[quote]magick wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Go get some of that Obamacare then. [/quote]
You need a job to get Obamacare.[/quote]
Huh?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]magick wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Go get some of that Obamacare then. [/quote]
You need a job to get Obamacare.[/quote]
Huh?[/quote]
Let it go man, just walk away
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I thought the entire point of me losing freedom was to fund the policies of those that couldn’t themselves?[/quote]
To be more accurate, you need to provide some proof of income within the last … 6? (I forget) months or something. Which I couldn’t do at the time.
At least, that was the case with me.
If you like being of service there is plenty of room in the community development field. You can volunteer overseas - or locally - and work out what you’re best at. There are various organisations from delivering meals to the elderly to teaching English, helping build communities in the Third World, Habitat for Humanity, dealing with saving animals and the like.
An Australian guy, for example, set up a Skateboard school in Afghanistan. Lots of girls graduated!
Just be aware that some NGOs (non-government organisations)are corrupt to the bone, being Marxist-based organisations who support terrorists under cover of “doing good” or who keep all the money on perks and Jeeps for the staff and very little goes to the cause. Bono had one of those, and the UN is full of these.
Having said that, if you feel you have something to learn or to teach you can probably find something part-time while you work and then maybe take a few months or a year volunteering. If you learn enough, you might want to set up your own group to fundraise for something.
Check out some crowdfunding sites and see what they’re doing in the community sections. Don’t forget if you set up a business too, one day you can donate as much as you want to your cause, whether it’s literacy, tech skills or teaching idiots social skills. 
As for your “laziness” that might be lethargy from eating grains and dairy. If you stop those, you’ll probably feel livelier! 
Good luck.
[quote]TDub301 wrote:
<It sounds like you’re having difficulty making the decision and may be focusing too much on all the cons of every route you could take.>
One way to help with this is give yourself a time limit and an exit strategy.
If you hate your choice three months or 6 months in, determine to leave by then and start something else.
Whatever you do, always keep a bit of money in the bank for emergencies.
[quote]KD0 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]KD0 wrote:
Awesome reply man. I can definitely relate to the “punching below my weight” statement. I feel very unfulfilled and disappointed in my life when there are so many opportunities. It’s just so easy to get comfortable though.
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Go
To
A
Doctor!
Even a mild antidepressant for a short period of time might be enough to clear the fog of depression long enough to get into a routine.
And if you are, stop fucking smoking dope and drinking. [/quote]
I feel like I should…only obstacle is I have no health insurance.
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Then get off ALL grains, soy and sugar, and probably dairy.
You don’t need health insurance for that, and you’ll be surprised how it improves your mood and health. I mentioned this before, but if you want details check out wheatbellyblog.com by cardiologist Dr William Davis, who has been helping people get better and fitter just by getting them off “foods” that are not really foods.
Now there’s a man who serves people!
[quote]'nuffsaid wrote:
[quote]KD0 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]KD0 wrote:
Awesome reply man. I can definitely relate to the “punching below my weight” statement. I feel very unfulfilled and disappointed in my life when there are so many opportunities. It’s just so easy to get comfortable though.
[/quote]
Go
To
A
Doctor!
Even a mild antidepressant for a short period of time might be enough to clear the fog of depression long enough to get into a routine.
And if you are, stop fucking smoking dope and drinking. [/quote]
I feel like I should…only obstacle is I have no health insurance.
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Then get off ALL grains, soy and sugar, and probably dairy.
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If dude is depressed, things like brushing his teeth on a daily (let alone more than once a day) basis are difficult for him. I don’t think that this kind of diet change is even remotely possible first step, or realistically going to solve his problems in the slightest.
Simple baby steps like “lock down your daily hygiene for a month” are a much better place to start.
Wake up
piss
brush teeth
eat and/or coffee
shit
shave
shower
go about day
at night:
shower
floss
brush teeth
sleep
This series of articles has really helped me. Make sure to read his old stuff (prior to 2008ish), as his new stuff goes into new-age crap. The article I am providing you pertains to acquiring clarity in goals, thus making them easier to execute.
stevepavlina.com/articles/power-of-clarity.htm
Weight loss:
What motivated me was trying to get a sexy girlfriend. Basically, I calculated my calories I needed to eat per day and stuck to it. There was a lot of trial and error but I did lose weight…Then I took some medication (now known to cause significant and health-threatening levels of weight gain, but not disclosed to me at the time) and gained a fuck ton back…and now I am slowly losing it again.
Laziness:
Stop being lazy. Only losers are lazy. You are one if you don’t do anything, even if you are depressed. Also, the real fact of life is that nobody cares about your problems - most people wont waste their time with their “busy” schedules to help you, so you might as well be depressed but get something done at least.
School:
Believe it or not, leaving school might not have been a bad idea. There are plenty of fools who get a college education not knowing what they want to do, only to realize they hate their job/studies and end up going back to school to get retrained to get another job so they can be in more debt so they can do what they love so they can make money to get out of debt.
If I were you, I would do something crazy, like join the Peace Corps.
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Laziness:
Stop being lazy. Only losers are lazy. You are one if you don’t do anything, even if you are depressed. Also, the real fact of life is that nobody cares about your problems - most people wont waste their time with their “busy” schedules to help you, so you might as well be depressed but get something done at least.
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I have two responses to this paragraph:
- If dude isn’t depressed, I agree.
- If dude is depressed, this is shit advice, and you shouldn’t be talking to depressed people.
I know this is hard to imagine, but if you have zero experience with depression, people need to understand that simple, easy, normal shit that you do on the daily without thought, takes effort to achieve when depressed. Not sure if you read my tooth brushing post but it’s true. Literally, working up the effort to brush your teeth is hard. When someone is at that point, telling them “don’t be lazy” is seriously the worst, and makes the likelihood of them brushing less.
If he can’t see a competent doctor, small baby steps in formulating a positive routine are the best case IMO. And step one is getting your daily hygiene on point. Once that is done, then it is on to other things. Like cleaning your living space every day. No dishes in the sink, less clutter.
[quote]KD0 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]KD0 wrote:
Be sure your ass raping won’t go to waste I guess. Not a fan of our health care situation right now. I hate it. I also wonder how much it would cost to just pay out of pocket though.
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All joking around aside. I can’t recommend you see a competent doctor. There is zero shame in it, and the fact you see there is a problem means you’re not in too deep. Just get the little bit of help you need and things will be a lot easier to deal with. Trust me. [/quote]
I think I still do have a hint of depression that is like a cloud hanging over me, I’m very indecisive and can’t make decisions, also very unmotivated even though I know I need to change. It fucking sucks. Like I wake up and want to do something different and then I just don’t do it… I can’t really explain it.
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I missed this post from before… Sorry about that.
Anyway, yeah, you’re fighting an uphill battle, and unfortunately losing. And don’t get it twisted, it is a battle, and you will be fighting it, maybe for life. I know that sounds all bad and awful, but it doesn’t have to be.
I wish PM’s worked, lol.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Laziness:
Stop being lazy. Only losers are lazy. You are one if you don’t do anything, even if you are depressed. Also, the real fact of life is that nobody cares about your problems - most people wont waste their time with their “busy” schedules to help you, so you might as well be depressed but get something done at least.
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I have two responses to this paragraph:
- If dude isn’t depressed, I agree.
- If dude is depressed, this is shit advice, and you shouldn’t be talking to depressed people.
I know this is hard to imagine, but if you have zero experience with depression, people need to understand that simple, easy, normal shit that you do on the daily without thought, takes effort to achieve when depressed. Not sure if you read my tooth brushing post but it’s true. Literally, working up the effort to brush your teeth is hard. When someone is at that point, telling them “don’t be lazy” is seriously the worst, and makes the likelihood of them brushing less.
If he can’t see a competent doctor, small baby steps in formulating a positive routine are the best case IMO. And step one is getting your daily hygiene on point. Once that is done, then it is on to other things. Like cleaning your living space every day. No dishes in the sink, less clutter. [/quote]
I am actually a very depressed person. At one point in time I tried taking meds. It is all bullshit advice. The best thing to do is ignore the feelings of depression and get things done anyway. In many cases depression is a positive feed-back loop. I feel depressed so I will stay inside, I am inside and I am depressed that I am lonely, I am lonely I want to be alone and cry, I am crying I don’t want to go outside like this, etc etc. Despite what people will tell you…get your ass off the couch and do something. I cant tell you how many times I have felt better simply by ignoring my feelings and forcing myself to do something fun. And honestly, nobody cares how hard it is
Life can be overwhelming some point but the good news is that all the issues that you listed (diet/food choices/career) are 100% under your control. Set some goals for yourself (short term, medium and long) and start making small decisions that will get you closer. Sometimes it takes a few false starts before you find yourself on the right path. The point though is that you need to pick a direction and start heading in it.
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
I cant tell you how many times I have felt better simply by ignoring my feelings and forcing myself to do something fun.[/quote]
I can’t tell you how many people CAN’T ignore their “feelings”.
You’re completely missing the point, holy shit. Like you couldn’t be trolling and miss it this much.
No, no one cares, and it doesn’t fucking matter. Because honest truth is every single person on Earth could care and it wouldn’t make a single lick of a difference. Hence depression…
Jesus.
Yes, some people can “man up” through depression, and make their way through every day as if it isn’t a struggle just to find the motivation to do simple and basic tasks. But that takes, at the very least, intermittent moments of clarity you are falsely assuming exist for everyone without professional help.
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Laziness:
Stop being lazy. Only losers are lazy. You are one if you don’t do anything, even if you are depressed. Also, the real fact of life is that nobody cares about your problems - most people wont waste their time with their “busy” schedules to help you, so you might as well be depressed but get something done at least.
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I have two responses to this paragraph:
- If dude isn’t depressed, I agree.
- If dude is depressed, this is shit advice, and you shouldn’t be talking to depressed people.
I know this is hard to imagine, but if you have zero experience with depression, people need to understand that simple, easy, normal shit that you do on the daily without thought, takes effort to achieve when depressed. Not sure if you read my tooth brushing post but it’s true. Literally, working up the effort to brush your teeth is hard. When someone is at that point, telling them “don’t be lazy” is seriously the worst, and makes the likelihood of them brushing less.
If he can’t see a competent doctor, small baby steps in formulating a positive routine are the best case IMO. And step one is getting your daily hygiene on point. Once that is done, then it is on to other things. Like cleaning your living space every day. No dishes in the sink, less clutter. [/quote]
I am actually a very depressed person. At one point in time I tried taking meds. It is all bullshit advice. The best thing to do is ignore the feelings of depression and get things done anyway. In many cases depression is a positive feed-back loop. I feel depressed so I will stay inside, I am inside and I am depressed that I am lonely, I am lonely I want to be alone and cry, I am crying I don’t want to go outside like this, etc etc. Despite what people will tell you…get your ass off the couch and do something. I cant tell you how many times I have felt better simply by ignoring my feelings and forcing myself to do something fun. And honestly, nobody cares how hard it is[/quote]
Your experience is completely different from that of my aunt who has battled clinical depression her entire life. Medication HAS helped her as has the advice of licensed clinicians - she still suffers from it but has managed to start and raise a family - all with the help of people who cares how hard it is. Please just stop, you really don’t seem like you know what you’re talking about.
I don’t care what I seem like I know and don’t know. I know what works and I am here to prove it. What did people do 100 years ago before medication, therapy, doctors and a theory of psychology? We rely too much on medication and notions that are false, namely that people care, because most don’t and being depressed isn’t an excuse to let your life go to shit and not take action. Yes, some people need to be institutionalize and some people cannot function without medication. They are a minority but that is not what you will hear from most people. Take, for example, the diagnosis of bipolar disorder. In the 1970’s and prior it was a very rare disease, today as much as 5% of the population can be diagnosed with bipolar I or II. What changed? The diagnostic criteria, insurance companies pushing medications (sick people is a very profitable business), and a cultural shift away from accountability.
My point is:
- If you are out of shape, lazy, and lonely you should be a little depressed. Those aren’t things to be happy about.
- Regardless of how you feel, you have to take responsibility for yourself. This means moving forward despite how you feel.
- No matter how much your parents or whoever cares about you, at the end of the day no amount of caring will make you go to the gym or think seriously about your career. That motivation has to come from within you.
- Medication should be a last resort, not a first resort. Remember my first point? I feel people have lost touch with the fact that it is normal to be depressed and thus rely too heavy on medications. You can do the research for yourself on this topic - it is interesting.
- To point 4, medication wont change your situation, only how you feel about it. Is it necessarily a good thing to feel happy when you are out of shape? Is it good to feel happy when you aren’t sure about the direction of your career? Maybe feeling happy will motivate you temporarily, but what will you do when you get off the medication? Will you need to take this the rest of your life? Can you live with the side effects? These are important questions to think about before you consult your doctor.
If only there was a profession of people who were trained and educated on how to help people with depression and actually cared.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
If only there was a profession of people who were trained and educated on how to help people with depression and actually cared.
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Yeah, they are called prostitutes.
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
If only there was a profession of people who were trained and educated on how to help people with depression and actually cared.
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Yeah, they are called prostitutes. [/quote]
That is not a profession, that is a calling.
Oh, so I could have just willed myself out of depression.
I would NEVER wish true depression on anyone, but if Aero51 ever learns the difference between depression and being “down”, I’d love for him to come back and post here.
[quote]doogie wrote:
Oh, so I could have just willed myself out of depression.
I would NEVER wish true depression on anyone, but if Aero51 ever learns the difference between depression and being “down”, I’d love for him to come back and post here.[/quote]
Trying to convince this kid he’s mistaken or wrong is like pissing in the wind