Shadow Pro Q&A 4.0

Shadow_Pro · December 12, 2015, 4:06am

[quote]MsTessW wrote:
Hi there!

I have a few questions for ya… First, I should probably tell you a lil about myself for the sake of my questions. I am a 24 year old girl, 5’7 and 158 lbs. I train 5-6 days a week (two upper/three lower body splits & do 2-3 HIIT sessions, 20-30 min)… I competed once in July 2014 and have yet to find my way back to the stage.

My ‘story’ is that of several competitors… I was dieted down to 118 lbs. I was on an extremely high protein (6-8 oz servings/ 5 x day), my carbs came from veggies and no additional fats (except from the few servings of red meat I was allowed every other day). I was also running 100 mug of T3 and 15-20 mg of Var a day… As ‘prescribed’ by my coach (using that term very fucking loosely).

After the show- I was told to stop the T3 and Var… Not cycled off either. In the month & a half following, I lost ALL energy and gained 35 lbs. that same coach told me to just continue dieting & do 90 min of cardio and I would bounce back… That never happened.

I still don’t feel that my metabolism has fully recovered. I’ve never had an issue with losing weight- the slightest changes would produce results… IIFYM does not work for me… I feel like I will only see slight results if my calories are low, 1200-1300 low… Which turns my training into shit. Now that I’ve accepted that my metabolism isn’t what it used to be, what advice or tips would you suggest?

I can’t seem to find a balance between my diet/training. I feel like I’m either over eating or over training or under eating and still over training… I do know I’ve put on at least 6-8 lbs of solid muscle, but I can’t seem to shed body fat! I’m juggling the same 10 lbs and I have no idea how to break this cycle? Any supplements or advice you can suggest would be greatly appreciated!!

Thank you so much![/quote]
Welcome to the forum.

Your story is pretty common unfortunately as there are a lot of stupid coaches out there. If you would taper down the t3 properly you probably wouldn’t have any issues.

You need to decide what your main goal is now, getting stronger or getting leaner and eat accordingly. Are you using indigo? This is a great way to improve food absorption and it can help fix your metabolism.
IIFYM doesn’t work for anyone who wants high level results. Go on a real diet. If I were you I’d hire a coach who actually knows what they’re doing (there’s a lot on this site)
Because of your history you probably need someone to build you a diet specific to your needs and adjust it regularly as your body adjusts.

General advise - keep carbs around the workout pre/intra/post. Use indigo religiously and at the same time try to bump up your food. Keep cardio year round to help improve metabolism.

Shadow_Pro · December 12, 2015, 4:11am

[quote]Sinum wrote:
Hey man!

Do you have any advice how to split up HCG dosages. I have 5000iu - 1ml. Can I split into 10x 0,1ml in insulin needles? That’s like 500iu per shot. How long can HCG stays in needle before going bad? I need to take 500iu twice per week, but can’t find any lowerdose packages. Do you prefer subc or IM? any difference?

For my next 12w-16w cycle I have something in mind:
Test E 400-600 mg EW
Tren E 400 mg EW
EQ 400-600 mg EW
Anadrol 50mg ED 1-4W

Help me with injections, how would you split your injections on this cycle? Needle is 2,5cc. In past cycles I did max 4cc per week so that wasn’t a big problem.

Nolva 20mg ed, HCG 250iu 2x per week (if I can find good way to split 5000iu).

Diet and training are on point, at least I am doing my best. Eating 6-8 times per day, training 6days per week. Maybe this time I’ll add some intraworkout. I can’t get “Plasma” the one that you are recomended, but I’ll try to find a substitue. Vitargo does the job as well?

GH and insulin question. I’ve been training 10years (28 years old, 100-110kg, 190cm), last 4 years I’ve been using ON and OFF, perfect scenario 12w ON, 8w OFF. Never used more then 500mg Test, 500mg *. I’ve never tried GH or inuslin, but I have them in mind for some time now. What would you suggest for first time?
4iu GH in the morning, before first meal?
10iu fast acting insulin post workout (safe mode)?

Thanks man![/quote]

You can split the 5000iu into 500iu shots and put them in the freezer.i would go IM with those shots.

For the cycle you suggested I would do 250 2x/week not 500

Since it’s all long esters I would just do twice a week of each.

Vitargo isn’t comparable to Plazma. I would figure out a way to get it if I were you.

GH depends on your goal. If you can only afford 4iu and you’re trying to get leaner first thing in the morning and if you’re trying to gain muscle do 4iu post workout. I would only do insulin preworkout and start sipping Plazma right after. Start around 6iu for the first few weeks and if it’s ok then bump it up to 8 and then 10

If you want more details please post a current pic and more info

Tadeu_Personal · December 12, 2015, 4:34pm

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
Hey SP, greetings once again from your brazilian friend… just finished a nine week cycle of trembolone acetate and test propi … really satisfied with the result, but I must say that propionate is not for everyone … shit hurts like hell … even changing sites each time my glutes-delts-quads are sore as never been before!

I intend to keep for now tamox 20mg/everyday, HCG 500ui/twice a week and add some Alpha Male… two whole bottles. After that I was thinking of another bulking cycle with dianabol, nadrolone and cypionate… what do you think? Is it worth to take a month off or should I go on with another cycle?

I will turn 40yo next tuesday . do u think I can still built some muscle on my frame or I would rather just keeping a low dose of test year round? Since you started this thread (the first one) I gained 2,5Kg of muscle mass… blood work is fine (some small issues concerning liver enzymes during the cycle, but I think it supposed to increase a little bit right?)… but I noted that things started to slow down now… this last cycle for instance, I was on my 7th week and no results whatsoever and suddenly BOOM! Abs and veins popping everywhere… so, my question is if you think it is worthy trying to get big after my 40s?

Thanks[/quote]

Looking very good… You added nice mass since the last time I’ve seen you and I’m seeing constant progression here. Yes, prop really hurts sometimes it really depends how they make it in the lab but it’s definitely a painful shot.
Arnica cream after the shot can help.

For your bulking cycle I would go with EQ instead of deca and I remember you had issues with dbol so make sure you’re using liver support and have a small amount of dbol with each meal (10mg)

Wait a month and start a cycle then. Always good to give your system time to recover.

I absolutely think you can still put muscle on your frame. 40 is not a death sentence, there are a lot of good bodybuilders in their 40’s… Maybe not pros but they’re definitely out there.

Some issues with liver enzymes are expected while on juice but as long as you’re using tudca, NAC and sam-e it should keep you pretty safe. Remember that gaining muscle is not always a linear process… Some cycles will be better than others but as long as you’re training hard and keeping a good diet the gains will come. From knowing you in this forum I know you’re putting in the work and I don’t think age is an issue

You’re doing great. Keep it Up.[/quote]

Hey SP, Your Opinion Is Highly Respected and Much Appreciated! Gonna train legs now like if there is no tomorrow! keep you posted my friend

Smokeyjoe44 · December 14, 2015, 9:33pm

Hi SP, thanks for the mountain of knowledge you provide to all of us. It’s much appreciated! I’m currently on the 4th week of my cycle.

32yrs

Test Cyp 275mg@ 2 1/2 week
Tren Ace 100mg@EoD

On the days I take my Test an hr or so after the injection I feel very aggressive and on edge. I like this feeling, but after about 2-3hrs the feeling subsides. Should this be the case if test cyp has such a long half life? I’ve learned that I’m estrogen sensitive and my body over compensates to try and keep up with the amount of test I’m using. So at the moment I’m keeping the estrogen in check with some letro that I have. They’re 1.25mg tabs and every 3 days I may take 1/4 to 1/2 a tab. I don’t have any arimidex on hand or I would use that. I can get some Nolvadex, do you think that would be a better option? If so, at what dose? Is it possible such a small amount of letro could be lowering Estro so much to the point that the test feels less effective? All in all the cycle is going well, sides are low and the gains are consistent. My main question, is there a way to keep that aggressive feeling longer between injections? Without the letro, my libido goes to crap. With it, a small breeze can brush up against the shorts and its go time with the gf. Thanks a ton for all your time and effort!

quadsRus · December 16, 2015, 10:33pm

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]quadsRus wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]quadsRus wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]quadsRus wrote:
Hey Shadow great threads you have going on, very informative which is great.
onto my question I’m on a 14 w cycle and I have 6 weeks to go.

I want to throw in winstrol in the last part of my cycle but not sure how much to take and want your advice.

the compounds I’m on are:
test P - 300mg/w
mast P - 300mg/w
tren A - 300mg/w

What do you think of this cycle I know its not a huge amount just wanted to cruise it up to now. I take nolva ed I am prone to getting gyno and I have had the surgery to remove it as well.

My last question is what would be the best approach for pct in my case, I’ve read a lot of stuff on it but am still unclear on how to go about it. [/quote]

You can run winstrol at 50mg for the last 6 weeks.

You can probably get away with HCG, nolva and AlphaMale. You will possibly need clomid but not for sure. I hope you’re taking HCG throughout this whole cycle.
[/quote]

I haven’t been running HCG in my cycle but I’ll include from now.

What would be the optimal PCT as in dosages and length wise?[/quote]

For pct dosages:
Nolva 40/40/20/20/20
HCG 500iu 3x/week (week 1-2) 500iu/week (week 3-4)
2 full bottles of AlphaMale.

How much HCG should I be taking through out my cycle? Does the dosage of HCG differ in pct if you haven’t been running HCG through out your cycle?
Sorry if I seem like a pest just want to get as much info as possible.
[/quote]

Throughout the cycle I usually run 250iu 2x/week starting in the 2nd week.
The dose of HCG will change depending if you used it or not during the cycle. Not using it would be a big mistake but your cycle was pretty mild so you might get away with the pct I gave you.

If your blood tests don’t come back normal after then we might need to try something more aggressive.
[/quote]

Understood :). So when should I do my blood test and what should I be testing for apart from free floating testosterone?

akaw · November 30, 2015, 4:19pm

Hey Shadow, I really appreciate what you’re doing !

My question is, is it normal for a young male to get a worsening of (very mild preexisting ) gyno from 125mg of test E, with 50mg of legit proviron by bayer ED and 0.625mg (1/4 of a 2.5mg pill) of pharmaceutical letro ED ? Doesn’t make sense at all imo.

thelazygent · December 10, 2015, 3:22am

Thanks for taking the time to answer all these questions. It must be very time consuming.

What do you think the Men’s Physique/Classic Physique guys are using? OR maybe a better question is what are they not using in regards to not getting the bodybuilder gut? What causes that in your opinion? I have heard HGH, Slin, and alot of food, but i want your insight.
What is your opinion on wheat? Some people say that Whole Grain pasta, bread is bad, while others like Jim Stopanni says its good.
Also how much fat do you consume a day. Again Jim Stopanni says that your should take .5g per pound of bodyweight. Do you agree with that? He seems to be not the norm . For me that would be 100g a day. Seems high.
I am considering doing Classic Physique, but not sure bc I may not be able to put on enough size. I will at least do Mens Physique. But what do you think of this cycle? Too much too little? Never done Primo or Tren. I have done Test and Masteron

Test P = 210 mg a week
Primo E= 500 mg a week
Tren A = 210 a week
Arimidex .5 ED
Caber

What is better Primo or Masteron?

MsTessW · December 10, 2015, 8:43pm

Hi there!

I have a few questions for ya… First, I should probably tell you a lil about myself for the sake of my questions. I am a 24 year old girl, 5’7 and 158 lbs. I train 5-6 days a week (two upper/three lower body splits & do 2-3 HIIT sessions, 20-30 min)… I competed once in July 2014 and have yet to find my way back to the stage.

My ‘story’ is that of several competitors… I was dieted down to 118 lbs. I was on an extremely high protein (6-8 oz servings/ 5 x day), my carbs came from veggies and no additional fats (except from the few servings of red meat I was allowed every other day). I was also running 100 mug of T3 and 15-20 mg of Var a day… As ‘prescribed’ by my coach (using that term very fucking loosely).

After the show- I was told to stop the T3 and Var… Not cycled off either. In the month & a half following, I lost ALL energy and gained 35 lbs. that same coach told me to just continue dieting & do 90 min of cardio and I would bounce back… That never happened.

I still don’t feel that my metabolism has fully recovered. I’ve never had an issue with losing weight- the slightest changes would produce results… IIFYM does not work for me… I feel like I will only see slight results if my calories are low, 1200-1300 low… Which turns my training into shit. Now that I’ve accepted that my metabolism isn’t what it used to be, what advice or tips would you suggest?

I can’t seem to find a balance between my diet/training. I feel like I’m either over eating or over training or under eating and still over training… I do know I’ve put on at least 6-8 lbs of solid muscle, but I can’t seem to shed body fat! I’m juggling the same 10 lbs and I have no idea how to break this cycle? Any supplements or advice you can suggest would be greatly appreciated!!

Thank you so much!

Shadow_Pro · December 19, 2015, 1:24am

[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]Tadeu Personal wrote:
Hey SP, greetings once again from your brazilian friend… just finished a nine week cycle of trembolone acetate and test propi … really satisfied with the result, but I must say that propionate is not for everyone … shit hurts like hell … even changing sites each time my glutes-delts-quads are sore as never been before!

I intend to keep for now tamox 20mg/everyday, HCG 500ui/twice a week and add some Alpha Male… two whole bottles. After that I was thinking of another bulking cycle with dianabol, nadrolone and cypionate… what do you think? Is it worth to take a month off or should I go on with another cycle?

I will turn 40yo next tuesday . do u think I can still built some muscle on my frame or I would rather just keeping a low dose of test year round? Since you started this thread (the first one) I gained 2,5Kg of muscle mass… blood work is fine (some small issues concerning liver enzymes during the cycle, but I think it supposed to increase a little bit right?)… but I noted that things started to slow down now… this last cycle for instance, I was on my 7th week and no results whatsoever and suddenly BOOM! Abs and veins popping everywhere… so, my question is if you think it is worthy trying to get big after my 40s?

Thanks[/quote]

Looking very good… You added nice mass since the last time I’ve seen you and I’m seeing constant progression here. Yes, prop really hurts sometimes it really depends how they make it in the lab but it’s definitely a painful shot.
Arnica cream after the shot can help.

For your bulking cycle I would go with EQ instead of deca and I remember you had issues with dbol so make sure you’re using liver support and have a small amount of dbol with each meal (10mg)

Wait a month and start a cycle then. Always good to give your system time to recover.

I absolutely think you can still put muscle on your frame. 40 is not a death sentence, there are a lot of good bodybuilders in their 40’s… Maybe not pros but they’re definitely out there.

Some issues with liver enzymes are expected while on juice but as long as you’re using tudca, NAC and sam-e it should keep you pretty safe. Remember that gaining muscle is not always a linear process… Some cycles will be better than others but as long as you’re training hard and keeping a good diet the gains will come. From knowing you in this forum I know you’re putting in the work and I don’t think age is an issue

You’re doing great. Keep it Up.[/quote]

Hey SP, Your Opinion Is Highly Respected and Much Appreciated! Gonna train legs now like if there is no tomorrow! keep you posted my friend
[/quote]

You’re very welcome!

Shadow_Pro · December 19, 2015, 1:26am

[quote]Smokeyjoe44 wrote:
Hi SP, thanks for the mountain of knowledge you provide to all of us. It’s much appreciated! I’m currently on the 4th week of my cycle.

32yrs

Test Cyp 275mg@ 2 1/2 week
Tren Ace 100mg@EoD

On the days I take my Test an hr or so after the injection I feel very aggressive and on edge. I like this feeling, but after about 2-3hrs the feeling subsides. Should this be the case if test cyp has such a long half life? I’ve learned that I’m estrogen sensitive and my body over compensates to try and keep up with the amount of test I’m using. So at the moment I’m keeping the estrogen in check with some letro that I have. They’re 1.25mg tabs and every 3 days I may take 1/4 to 1/2 a tab. I don’t have any arimidex on hand or I would use that. I can get some Nolvadex, do you think that would be a better option? If so, at what dose? Is it possible such a small amount of letro could be lowering Estro so much to the point that the test feels less effective? All in all the cycle is going well, sides are low and the gains are consistent. My main question, is there a way to keep that aggressive feeling longer between injections? Without the letro, my libido goes to crap. With it, a small breeze can brush up against the shorts and its go time with the gf. Thanks a ton for all your time and effort![/quote]

You can try nolva at 20mg/day, it generally works good for most people. Letro is very aggressive and since you’re taking a relatively low dose of test this might be the case.

Shadow_Pro · December 19, 2015, 1:27am

[quote]quadsRus wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]quadsRus wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]quadsRus wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]quadsRus wrote:
Hey Shadow great threads you have going on, very informative which is great.
onto my question I’m on a 14 w cycle and I have 6 weeks to go.

I want to throw in winstrol in the last part of my cycle but not sure how much to take and want your advice.

the compounds I’m on are:
test P - 300mg/w
mast P - 300mg/w
tren A - 300mg/w

What do you think of this cycle I know its not a huge amount just wanted to cruise it up to now. I take nolva ed I am prone to getting gyno and I have had the surgery to remove it as well.

My last question is what would be the best approach for pct in my case, I’ve read a lot of stuff on it but am still unclear on how to go about it. [/quote]

You can run winstrol at 50mg for the last 6 weeks.

You can probably get away with HCG, nolva and AlphaMale. You will possibly need clomid but not for sure. I hope you’re taking HCG throughout this whole cycle.
[/quote]

I haven’t been running HCG in my cycle but I’ll include from now.

What would be the optimal PCT as in dosages and length wise?[/quote]

For pct dosages:
Nolva 40/40/20/20/20
HCG 500iu 3x/week (week 1-2) 500iu/week (week 3-4)
2 full bottles of AlphaMale.

How much HCG should I be taking through out my cycle? Does the dosage of HCG differ in pct if you haven’t been running HCG through out your cycle?
Sorry if I seem like a pest just want to get as much info as possible.
[/quote]

Throughout the cycle I usually run 250iu 2x/week starting in the 2nd week.
The dose of HCG will change depending if you used it or not during the cycle. Not using it would be a big mistake but your cycle was pretty mild so you might get away with the pct I gave you.

If your blood tests don’t come back normal after then we might need to try something more aggressive.
[/quote]

Understood :). So when should I do my blood test and what should I be testing for apart from free floating testosterone?[/quote]

I would do the blood tests once you’ve finished all of your pct and just get a general hormone panel done.

MsTessW · December 19, 2015, 12:30pm

Would I benefit from a low dose of T3 now? Or is that something I should save for show prep? I am planning on competing again in July 2016… I read an article on here about T3 and how taking just 12.5 mcg over an extended period of time can produce results and not have a negative impact on your thyroid… Thoughts on the validity of that?

I am not currently using Indigo, but I have seen it in my dad’s supp cabinet (he only uses Biotest products). I’ll definitely look’r up and give it a try! You mentioned that there are a lot of great coaches on this site… Could you give me any recommendations on anyone specific? As I said before, I am planning on competing again in the upcoming year and my last coach was an idiot… Never want that experience again.

Thank you for your response/advice!!! It’s much appreciated

HusseinAli · December 20, 2015, 2:09am

thanks for the knowledge you provide, I’m new to this forum, but i have been looking for something like this for my entire life. it’s a great chance and honor to interact with a pro bodybuilder.

I have been using steroids for 5 years or more i’m 31 YO but i’m not satisfied with how i look and how much i gained, but, so far i didn’t use insulin or GH, so i’m thinking of running them along with AAS as follows:

*week 1 to 16:
-testosterone Enanthate 1000 mg /EW
-Nandrolone Decanoate 500 mg/EW
-and i’m thinking of adding 600 mg of EQ
*week 5 to 10:

Anadrol 100 mg / ED
*week 5 to 16
Trenbolone Acetate 100 mg / EOD

as for GH I’ll do 10 iu/ED
as for insulin i’ll do from 5 to 10 iu / ED for 4 weeks only

HCG throughout the whole cycle, liver 52 or legalone for liver functionality, Arimidex 0.5mg/EOD, Nolva and hcg for the PCT.
I have enough info about the insulin but what i’m not sure about is the best timing for administration, is it before training or after? with GH at the same time or … i’m a little bit confused?

I just wanna get really big
your guidance will be highly appreciated

Shadow_Pro · December 20, 2015, 7:41pm

[quote]MsTessW wrote:
Would I benefit from a low dose of T3 now? Or is that something I should save for show prep? I am planning on competing again in July 2016… I read an article on here about T3 and how taking just 12.5 mcg over an extended period of time can produce results and not have a negative impact on your thyroid… Thoughts on the validity of that?

I am not currently using Indigo, but I have seen it in my dad’s supp cabinet (he only uses Biotest products). I’ll definitely look’r up and give it a try! You mentioned that there are a lot of great coaches on this site… Could you give me any recommendations on anyone specific? As I said before, I am planning on competing again in the upcoming year and my last coach was an idiot… Never want that experience again.

Thank you for your response/advice!!! It’s much appreciated
[/quote]

For t3 at a low dose that might work but it really depends on the person. Considering your past I would probably just save it for the show. Indigo will do wonders for you I would give it a try.

As for coaches on this site I believe john meadows, Amit Sapir and Christian Thibaudeau do show prep.

Shadow_Pro · December 20, 2015, 7:44pm

[quote]HusseinAli wrote:
thanks for the knowledge you provide, I’m new to this forum, but i have been looking for something like this for my entire life. it’s a great chance and honor to interact with a pro bodybuilder.

I have been using steroids for 5 years or more i’m 31 YO but i’m not satisfied with how i look and how much i gained, but, so far i didn’t use insulin or GH, so i’m thinking of running them along with AAS as follows:

*week 1 to 16:
-testosterone Enanthate 1000 mg /EW
-Nandrolone Decanoate 500 mg/EW
-and i’m thinking of adding 600 mg of EQ
*week 5 to 10:

Anadrol 100 mg / ED
*week 5 to 16
Trenbolone Acetate 100 mg / EOD

as for GH I’ll do 10 iu/ED
as for insulin i’ll do from 5 to 10 iu / ED for 4 weeks only

HCG throughout the whole cycle, liver 52 or legalone for liver functionality, Arimidex 0.5mg/EOD, Nolva and hcg for the PCT.
I have enough info about the insulin but what i’m not sure about is the best timing for administration, is it before training or after? with GH at the same time or … i’m a little bit confused?

I just wanna get really big
your guidance will be highly appreciated [/quote]

Can you please post a current picture so I can give you better advice. Once I see your current condition I can give you more accurate information.

I wrote a lot about GH and insulin timing in the previous threads.

quadsRus · December 21, 2015, 2:13am