[quote]maad_alex wrote:
Hi Shadow Pro,
I am currently on my third week of PCT after my first cycle that you helped me with a few months back. PCT is going well, i have managed to keep my strenght (even small increases here and there) in the compound movements and generally just feel a bit tired.
I really appreciate your help with my first cycle and was wondering if you could give some input on my second cycle and also answer a question that arose during the my first cycle.
The cycle i ran was a basic 12 Weeks with 500mg test-e/week 250ui hcg x2 / week & 0,12-0,25 Arimidex ED and made some great gains, have managed to keep most of it - some heavy bloat.
I know I’ll be running several cycles over the coming years so i want to keep it as basic as possible in the beginning before / if i start venturing in to the more heavy doses & substances.
My second planned cycle look like the following:
Week 1-6 Dbol 40mg/ED
Week 1-12 Test-e 500mg/week
Week 1-12 HCG 250-500x2 / week
Week 1-12 Nolva 20mg/ED
PCT: Nolva 40/40/20/20
The goal is to gain as leanly as possible.
My questions about the cycle:
- Dbol:
- Should i start at a lower dose, 10-20mg/ed and increase by 10mg per week or jump on 40mg/ed directly?
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Should i discontinue HCG when cycle finnishes or is it good to run it through PCT aswell? I’ve read thats its good to go of it after the last injection of test so that the body can recover on its own & that hcg would impede the bodys natural recovery.
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Does nolva help with bloat or is arimidex needed to keep it at bay? I bloated pretty heavily on my first cycle of just test in spite of running arimidex and know that dbol can cause some heavy bloat aswell. If i bloat too much is it better to up the nolva dose to 30/40mg ED or should i add arimidex to the mix aswell?
The questions that arose during my cycle is something i feel is very basic, i’ve been reading around but i cant seem to find a good answer to it so hopefully you can be my knight in shining armor.
When you’re on a mass gaining cycle should your calorie surplus be different from if you’re trying to gain off cycle? When i gain i usually eat a surplus of calories that puts me on a weight gain of about 1 pound per week. The steroids makes it possible for the body to utilize the food you put in to it at a very improved rate, so does this mean i should eat the same surplus and will just gain a ton more or should the surplus be increased? I know this is very individual and that it comes down to assessing your progress during the cycle, however during my cycle i found it hard to gauge my gains, if i was putting on too much fat, because of the bloat so i felt a bit lost.
During my cycle i used the approach of “the body can utilize much more calories” so i went for a bigger surplus than i normally would i put on more fat than i had hoped for.
I’ll start off my next cycle at a lower surplus and make gradual increases to keep the fatgain at bay, but any general thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time![/quote]
Hi,
Great post. I’m glad I was able to help!
If you could post a current picture I will be able to be more specific then I can see how much water/fat you have gained (if any)
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Week 1 - 20mg
Week 2 - 30mg
Week 3 - 40mg
Week 4-6 - 50mg
Everything else looks on point
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I like to keep the HCG in post cycle until 1 week before I drop the nolva. So the last week of the pct will be nolvadex only.
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Nolvadex helps me with bloat even more than adex. If 20 doesn’t cut it you can always increase it to 30 or 40
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I would probably stick with a lower calorie surplus as it will help you achieve leaner gains. You can try a carb cycling approach and eat a bit higher surplus in your heavy training days and a bit less on your light/off training days.