this are my pics ( i change account’s name because i don’t remember the pass…)
Hi Shadow,
I been training for probably 6-8 years. I am 25 years old. Currently on my first cycle of Test Cyp at 600mg a week. Did a dbol kickstart for 6 weeks at 50mg a day. Im on week 10 and I have gained about 15Ibs. My height is 5’6 and current weight is between 183-186. Body fat maybe 10-12%? Wanted to know to if you suggest a 12 week cycle or 14 week cycle for a beginner. Also wanted to know how I should plan out my PCT, I have clomid and HCG on hand.
Hi shadow. Firstly, thanks again for being on here for so long and always taking the time to answer our questions. It’s greatly appreciated.
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Do you believe that IGF-1 LR3 can be used pre-work out as a substitute for a less effective version of Humalog? It seems to act as a glucose disposal agent, in the sense that it delivers nutrients to the cells very effectively, albeit not the same degree as Slin. It seems to make me go Hypo if I don’t drink intra work out carbs with it, and it also seem to act very similar to Slin in the sense that it provides very good muscle pumps when taken pre work out. Do you use IGF-1 LR3 at all yourself? If so, what benefits do you see from it?
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Do you think Humalog is still effective in the ranges of 5-7 IU pre-work out? Also aside from essentially feeding the cells with aminos, carbs, creatine, etc what else does insulin do when used with GH? Does it contribute to raising IGF-1 levels significantly if insulin is used along with GH, as opposed to just GH alone?
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What do Glucose disposal agents such as berberine exactly do? I am under the impression that they lower blood sugar, increase insulin sensitivity and also mimic insulin in the sense that they help our muscles absorb nutrients (carbs,aminos) better? Is the last part true?
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When using Insulin to carbload for a show, is it possible to spillover and retain water if water has been shut off for at least 6-8 hours prior to insulin use and no water is consumed during the load? Is it true that using slin to carbload will allow one to fill up quicker, but also hold more glycogen in the muscle if one was to not use slin to carbload?
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Do you think it’s a good idea to use Letrozole for the last 2 weeks or so of a show to really dry out? Basically using Letro to get very dry in order to limit the use of a diuretic. Some of the coaches that I’ve worked with are very against using Letro at all, while others are a big fan?
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Let’s assume a bodybuilder consumes 250g of carbs and 40g of fats per day pre-contest on training days. How would you adjust his carbs and fat in take if he chooses to take a day off weight training? (Still does cardio). Also, how much do you reduce carbs and fats in the off-season on a non-trainning day?
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Is it true that consuming carbs intra pre contest is detrimental to fat loss? While in the off season it’s very beneifical to maximizing muscle gains?
Thanks again.
Hey glad my advice has helped.
I honestly wish I could answer this for you but am just not able…there are a lot of resources though so look around the internet etc.
You’re a little behind for 12 weeks out - I would run the T3 the whole time, drop the tren E and run tren A weeks 2-12 (maybe even drop it the last week). Use masteron instead of dbol and drop test E at 8 weeks out. Also don’t use the EQ - you dont need it when you’re cutting
For PCT try nolvadex 40/40/40/20/20, HCG 500 twice a week for 4 weeks (next time run it the whole cycle), Alha male 2 full bottles 4-6 caps per day.
You probably don’t need clomide for this cycle - it’s very mild.
It seems like a decent gain - honestly the difference between 12 and 14 is minimal - if you feel good push to 14 then PCT
1 It can be done - insulin is more effective but if its real IGF1 it will do the trick. If I use it, its only post workout Im not a huge fan, only because it’s hard to find the real thing
2. absolutely…even low dose makes a big difference and you’re right on the money, GH and insulin create a big spike in IGF1 which you want while you train - especially with a good intra workout like Plazma
3. you’re right on all accounts
4 In theory it shouldnt happen but I have used it and stopped the water a long time before and it still spilled over. Just an educated guess but a few people who are more sensitive will look puffy regardless when they use insulin
5. I have used it with success before in terms of getting dry and hard as hell. But you can kiss your sex drive goodbye for a long time afterward and it also makes your joints hurt and you become a bit prone to injury - not sure its worth it.
6. too individual to answer - it changes person to person and goal to goal
7. intra workout was a game changer for me and i recommend it fully in on and off season
Okie-dokie. Thanks Shadow
Thanks! Any issues with taking both gh and lr3 or gh and humalog pre work out?
Thanks Shadow I appreciate the feedback. 1 more question.
If I wanted to do a Test Cyp and Tren A for my 2nd cycle, what would be the best way to plan that out? Ideally, I’d like to get up to 195 at 10% body fat. I also tend to put on water weight and fat easily, hence the reason for choosing Tren A. Im sitting at about 180 now, 5’6. I also have Dbol on hand that I can use as a kick starter for 6 weeks. Thanks!
hey Shadow!
i think i fucked up…
basically i had these lymphnodes and i spoke to my doctor, we did all those tests and she said, youre healthy, she knows about my cycles and AAS use and that i want to hit stage one day, i also did the bloodwork and this is where i got bad news…
Endo:
FSH 3.3 mlU/ml norm: 0.7 - 11.1
LH 3.6 mlU/ml norm: 0.8 - 7.6
Oestradiol 31 pg/ml norm: 0-56
Testosteron 2.53 ng/ml norm: 1.6-7.3
This bloodwork is up from last week and it has been like 6 Months after the last cycle, including the time with pct. It was probably the most stupid thing to do since i stayed like 22/23 weeks without hcg, i though everythings gonna be alright coz it was after first cycle.
edit: i just checked my notes… the last pin was on 18.01.2016 so i started pct on 1.2.2016 till 15.3.2016 and it hast been 14 weeks, 20 weeks with the pct.
my first cycle was like 16-18 weeks without HCG and i had like Test value of 5.23 after 12 weeks, 12 weeks including the PCT Time of 4-6 weeks.
I need to admit that my sleep was like complete shhit, i took my sleeping medicine out and i would sleep only up to 5/6 hours a day with shit quality of sleep, waking up midnight, so everyday i was pretty much exhausted, i would work a lot and then also hit the gym 5 times a week, it was just my mentality that i kept pushing but i always felt kinda tired and fucked up, after workouts i couldnt even eat coz i was so fucked up but i still kept training and working hard while sleeping less.
So on top of this stress i saw that my
cholesterin is at 101 mg/dl norm: 100-200
LDH 194 U/l norm : 50-248
dnu if its worth to mention^^
It wasnt like this after my first cycle, i was having more free time and i would sleep well and rest more
My main question is what should i do really? As i got my news about the lymph nodes, she said im all healthy so i though im fine to go, then i saw the bloodwork and it really stopped me thinking about the new cycle. Im missing on energy aswell, i got important exams coming up in 3 months and with all this i can really train properly, rest or concentrate either.
i was thinking as i mentioned before 1-14 test e 250mg e5d and tren a 300mg a week 4-12 or JUST a normal TEST E cycle for 14 weeks(?) but now i dont really know what to do… does it make any sense to start new cycle and then pct correctly with HCG and so on? wouldnt this surpess me even more? or should i do a pct now again, would appreciate your help like always.
overall i was thinking that i should cut training to 3 times a week, take a week off now, reduce the water intake so i can sleep thru and get my sleep sorted, like atleast of 8 hours quality sleep a day! also get the vitamins back in and so on, maybe it would change anything in a natural way?
Wow. I’ve been furiously reading every post since 2014 over the last few weeks and I can’t believe you’re still helping us. Immediately made an account. Thank you so much.
I do have some questions!
- Are there any other compounds you prefer to take when using insulin. Besides hgh and plazma. (My plazma is on the way!) Does long ester or short ester matter, orals?
- Do you ever vary your training techniques to exploit a benefit of one of the compounds you are using, assuming you switch compounds from time to time. Example: Decca builds mass well and is used in the off season, so more high weight, high intensity style training? Could you give some examples?
- Sorry if you’ve already answered. I can’t remember. How do you feel about DC training or just rest pause? Are there any training techniques you feel are especially important?
4.Do you have any advice for someone trying to gradually increase carbohydrate intake? Should you just jump up to 600-900g a day? How do you know you are ready?
Thank you shadowpro.
I would do GH 60-90 minutes pre workout, insulin 10 min pre workout when you start drinking your Plazma, and keep the IGF1 immediately post workout.
I would start the cycle when you are roughly around 7-8% body fat - if you are going to use cyp, you may as well use tren e …cyp is way worse for water retention so the tren wont make a huge difference. You can run DBol the first 6-8 weeks of the cycle - star with 30 and ramp up from there. 12 weeks is good for the other 2 compounds and don’t forget HCG and anti-E during the cycle.
Get your diet, training & health on point before you consider your next cycle.
Do more research - this site has a ton of info and resources, as well as supps that can help you clean things up.
- If the goal is to gain mass, long ester and if the goal is to diet down then short ester. I like DBol with insulin and Plazma - the pump is insane.
- yes I do, but it has more to do with diet than actual compounds, although when I take orals I go heavier, as they have an immediate impact on strength.
- DC training is cool, and definitely works, but so do a lot of other training methods. Its a very individual question and depends so much on the experience and person. Bottom line - heavy weights, high intensity, gradually increasing volume will do the trick as long as you work your ass off.
- definitely don’t jump up to that amount right away. Gradual is the key word here - increase of 25-50 per week is likely safe assuming you are starting lean (under 10% body fat) which you should be if you’re trying to increase carbs. If you don’t gain fat while adding, you can keep adding.
Thanks Shadow!
What doses would you recommend for the Cyp and Tren E?
A medium dose for cyp is 750 and for tren E is 600mg per week
Hi bro, first of i all i would like to thank you for doing this and helping the community.
I’m one week from finishing my 12th week of Prop/Tren/Wins cutting cycle.
1-12 100mg Prop EOD
3-12 75mg Tren EOD
2-12 30-40mg Win Tablet per day
I have been taking some 20-30 mg of nolvadex since i had some gyno formed in the middle of my course and now it is becoming slightly bigger as i approach the 12th week.
I didn’t take any HCG yet, i know i have probably fucked it up but i think i can still manage to do it right if you manage to help me.
My question are :
How should i implement HCG now and how should i stick with Nolva after the cycle?
Do you have any advices for post cycle nutrition and traning?
Maybe i can get my hands on Letro but im not 100% positive yet.
Thanks bro,
J
Hi there,
First of all I would like to thank you for all the time and energy you put into this. It’s highly appreciated.
As this is my first post I will introduce myself first.
I’m 23 years old.
1m91 (6 foot 3)
96kg (~211lbs)
I’ve been training for about 6 years now and I’ve done 4 cycles in the past (of which one i quit halfway due to family circumstances).
A few pics of what I currently look like at the bottom of this post:
Cycle history:
-1
40mg dbol ED week 1-6
500mg testE ew week 1-12
250iu HCG twice a week 1-12
-2
500mg testE ew week 1-12
500mg mastE ew week 1-12
250iu HCG twice a week 1-12
-3
250mg testE ew week 1-4
50mg trenA ed week 1-4
250iu HCG twice a week 1-4
This one I quit due to circumstances
-4 (stopped a month ago)
625mg testE ew week 1-12
500mg trenE ew week 1-12
50mg mastP ed week 8-12
250iu HCG twice a week 1-12
Now… I have a few questions regarding my next cycle.
My main goal is to gain lean mass on this one while maintaining a decent shape.
I was thinking of something along the lines of
TestE 625mg EW week 1-14
TrenE 400mg EW week 1-14
EQ 750-1000mg EW week 1-14
Dbol 50mg ED week 1-6
Nolva 20mg ED throughout the cycle
HCG 250iu twice a week throughout the cycle
My diet will be something along the lines of this (I didnt put the amounts in there as that’s dependable of my bodyweight and shape when I begin, this just comes down to food choices and meal timing):
Meal 1 (6:30):
Extra virgin coconut oil stirred into a cup of black coffee
Avocado
Lean steak
Small salad
Omega 3 caps
Vit D3
Meal 2 (9:15):
Whole eggs
Meal 3 (11:45):
Sweet potato
Chickenbreast
Veggies
Meal 4 (14:15)
Chickenbreast or lean steak
Rolled oats with some whey protein
Meal 5 (16:30):
Rolled oats
Whey protein
Natty nut butter (peanut, cashew, almond or a mix)
15 minutes pre workout* (17:30):
Plazma
1 cup of black coffee
Micro PA
Peri workout* (17:45 ~ 19:45):
Plazma
Glutamine
Meal 6 (20:30):
White rice
Chickenbreast or white fish or lean steak
Meal 7 (22:30):
Zero fat cottage cheese or casein shake
natty nut butter (peanut, cashew, almond or a mix)
ZMA supplement
- On my rest day I replace my pre and peri workout nutrition for a cheatmeal (of which the size depens on my shape and feeling, more something for the taste buds than anything else)
My questions:
Would you add in or leave anything out of my next cycle posted above?
Same goes for my nutrition plan posted above.
Thanks in advance!!
