Shadow Pro Q&A 4.0

[quote]bill2 wrote:
hello shadow…
im a non competitive bodybuilder 34 years old prescribed from an endo on 80 mg of test weekly…
a question for you…

  • what would you recomend for a blast cycle to use betewen hrt in order to continue building fat free mass at a respectable rate but in the healthiest possible manner? as far as compounds and dosages…?
  • for injectable AAS …does the ester plays a role ( fast vs slow for exaple test enanthate vs prop ) in the way the liver handle the drug…?
    -from your experience does injectables have the potential to strain the liver? and if so what would be a maximum dose of injectables only we can use safely without any inpact on the liver?
    [/quote]

Can you please post a current picture? In order to recommend a cycle I’d like to see your current condition and overall muscle mass.

Every steroid including injectables has potential to strain the liver. It’s very individual and varies from person to person and depends on the dosage as well. Usually short esters are more aggressive than long.

[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:
Shadow,

I’ve recently had some IGF 1R3 fall in my lap, strange i know.

I’ve always been curious about it but, because its hard to find legit stuff, no one really knows about it.

What is the best way to use this substance?

and what can I expect from this?[/quote]

Start with 50mcg post workout directly into the muscle you trained. Increase it by 25mcg every week and only use it on training days. No more than 6 weeks or your body will start to build a tolerance to it.

It will give you better pumps, better recovery and encourage hypertrophy tremendously if it’s the real thing. If it’s real you will notice a dramatic difference. It’s as good as GH if it’s real.[/quote]

will there be effects overall like GH or will it only have localized effects in the muscle where its injected? overall fatloss… etc…

also if i have a muscle group thats lagging behind could i just use it to bring that muscle group up?

I train chest twice per week (trying to bring it up). what would the protocol be to use it just for my chest?

thanks,

Tyler[/quote]

Mostly localized effects but it definitely contributes to overall fat loss as well. If you want to use it just for your chest you can inject it in your chest bilaterally. If you do it like this then you can use it longer for about 8-10 weeks without developing a tolerance.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:
Shadow,

I’ve recently had some IGF 1R3 fall in my lap, strange i know.

I’ve always been curious about it but, because its hard to find legit stuff, no one really knows about it.

What is the best way to use this substance?

and what can I expect from this?[/quote]

Start with 50mcg post workout directly into the muscle you trained. Increase it by 25mcg every week and only use it on training days. No more than 6 weeks or your body will start to build a tolerance to it.

It will give you better pumps, better recovery and encourage hypertrophy tremendously if it’s the real thing. If it’s real you will notice a dramatic difference. It’s as good as GH if it’s real.[/quote]

will there be effects overall like GH or will it only have localized effects in the muscle where its injected? overall fatloss… etc…

also if i have a muscle group thats lagging behind could i just use it to bring that muscle group up?

I train chest twice per week (trying to bring it up). what would the protocol be to use it just for my chest?

thanks,

Tyler[/quote]

Mostly localized effects but it definitely contributes to overall fat loss as well. If you want to use it just for your chest you can inject it in your chest bilaterally. If you do it like this then you can use it longer for about 8-10 weeks without developing a tolerance.[/quote]

just to make sure i understand this (because i know its very expensive and hard to find) after each chest work out i would inject 50mcg into each pec immediately after my workout. each week i would add 25mcg to each injection making the 2nd week an injection of 75mcg per pec after each workout.

is this correct?

ty

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]bill2 wrote:
hello shadow…
im a non competitive bodybuilder 34 years old prescribed from an endo on 80 mg of test weekly…
a question for you…

  • what would you recomend for a blast cycle to use betewen hrt in order to continue building fat free mass at a respectable rate but in the healthiest possible manner? as far as compounds and dosages…?
  • for injectable AAS …does the ester plays a role ( fast vs slow for exaple test enanthate vs prop ) in the way the liver handle the drug…?
    -from your experience does injectables have the potential to strain the liver? and if so what would be a maximum dose of injectables only we can use safely without any inpact on the liver?
    [/quote]

Can you please post a current picture? In order to recommend a cycle I’d like to see your current condition and overall muscle mass.

Every steroid including injectables has potential to strain the liver. It’s very individual and varies from person to person and depends on the dosage as well. Usually short esters are more aggressive than long.
[/quote]
yes
those are a month ago…cycle was 250 test e 200 primo 200 masteron weekly with 12,5 aromasin and toward the last 4 weeks 75 proviron …82kg bodywheight…
right now just my hrt dose at 80 mg test weekly …bodywheight is same but smoother condition…

one more

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]C33G wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]C33G wrote:
Currently running

750mg/wk sus
600mg/wk tren E
Nolva 20mg ED
HCG 500iu/ wk

Been on this for approx 5 weeks

Experiencing little pumps in the gym and lack of appetite. Im experiencing many tren sides with this; aggression, short temper, sweats, lack of sleep.

Was thinking of lowering the dose to try combat this or would the addition of an AI solve any of these issues by lowering E>?[/quote]

Are you using caber? This will noticeably decrease the tren side effects. Try .5mg e3d to start with. Also, increase the test to 1g/week and it can help.

On a side note: are you training at least 5 days a week or your body won’t be using this appropriately and it can increase side effects. With a cycle like this you should be training very hard.[/quote]

No not taking caber, was thinking of trying 0.5MG adex a week. Also felt like erections arent as hard as they used to be? Yeah training 5/6 days a week currently.[/quote]

Sounds like prolactin issues. I would try the caber as I don’t think the arimidex will help here.[/quote]

Ok, i will do & report back; however, i thought if i maintain E within a healthy range prolactin issues wont occur in the first place?

[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:
Shadow,

I’ve recently had some IGF 1R3 fall in my lap, strange i know.

I’ve always been curious about it but, because its hard to find legit stuff, no one really knows about it.

What is the best way to use this substance?

and what can I expect from this?[/quote]

Start with 50mcg post workout directly into the muscle you trained. Increase it by 25mcg every week and only use it on training days. No more than 6 weeks or your body will start to build a tolerance to it.

It will give you better pumps, better recovery and encourage hypertrophy tremendously if it’s the real thing. If it’s real you will notice a dramatic difference. It’s as good as GH if it’s real.[/quote]

will there be effects overall like GH or will it only have localized effects in the muscle where its injected? overall fatloss… etc…

also if i have a muscle group thats lagging behind could i just use it to bring that muscle group up?

I train chest twice per week (trying to bring it up). what would the protocol be to use it just for my chest?

thanks,

Tyler[/quote]

Mostly localized effects but it definitely contributes to overall fat loss as well. If you want to use it just for your chest you can inject it in your chest bilaterally. If you do it like this then you can use it longer for about 8-10 weeks without developing a tolerance.[/quote]

just to make sure i understand this (because i know its very expensive and hard to find) after each chest work out i would inject 50mcg into each pec immediately after my workout. each week i would add 25mcg to each injection making the 2nd week an injection of 75mcg per pec after each workout.

is this correct?

ty[/quote]

I mean start at 50mcg total, so it would be 25mcg in each pec and the next week would be 75 divided into both sides. I wouldn’t go over 200mcg in total at one time.

[quote]bill2 wrote:
one more[/quote]

You can try something basic like this:

Test-P @ 100mg EOD
Tren-A @ 100mg EOD
Mast-P @ 100mg EOD
Nolvadex @ 10mg everyday
HCG @ 250iu 2x/week
Winstrol @ 25-50mg/week (first 4 weeks)

Take liver support with this like Tudca and NAC if you’re worried.
There isn’t anything that won’t have any effect on the liver at all… Even medication for a simple cold will have effects on the liver.

[quote]C33G wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]C33G wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]C33G wrote:
Currently running

750mg/wk sus
600mg/wk tren E
Nolva 20mg ED
HCG 500iu/ wk

Been on this for approx 5 weeks

Experiencing little pumps in the gym and lack of appetite. Im experiencing many tren sides with this; aggression, short temper, sweats, lack of sleep.

Was thinking of lowering the dose to try combat this or would the addition of an AI solve any of these issues by lowering E>?[/quote]

Are you using caber? This will noticeably decrease the tren side effects. Try .5mg e3d to start with. Also, increase the test to 1g/week and it can help.

On a side note: are you training at least 5 days a week or your body won’t be using this appropriately and it can increase side effects. With a cycle like this you should be training very hard.[/quote]

No not taking caber, was thinking of trying 0.5MG adex a week. Also felt like erections arent as hard as they used to be? Yeah training 5/6 days a week currently.[/quote]

Sounds like prolactin issues. I would try the caber as I don’t think the arimidex will help here.[/quote]

Ok, i will do & report back; however, i thought if i maintain E within a healthy range prolactin issues wont occur in the first place?[/quote]

Estrogen and Progesterone are two different things and controlling estrogen won’t necessarily prevent progesterone issues and this is why you need different drugs to control it.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]bill2 wrote:
one more[/quote]

You can try something basic like this:

Test-P @ 100mg EOD
Tren-A @ 100mg EOD
Mast-P @ 100mg EOD
Nolvadex @ 10mg everyday
HCG @ 250iu 2x/week
Winstrol @ 25-50mg/week (first 4 weeks)

Take liver support with this like Tudca and NAC if you’re worried.
There isn’t anything that won’t have any effect on the liver at all… Even medication for a simple cold will have effects on the liver.[/quote]
thanks shadow…
-1)i saw you recomended fast acting injectables…that means that although fast acting the liver handles them the same way as slower injectables?
-2) you recomended 1000 mg weekly of total injectable AAS . i assume you consider this amount a prety safe and liver-health friendly right ?
at what amound of total mg do you think we are starting to put more unnesesary stress at health markers? ( liver ,prostate, hypertension ,cholesterol etc…)
_-3) as i said i have no inspiration to compete but continue to build muscle at the healthiest way possible …
is this recomended cycle from you, the best possible, according to your experiences towards those goals of mine?
keep up the good work bro!

Hi shadow you might have already answered this or at mentioned the subject at some point. so my apologies if you have. What’s your opinion on peptides particularly ghrp6 was going to add it in along with the hgh on my cycle.

Hi Shadow Pro,

I am currently on my third week of PCT after my first cycle that you helped me with a few months back. PCT is going well, i have managed to keep my strenght (even small increases here and there) in the compound movements and generally just feel a bit tired.

I really appreciate your help with my first cycle and was wondering if you could give some input on my second cycle and also answer a question that arose during the my first cycle.

The cycle i ran was a basic 12 Weeks with 500mg test-e/week 250ui hcg x2 / week & 0,12-0,25 Arimidex ED and made some great gains, have managed to keep most of it - some heavy bloat.

I know I’ll be running several cycles over the coming years so i want to keep it as basic as possible in the beginning before / if i start venturing in to the more heavy doses & substances.

My second planned cycle look like the following:

Week 1-6 Dbol 40mg/ED
Week 1-12 Test-e 500mg/week
Week 1-12 HCG 250-500x2 / week
Week 1-12 Nolva 20mg/ED

PCT: Nolva 40/40/20/20

The goal is to gain as leanly as possible.

My questions about the cycle:

  1. Dbol:
  • Should i start at a lower dose, 10-20mg/ed and increase by 10mg per week or jump on 40mg/ed directly?
  1. Should i discontinue HCG when cycle finnishes or is it good to run it through PCT aswell? I’ve read thats its good to go of it after the last injection of test so that the body can recover on its own & that hcg would impede the bodys natural recovery.

  2. Does nolva help with bloat or is arimidex needed to keep it at bay? I bloated pretty heavily on my first cycle of just test in spite of running arimidex and know that dbol can cause some heavy bloat aswell. If i bloat too much is it better to up the nolva dose to 30/40mg ED or should i add arimidex to the mix aswell?

The questions that arose during my cycle is something i feel is very basic, i’ve been reading around but i cant seem to find a good answer to it so hopefully you can be my knight in shining armor.

When you’re on a mass gaining cycle should your calorie surplus be different from if you’re trying to gain off cycle? When i gain i usually eat a surplus of calories that puts me on a weight gain of about 1 pound per week. The steroids makes it possible for the body to utilize the food you put in to it at a very improved rate, so does this mean i should eat the same surplus and will just gain a ton more or should the surplus be increased? I know this is very individual and that it comes down to assessing your progress during the cycle, however during my cycle i found it hard to gauge my gains, if i was putting on too much fat, because of the bloat so i felt a bit lost.

During my cycle i used the approach of “the body can utilize much more calories” so i went for a bigger surplus than i normally would i put on more fat than i had hoped for.

I’ll start off my next cycle at a lower surplus and make gradual increases to keep the fatgain at bay, but any general thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time!


Hey Shadow I haven’t been on here in awhile, but I had asked you if you were going to ever take any online clients. I’m sad to see you’re not able to, but glad to see you’re still on here answering so many questions.
A little background on me and what I’m looking to do. I haven’t used anything in 10 years. I believe it was 200mg of EQ a week, 250mg of Sust a week and 40mg of d-bol EOD. I could be off on some it’s been a long time. this time around I was probably going to go on 500mg of test-e and one other compound for 12 weeks. I’ll take Hcg and Alpha Male throughout and post cycle as well. I’m looking to add some quality dense muscle. My last cycle 10 years ago I gained a ton of weight on very low dosages, yes I had some big time water bloat too. I would like to avoid that this time around. Anyway, I attached a pic and was hoping my bodyfat was low enough to start this, also if you have any other recommendations. Thanks again man I appreciate what you’re doing on here.

Hey shadow thanks for your time. My rat is currently taking 625 test e and 300 deca while blasting and cruising. As long as he controls his estrogen should his prolactin levels/libido be alright? Also what are your helpful hints on back acne, thank you.

[quote]bill2 wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]bill2 wrote:
one more[/quote]

You can try something basic like this:

Test-P @ 100mg EOD
Tren-A @ 100mg EOD
Mast-P @ 100mg EOD
Nolvadex @ 10mg everyday
HCG @ 250iu 2x/week
Winstrol @ 25-50mg/week (first 4 weeks)

Take liver support with this like Tudca and NAC if you’re worried.
There isn’t anything that won’t have any effect on the liver at all… Even medication for a simple cold will have effects on the liver.[/quote]
thanks shadow…
-1)i saw you recomended fast acting injectables…that means that although fast acting the liver handles them the same way as slower injectables?
-2) you recomended 1000 mg weekly of total injectable AAS . i assume you consider this amount a prety safe and liver-health friendly right ?
at what amound of total mg do you think we are starting to put more unnesesary stress at health markers? ( liver ,prostate, hypertension ,cholesterol etc…)
_-3) as i said i have no inspiration to compete but continue to build muscle at the healthiest way possible …
is this recomended cycle from you, the best possible, according to your experiences towards those goals of mine?
keep up the good work bro![/quote]

  1. Every cycle you do will have some effect on the liver. There’s always some kind of a risk with any cycle. These dosages are considered very low and as long as you’re taking your liver support you shouldn’t have any issue.
    2.in terms of the goals you mentioned this cycle would be the best option for both results and health. Everyone is different, some people can handle a lot more without any health issues. Some people will take very small amounts and experience negative side effects so it really depends on the individual. This is why I always recommend to start low and see how the body responds.
  2. Yes. If you want to be extra cautious you can drop the tren and the winstrol and just do test & mast but it won’t give you the same results especially in these dosages.

[quote]ginston wrote:
Hi shadow you might have already answered this or at mentioned the subject at some point. so my apologies if you have. What’s your opinion on peptides particularly ghrp6 was going to add it in along with the hgh on my cycle.[/quote]

I’m not a big fan of peptides but this specific one will make you hungrier. If this is an issue for you then it will be great for that specific purpose but no other significant benefits in terms of results.

[quote]maad_alex wrote:
Hi Shadow Pro,

I am currently on my third week of PCT after my first cycle that you helped me with a few months back. PCT is going well, i have managed to keep my strenght (even small increases here and there) in the compound movements and generally just feel a bit tired.

I really appreciate your help with my first cycle and was wondering if you could give some input on my second cycle and also answer a question that arose during the my first cycle.

The cycle i ran was a basic 12 Weeks with 500mg test-e/week 250ui hcg x2 / week & 0,12-0,25 Arimidex ED and made some great gains, have managed to keep most of it - some heavy bloat.

I know I’ll be running several cycles over the coming years so i want to keep it as basic as possible in the beginning before / if i start venturing in to the more heavy doses & substances.

My second planned cycle look like the following:

Week 1-6 Dbol 40mg/ED
Week 1-12 Test-e 500mg/week
Week 1-12 HCG 250-500x2 / week
Week 1-12 Nolva 20mg/ED

PCT: Nolva 40/40/20/20

The goal is to gain as leanly as possible.

My questions about the cycle:

  1. Dbol:
  • Should i start at a lower dose, 10-20mg/ed and increase by 10mg per week or jump on 40mg/ed directly?
  1. Should i discontinue HCG when cycle finnishes or is it good to run it through PCT aswell? I’ve read thats its good to go of it after the last injection of test so that the body can recover on its own & that hcg would impede the bodys natural recovery.

  2. Does nolva help with bloat or is arimidex needed to keep it at bay? I bloated pretty heavily on my first cycle of just test in spite of running arimidex and know that dbol can cause some heavy bloat aswell. If i bloat too much is it better to up the nolva dose to 30/40mg ED or should i add arimidex to the mix aswell?

The questions that arose during my cycle is something i feel is very basic, i’ve been reading around but i cant seem to find a good answer to it so hopefully you can be my knight in shining armor.

When you’re on a mass gaining cycle should your calorie surplus be different from if you’re trying to gain off cycle? When i gain i usually eat a surplus of calories that puts me on a weight gain of about 1 pound per week. The steroids makes it possible for the body to utilize the food you put in to it at a very improved rate, so does this mean i should eat the same surplus and will just gain a ton more or should the surplus be increased? I know this is very individual and that it comes down to assessing your progress during the cycle, however during my cycle i found it hard to gauge my gains, if i was putting on too much fat, because of the bloat so i felt a bit lost.

During my cycle i used the approach of “the body can utilize much more calories” so i went for a bigger surplus than i normally would i put on more fat than i had hoped for.

I’ll start off my next cycle at a lower surplus and make gradual increases to keep the fatgain at bay, but any general thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time![/quote]

Hi,

Great post. I’m glad I was able to help!

If you could post a current picture I will be able to be more specific then I can see how much water/fat you have gained (if any)

Week 1 - 20mg
Week 2 - 30mg
Week 3 - 40mg
Week 4-6 - 50mg

Everything else looks on point

  1. I like to keep the HCG in post cycle until 1 week before I drop the nolva. So the last week of the pct will be nolvadex only.

  2. Nolvadex helps me with bloat even more than adex. If 20 doesn’t cut it you can always increase it to 30 or 40

  3. I would probably stick with a lower calorie surplus as it will help you achieve leaner gains. You can try a carb cycling approach and eat a bit higher surplus in your heavy training days and a bit less on your light/off training days.

[quote]Porrata wrote:
Hey Shadow I haven’t been on here in awhile, but I had asked you if you were going to ever take any online clients. I’m sad to see you’re not able to, but glad to see you’re still on here answering so many questions.
A little background on me and what I’m looking to do. I haven’t used anything in 10 years. I believe it was 200mg of EQ a week, 250mg of Sust a week and 40mg of d-bol EOD. I could be off on some it’s been a long time. this time around I was probably going to go on 500mg of test-e and one other compound for 12 weeks. I’ll take Hcg and Alpha Male throughout and post cycle as well. I’m looking to add some quality dense muscle. My last cycle 10 years ago I gained a ton of weight on very low dosages, yes I had some big time water bloat too. I would like to avoid that this time around. Anyway, I attached a pic and was hoping my bodyfat was low enough to start this, also if you have any other recommendations. Thanks again man I appreciate what you’re doing on here. [/quote]

Looking great! And I’m always happy to hear that people appreciate what I’m doing here.

You’re at a perfect body fat level to start a cycle.

I would suggest something like this:
Test-E @ 500mg/week (12 weeks)
Mast-E or Tren-E 400mg/week (12 weeks)

  • tren will give you a lot better results in terms of muscle gains and strength but it’s also more aggressive in terms of side effects. Masteron is great to be lean and hard but not as effective in terms of gains.
    If you want to throw an oral in you can add winstrol @ 50mg/day for the first 6 weeks.
    10-20mg nolva everyday
    250iu HCG 2x/week

*none of these drugs should make you gain any significant amount of water and should keep your gains lean and clean. Keep your diet on point and you should be fine.

From this starting point you should expect very good gains from this cycle. Keep up the good work.

[quote]chobbs wrote:
Hey shadow thanks for your time. My rat is currently taking 625 test e and 300 deca while blasting and cruising. As long as he controls his estrogen should his prolactin levels/libido be alright? Also what are your helpful hints on back acne, thank you. [/quote]

When using deca or tren I always suggest having caber on hand. Controlling estrogen helps but it’s not always a fail proof plan. It’s possible you may need to use both at some point.

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]chobbs wrote:
Hey shadow thanks for your time. My rat is currently taking 625 test e and 300 deca while blasting and cruising. As long as he controls his estrogen should his prolactin levels/libido be alright? Also what are your helpful hints on back acne, thank you. [/quote]

When using deca or tren I always suggest having caber on hand. Controlling estrogen helps but it’s not always a fail proof plan. It’s possible you may need to use both at some point.[/quote]

Thank you. I have prami but will get caber.