Secondary Hypogonadism

I’ve been taking 100mg of T twice a week for several years.

What should I expect if I start taking arimidex or novadex (sp)

There’s plenty of information around on both so the first thing I would do is read up. Search here and at Mesomorphosis for lots of articles and postings.

The first thing you need to do is have a complete blood workup. Without some numbers to start with, you’re just flying blind. The numbers aren’t the be all and end all of everything but they give you some idea of where you’re at so you can better map a course of where you want to go.

Are you having any problems with aromatization? Taking the Arimidex will help if you are. Are you having estrogen related issues or symptoms? Nolvadex binds to estrogen receptors and so it works in a completely different way than Arimidex.

Tell us more about what’s going on and we can maybe tell you more about what to expect.

[quote]speedswing wrote:
I’ve been taking 100mg of T twice a week for several years.

What should I expect if I start taking arimidex or novadex (sp)

[/quote]
R you on HCG? Also do you mean what should happen if you stop TRT and begin a SERM, or do you mean you will simply add a SERM to your TRT?

I’ve been taking T for 20 years.

I’m not and can’t stop taking it. I quit for 1 month 2 years ago and my T dropped to 137

I’ve always been slightly chubby. Even when I lost weight while training I still had a soft look.

I did 365x 2 tonight on 3 board press.

I’ve never taking arimidex or something similiar.

My doctor who has allowed me to self inject 200mg’s a week does not see the benefit of arimidex.

I don’t have bitch tits.

My E is not way high but it is elevated. I believe the 30-40 range.

What will I see in terms of body composition changes.

[quote]speedswing wrote:
I’ve been taking T for 20 years.

I’m not and can’t stop taking it. I quit for 1 month 2 years ago and my T dropped to 137

I’ve always been slightly chubby. Even when I lost weight while training I still had a soft look.

I did 365x 2 tonight on 3 board press.

I’ve never taking arimidex or something similiar.

My doctor who has allowed me to self inject 200mg’s a week does not see the benefit of arimidex.

I don’t have bitch tits.

My E is not way high but it is elevated. I believe the 30-40 range.

What will I see in terms of body composition changes.[/quote]

Do you have lab work? Any E2 numbers?

I would strongly expect that your E2 numbers are too high. Expected results would be some gut centered fat patterns and difficulty losing fat. Libido can then be poor, some ED and stamina issues can follow. Your E2 levels do not need to be above normal range limits to cause problems like that. And the E2 levels can create prostate problems. The E2 levels can also create brain fog, energy and mood problems for many who are on TRT.

My E2 was 37 and gave me all kinds of trouble. 1mg/wk of anastrozole reduced E2=22 and great improvements all around.

You need to get arimidex/anastrozole. You can get it yourself. PM for source. You may need to make a weight and %BF increase to the 1mg/wk starting dose, then you can adjust based on lab work.

You might find that you feel that the anastrozole is the best thing that you have done in 20 years. I think that you would feel better and loose fat. High T levels are not enough. E needs to be in balance too. If you do the anastrozole, you will probably think that your doctor is an idiot after a few weeks.

When E2 is lowered, the cells will change and the properties of tissues will change. That also happens in the brain. Thought patterns change and habits of thought can easily change too. While things are in a state of flux, some positive attitude can help create beneficial habits of thought.

[quote]I’ve always been slightly chubby. Even when I lost weight while training I still had a soft look.
What will I see in terms of body composition changes.[/quote]

In addition to what KSman said, I’d like to address this particular area.

E levels do have an effect on fat deposition patterns, no question. But that doesn’t say anything about diet. You won’t be making fat in the first place if your nutrition is correct. Taking anastrozole won’t change the fact that your diet has to be 100% dialed in.

“Soft” is a very subjective term. A much better gauge of where you’re at is bodyfat percentage. Bodybuilders in contest shape are below 5% bodyfat which is an incredibly hard thing to do and probably not healthy for any extended period of time. It takes me an extraordinary amount of effort to stay in the 10% range.

I eat six times a day. I weigh everything I eat and count every calorie. One freakin banana can make a difference in whether I lose fat or gain fat. Getting your hormones dialed in won’t change the fact that you also need to have your diet dialed in. If you want total results, you need to have the total game.

I’m on 200mg a week of T

If I inject 100mg on mon and 100mg on Thur when should I take my .5mg of arimidex

[quote]speedswing wrote:
I’m on 200mg a week of T

If I inject 100mg on mon and 100mg on Thur when should I take my .5mg of arimidex[/quote]

Your arimidex can be taken when you do your injections and will be simpler as part of that routine. Take with or without food.

Just because you don’t have gyno, doesn’t mean you’re not compromising your prostate, or need to do something about Estrogen. After I started on HRT, my Estrogen levels started to climb and I became proactive about it, because my GP wouldn’t. ( my endo is in Italy) I double check all my blood work myself.
KNB

I’m taking 1 mg of Arimidex a day with 400 mg of test per week. Is this effective in gaining mass without the bloating?..and how long can one take Arimidex for and is more Arimidex better or just a waste?
signed
trying to gain size and loose fat.

More is probably not better. A study done on older men where anastrozole was used as a way to increase testosterone showed that men taking 2mg per week had the same reduction in E2 levels as men taking 1mg a day. This agrees with other studies which suggest that there is a limit to how low anastrozole can take E2, which makes sense when you consider that not all E2 is produced through aromatization. There is a limit to how much aromatase your body can pump out a day and I suspect that 1mg a day of anastrozole is sufficient to handle anyone’s aromatase production.

As for your question of is it enough to combat bloating, why ask us? You say you’re taking the test and the anastrozole so why not look in the mirror? Are you bloated? This question makes no sense to me, sorry.

There’s a very good article on “gaining size as losing fat” posted today called:

How to Design a Damn Good Program, Part 1

Trying to get bigger and smaller at the same time doesn’t make much sense.

[quote]ppaura wrote:
I’m taking 1 mg of Arimidex a day with 400 mg of test per week. Is this effective in gaining mass without the bloating?..and how long can one take Arimidex for and is more Arimidex better or just a waste?
signed
trying to gain size and loose fat.[/quote]

Many on higher amounts of gear do fine with less adex than that. 1mg/day is probably more than needed and wa$teful too.

My E levels went from 105 to 44 using a-dex. 1mg day 1, 1mg day 3, and .25mg EOD until day 14. I had my b/w done on day 15. The research I did shows a-dex has a 1/2 life of three days so after 14 days the blood levels are supposed to settle in. This blood work was done using 200mg/week of T-cyp for HRT, and previous a-dex protocol. I am currently on 1.5mg/week a-dex and will post b/w when done next time.

cheers