, English, Irish, food stores! Don’t let the different types of food touch each other! The world might come crashing down!
Do people really think Muslims are going to take over the world? I cannot believe the rampant Islam-o-phobia in this place. People like you make me sick.
do you realize that’s exactly what is required by Halal preparation ?
do you realize that’s exactly what the supporters of “halal food” try to impose ?
if haram food touch halal food, it’s no more halal.
[quote]
Do people really think Muslims are going to take over the world? I cannot believe the rampant Islam-o-phobia in this place. People like you make me sick. [/quote]
i don’t think muslims are going to take over the world. and i’m hardly an islamophobe.
i’m simply concerned with the fact that muslims groups try to impose Halal food for everyone in the cafeterias of public schools, in a secular country.
if we don’t buy their products with tax money, and prepare things the way they want, we are guilty of discrimination. that’s bullshit, and that’s communautarism at its worst.
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
yes, what’s could possibly be wrong in (ab)using the law to force each and every cafeterias, be they private or public, to buy the products of your own religious brothers ?
who care if they make millions in the process ?[/quote]
Not even talking about cafeterias! Sheesh. We have “ethnic” aisles which have all the asian and hispanic foods in them, along with Kosher food. What’s the big frickin’ deal? Do we really need to have separate stores to buy food? Do we really need to separate the food out into European, Hispanic, Muslim, Kosher, Asian, food? We should go even farther! How about French, Italian, Spanish, German, Austrian, Russian, English, Irish, food stores! Don’t let the different types of food touch each other! The world might come crashing down!
Do people really think muslims are going to take over the world? I cannot believe the rampant Islam-o-phobia in this place. People like you make me sick.[/quote]
Hold on. I enjoy ethnic foods as much as the rest of you.
I think what this is referring to is the food industry which eventually must comply with a muslim approved process when the population gets over 10%. I forget what stage it’s in but it’s around 8-10%. muslims will strong arm all food service to comply…no shit. This is 20 years out in the US if we continue down the coarse. It would be like forcing Kosher approves diets on the population. But again this would be years out with our laws overtaken…but it does happen eventually if unchecked, and I understand it, as their pop grows with their ideology of LIFE, not just religion. Religion is what you say do eat and feel. The islamic political movement and religion goes to those extents.
Bottom line, bigot or not, racist or not, when muslims or islam end up with a significant population, working for islam in their job in life; catering TO islam, who you marry, who you can speak to as a woman, if you can shake someone hand or not… what you can do…and every little fucking thing you can think of…for islam…and against anyone who is not of that mind. Facts support this.
BUT…It’s just freedom of religion according to our interpretation as a collective US judicial body.
Sheep to the slaughter, as an enlightened, multicultural, tolerant society we are.
Bomb Crash
Fear Monger*****
[quote]kamui wrote:
do you realize that’s exactly what is required by Halal preparation ?
do you realize that’s exactly what the supporters of “halal food” try to impose ?
if haram food touch halal food, it’s no more halal.[/quote]
Okay, but are they really trying to force that on the general populace? And if society doesn’t comply they commit acts of terrorism? That is what I don’t get.
[quote][quote]
Do people really think Muslims are going to take over the world? I cannot believe the rampant Islam-o-phobia in this place. People like you make me sick. [/quote]
i don’t think muslims are going to take over the world. and i’m hardly an islamophobe.
i’m simply concerned with the fact that muslims groups try to impose Halal food for everyone in the cafeterias of public schools, in a secular country.
if we don’t buy their products with tax money, and prepare things the way they want, we are guilty of discrimination. that’s bullshit, and that’s communautarism at its worst.
[/quote]
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
yes, what’s could possibly be wrong in (ab)using the law to force each and every cafeterias, be they private or public, to buy the products of your own religious brothers ?
who care if they make millions in the process ?[/quote]
Not even talking about cafeterias! Sheesh. We have “ethnic” aisles which have all the asian and hispanic foods in them, along with Kosher food. What’s the big frickin’ deal? Do we really need to have separate stores to buy food? Do we really need to separate the food out into European, Hispanic, Muslim, Kosher, Asian, food? We should go even farther! How about French, Italian, Spanish, German, Austrian, Russian, English, Irish, food stores! Don’t let the different types of food touch each other! The world might come crashing down!
Do people really think muslims are going to take over the world? I cannot believe the rampant Islam-o-phobia in this place. People like you make me sick.[/quote]
Hold on. I enjoy ethnic foods as much as the rest of you.
I think what this is referring to is the food industry which eventually must comply with a muslim approved process when the population gets over 10%. I forget what stage it’s in but it’s around 8-10%. muslims will strong arm all food service to comply…no shit. This is 20 years out in the US if we continue down the coarse. It would be like forcing Kosher approves diets on the population. But again this would be years out with our laws overtaken…but it does happen eventually if unchecked, and I understand it, as their pop grows with their ideology of LIFE, not just religion. Religion is what you say do eat and feel. The islamic political movement and religion goes to those extents.
Bottom line, bigot or not, racist or not, when muslims or islam end up with a significant population, working for islam in their job in life; catering TO islam, who you marry, who you can speak to as a woman, if you can shake someone hand or not… what you can do…and every little fucking thing you can think of…for islam…and against anyone who is not of that mind. Facts support this.
BUT…It’s just freedom of religion according to our interpretation as a collective US judicial body.
Sheep to the slaughter, as an enlightened, multicultural, tolerant society we are.
Bomb Crash
Fear Monger*****
[/quote]
So…according to statistics we’re going to become a Spanish-speaking, Muslim country? Do you really think gov’t would allow that?
yes, some of them are really trying.
no, they do no commit acts of terrorism when we don’t comply.
they just sue their boss if there is no halal food in the company’s cafeteria and they sue the state if there is no halal food in the school’s cafeteria.
for now, it has not worked very well in France, because our legal system is pretty solid in this regard.
not sure how it will end up in the US. i don’t know enough to comment on this.
just one more thing :
i’m probably one the most “islamophile” posters on this board.
unlike most of you, i live in a muslim aera in a country where muslims represent 10 percent of the global population.
I do not see them on my TV screen, i see them “next door”.
I have muslim students, muslim neighbors, muslim friends, muslim co-workers, a muslim ex-girlfriend and a muslim brother-in-law.
I have read the Qu’ran, and studied muslim philosophy, theology and mysticism.
I understand both side of the debate between Averroes and Thomas Aquinas.
I know a good bit of Arab
I even learned to play to play the Oud with a muslim teacher.
I not only love muslim food, i actually know how to cook it.
as a result, i don’t “believe that most muslims are ok”. I actually KNOW it.
but I know more than that :
that the distinction between extremists and moderates is a ridiculously simplistic one, that the muslim world is extremely diverse, extremely complex and extremely divided.
and that, some groups, some non-terrorist groups, are actually a threat for “freedom as we know it”.
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
yes, what’s could possibly be wrong in (ab)using the law to force each and every cafeterias, be they private or public, to buy the products of your own religious brothers ?
who care if they make millions in the process ?[/quote]
Not even talking about cafeterias! Sheesh. We have “ethnic” aisles which have all the asian and hispanic foods in them, along with Kosher food. What’s the big frickin’ deal? Do we really need to have separate stores to buy food? Do we really need to separate the food out into European, Hispanic, Muslim, Kosher, Asian, food? We should go even farther! How about French, Italian, Spanish, German, Austrian, Russian, English, Irish, food stores! Don’t let the different types of food touch each other! The world might come crashing down!
Do people really think muslims are going to take over the world? I cannot believe the rampant Islam-o-phobia in this place. People like you make me sick.[/quote]
Hold on. I enjoy ethnic foods as much as the rest of you.
I think what this is referring to is the food industry which eventually must comply with a muslim approved process when the population gets over 10%. I forget what stage it’s in but it’s around 8-10%. muslims will strong arm all food service to comply…no shit. This is 20 years out in the US if we continue down the coarse. It would be like forcing Kosher approves diets on the population. But again this would be years out with our laws overtaken…but it does happen eventually if unchecked, and I understand it, as their pop grows with their ideology of LIFE, not just religion. Religion is what you say do eat and feel. The islamic political movement and religion goes to those extents.
Bottom line, bigot or not, racist or not, when muslims or islam end up with a significant population, working for islam in their job in life; catering TO islam, who you marry, who you can speak to as a woman, if you can shake someone hand or not… what you can do…and every little fucking thing you can think of…for islam…and against anyone who is not of that mind. Facts support this.
BUT…It’s just freedom of religion according to our interpretation as a collective US judicial body.
Sheep to the slaughter, as an enlightened, multicultural, tolerant society we are.
Bomb Crash
Fear Monger*****
[/quote]
So…according to statistics we’re going to become a Spanish-speaking, Muslim country? Do you really think gov’t would allow that? [/quote]
Yes, it could happen…even though your premise is wrong.
[quote]kamui wrote:
just one more thing :
i’m probably one the most “islamophile” posters on this board.
unlike most of you, i live in a muslim aera in a country where muslims represent 10 percent of the global population.
I do not see them on my TV screen, i see them “next door”.
I have muslim students, muslim neighbors, muslim friends, muslim co-workers, a muslim ex-girlfriend and a muslim brother-in-law.
I have read the Qu’ran, and studied muslim philosophy, theology and mysticism.
I understand both side of the debate between Averroes and Thomas Aquinas.
I know a good bit of Arab
I even learned to play to play the Oud with a muslim teacher.
I not only love muslim food, i actually know how to cook it.
as a result, i don’t “believe that most muslims are ok”. I actually KNOW it.
but I know more than that :
that the distinction between extremists and moderates is a ridiculously simplistic one, that the muslim world is extremely diverse, extremely complex and extremely divided.
and that, some groups, some non-terrorist groups, are actually a threat for “freedom as we know it”.
[/quote]
Interesting post man… keep posting here in PWI, you give a perspective that many can’t give.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
[quote]Grneyes wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
yes, what’s could possibly be wrong in (ab)using the law to force each and every cafeterias, be they private or public, to buy the products of your own religious brothers ?
who care if they make millions in the process ?[/quote]
Not even talking about cafeterias! Sheesh. We have “ethnic” aisles which have all the asian and hispanic foods in them, along with Kosher food. What’s the big frickin’ deal? Do we really need to have separate stores to buy food? Do we really need to separate the food out into European, Hispanic, Muslim, Kosher, Asian, food? We should go even farther! How about French, Italian, Spanish, German, Austrian, Russian, English, Irish, food stores! Don’t let the different types of food touch each other! The world might come crashing down!
Do people really think muslims are going to take over the world? I cannot believe the rampant Islam-o-phobia in this place. People like you make me sick.[/quote]
Hold on. I enjoy ethnic foods as much as the rest of you.
I think what this is referring to is the food industry which eventually must comply with a muslim approved process when the population gets over 10%. I forget what stage it’s in but it’s around 8-10%. muslims will strong arm all food service to comply…no shit. This is 20 years out in the US if we continue down the coarse. It would be like forcing Kosher approves diets on the population. But again this would be years out with our laws overtaken…but it does happen eventually if unchecked, and I understand it, as their pop grows with their ideology of LIFE, not just religion. Religion is what you say do eat and feel. The islamic political movement and religion goes to those extents.
Bottom line, bigot or not, racist or not, when muslims or islam end up with a significant population, working for islam in their job in life; catering TO islam, who you marry, who you can speak to as a woman, if you can shake someone hand or not… what you can do…and every little fucking thing you can think of…for islam…and against anyone who is not of that mind. Facts support this.
BUT…It’s just freedom of religion according to our interpretation as a collective US judicial body.
Sheep to the slaughter, as an enlightened, multicultural, tolerant society we are.
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Fear Monger*****
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So…according to statistics we’re going to become a Spanish-speaking, Muslim country? Do you really think gov’t would allow that? [/quote]
Yes, it could happen…even though your premise is wrong.[/quote]
So, what is your solution to preventing that? Do you really not believe in the gov’t that much? Is gov’t that useless to you?