[quote]btm62 wrote:
I mentioned it once. You argue like a woman. [/quote]
What’s that supposed to mean? And how does gender affect the way people argue?
[quote]lixy wrote:
btm62 wrote:
I mentioned it once. You argue like a woman.
What’s that supposed to mean? And how does gender affect the way people argue?
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Lixy did you pull his hair?
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
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Judging from this scree, I would say the rape victim is poorly represented here.
Can someone explain to me what actually happened from this rant? I am genuinely interested. [/quote]
Basically she was charged with aiding in the robbery. Now, if she was wrongly charged, or if the others got off easier because they’re informants is another matter. I see nothing that impies she was charged because of her sex, for having sex, or because she was outright raped. If anything it’s a fit for a thread discussing controversial use and reliance on informants.
I’ll read up more on later about this case. It is odd though that the author starts off implying that the defendant is the victim of sexual oppresion. Yet, turns around and relies on a gender neutral argument concerning use and reliance on informants.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Basically she was charged with aiding in the robbery. Now, if she was wrongly charged, or if the others got off easier because they’re informants is another matter. I see nothing that impies she was charged because of her sex, for having sex, or because she was outright raped. If anything it’s a fit for a thread discussing controversial use and reliance on informants.
I’ll read up more on later about this case. It is odd though that the author starts off implying that the defendant is the victim of sexual oppresion. Yet, turns around and relies on a gender neutral argument concerning use and reliance on informants.[/quote]
“Sephora Davis�?? rapist was an agent of the state �?? a police informant who, along with his police officer sponsor, falsely implicated her in his own crime �?? an armed robbery he and two accomplices committed shortly after the rape. By that time Sephora had been drugged and was passed out in the car. That has also never been disputed and is also a matter of public record.”
From there, this is how it works in New York. The police informant gets backed up by the police, naturally. Then the District Attorney backs up the police. Then the court backs up the District Attorney. Then the appellate courts back up the lower court. Yes, this is how political power works."
Women have always been a scapegoat for the sin of men. This is all the more outrageous because a State sponsored informant is treated like a hero for turning evidence in a crime he committed after falsely accusing his victim.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Iran is a patriarchal society alright. Allow me to add that it’s nowhere near the abject treatment women recieve in Saudi Arabia.
So what if they recieve worse treatment in SA? The treatment is an atrocity in any country.
Exactly his point.
Why the rabble rousing against Iran and not Saudi Arabia? Why aren’t we more morally pissed, as a nation, at the Saudis?
You and Lixy have quite a down on the Saudis. Would you advocate that we bomb/take over there? Remember how the British eliminated wife-burning in India? We could do like that in Saudi Arabia. Western societies always have to civilise the barbarians.
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Actually if we’re gonna invade for moral reasons, Saudi Arabia would be the place to go. Plenty of oil to satisfy you, HH, and many, MANY more terrorists and terrorist money than any other Middle Eastern nation.
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
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Judging from this scree, I would say the rape victim is poorly represented here.
Can someone explain to me what actually happened from this rant? I am genuinely interested. [/quote]
I think she was involved in an armed robbery and pled guilty. The author/her lawyer will try any tactic to keep her out of jail.
lewrockwell has proven itself to be a trash website publishing crap like that.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Basically she was charged with aiding in the robbery. Now, if she was wrongly charged, or if the others got off easier because they’re informants is another matter. I see nothing that impies she was charged because of her sex, for having sex, or because she was outright raped. If anything it’s a fit for a thread discussing controversial use and reliance on informants.
I’ll read up more on later about this case. It is odd though that the author starts off implying that the defendant is the victim of sexual oppresion. Yet, turns around and relies on a gender neutral argument concerning use and reliance on informants.
“Sephora Davis�?? rapist was an agent of the state �?? a police informant who, along with his police officer sponsor, falsely implicated her in his own crime �?? an armed robbery he and two accomplices committed shortly after the rape. By that time Sephora had been drugged and was passed out in the car. That has also never been disputed and is also a matter of public record.”
From there, this is how it works in New York. The police informant gets backed up by the police, naturally. Then the District Attorney backs up the police. Then the court backs up the District Attorney. Then the appellate courts back up the lower court. Yes, this is how political power works."
Women have always been a scapegoat for the sin of men. This is all the more outrageous because a State sponsored informant is treated like a hero for turning evidence in a crime he committed after falsely accusing his victim.[/quote]
I’m not following you. How does relying far too heavily on an informant’s testimony (if that’s the case) equate to some kind of gender discrimination? That’s a gender neutral complaint. I’m not saying she lied, as I’ve not read enough to form an opinion. I’m questioning why this is being framed as anti-woman. There’s a ton of debate over the use and misuse of informants, and this seems to fit more along those lines. Not to mention the kind of plea she made is a source of debate.
More news about the OP’s story.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Iran is a patriarchal society alright. Allow me to add that it’s nowhere near the abject treatment women recieve in Saudi Arabia.
So what if they recieve worse treatment in SA? The treatment is an atrocity in any country.
Exactly his point.
Why the rabble rousing against Iran and not Saudi Arabia? Why aren’t we more morally pissed, as a nation, at the Saudis?
You and Lixy have quite a down on the Saudis. Would you advocate that we bomb/take over there? Remember how the British eliminated wife-burning in India? We could do like that in Saudi Arabia. Western societies always have to civilise the barbarians.
Actually if we’re gonna invade for moral reasons, Saudi Arabia would be the place to go. Plenty of oil to satisfy you, HH, and many, MANY more terrorists and terrorist money than any other Middle Eastern nation.
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Glad to see you FINALLY getting on board. This is a fight for our very survival.
You know, we wouldn’t need that oil if the environmentalists wouldn’t file lawsuit after lawsuit preventing us from opening up our continental shelf for oil exploration (85% is closed off). When guys come home in draped caskets, thank the nearest Al-Gore-loving tree-hugging environmentalist whack jobs.
I think I’ll keep thanking the jackass who sent them over in the first place and the pussies in congress who won’t cut funding.
But yes, we need to open the shelf up more to drilling. Not completely, but more.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
I think I’ll keep thanking the jackass who sent them over in the first place and the pussies in congress who won’t cut funding.
But yes, we need to open the shelf up more to drilling. Not completely, but more.[/quote]
Unfortunatly, I think not cutting funding is the only thing the pussies have done right. I hate it that we are there, but if we leave now with out having some semblance of order the blood bath that would occur would be epic. They are killing each other now, could you imagine if they could do it unabated? Everyone that supported the U.S. would be slaughtered. The Sunnis, sheits, and kurds would go after each other, etc. That’s the problem, we can’t just say “Ooops! we fucked up, sorry we’ll be leaving now.” We have to clean up our own mess and maybe, just maybe have something good come out of it.