Am two weeks in to my first SARM’s cycle, using RAD-140. 50 years old. 6’1", 165, 15.5%bf(Dexa). 2300cals/day. 180-200g protein/day. 80-100g fats, rest carbs. First week, 5mg/day. No side effects felt. Second week, 10mg/day. Slight headache/euphoria/nausea first 3 days, now just a little euphoria once in a while, and some nausea, but only at the gym after heavy sets(I used to get nausea during this time anyway). I’ve been taking Androgel 1% for 3 years prescribed by my doctor. I plan to keep the RAD-140 at 10mg/day for rest of cycle(another 6 weeks).
I’ve not noticed anything yet from my cycle as far as strength or size, and weight hasn’t changed. In my research I’ve read that you can do SARM’s while on TRT, but that a PCT is not necessary when the SARM cycle ends. My doctor has already told me that he won’t keep me on TRT past 5 years total, and that a PCT will be required at that time.
I’d like people’s opinions on this as no matter how much research you do, there is never a straight answer. Regarding my test numbers, before the Androgel, 330ng/dl. Now, testing ever 6 months, usually between 660-800. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
What are you using the SARMs for? Just my opinion is that if you are using them to gain size, that you may not need it with your stats.
If I was going to use PEDs (more than TRT) I would just use AAS not sarms. More Test, perhaps a mild oral are good routes to go compared to a SARM. But, I think you need resistance training, and a calorie surplus more than an addition of a PED.
I would try to educate your Dr., or find a new one. If what you say is true, he lacks basic understanding of the treatment he is prescribing.
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Thank you for your response. I have been resistance training for 3 years, with 6 months of that spent with a personal trainer(power lifter). He taught me how to lift properly. My training isn’t a problem. My diet is what needed catching up. I’ve fixed it the last year. I didn’t mention that I also intermittent fast. I was able to shed an additional 26lbs of fat and add 7 lbs of muscle the last 6 months on IF. Regarding your question, it’s simply about trying to add lean muscle to my lanky frame, and doing it without injections. As I get older, and with a history of injuries(multiple ruptured discs), I find that I essentially need a leg up, or cheat if you like. I had a friend ordering some SARM’s and after a little research, decided to let him grab me RAD-140.
If this is true, I am having trouble with this:
I would be happy with those results after a whole year of training, while on cruise (TRT dosage roughly), and a blast of high Test for maybe 4 months.
I think perhaps you may have a skewed perception of how long achieving a muscular and lean physique takes.
Perhaps what you want is more of a faster time to your goal, than actually needing a leg up?
That is acceptable in my mind for someone who is on TRT. I don’t think it is worth risk in a natural healthy younger male.
I get this, but they really aren’t bad. I use slin pins that are 27 gauge and 1/2" long. I do these in the lats.
Injectable Testosterone is a pretty good way to go for a TRT guy. Well studied, and known effects.
Keep a log on your experience with Rad though if you continue with it. I am interested in seeing your gains, sides, etc…
I don’t see the point in you taking SARMs given your current stats, but research shows that RAD140 can be dosed up to 30mg/day. This is what i did when i was being a dummy and it worked well for me
Your stats are horrible. Going by the height and weight ratio its similar to untrained girl.
Sarms are not doing much because you are not doing much. Steroids and sarms amplify what we do. If the best you can is weigh 165 then using sarms is like multiplying a zero. No matter what you multiply it with the outcome is zero. You need to have some postive result for it to be amplified when taking something. Idk if its your training or you just are not willing to do the work in kitchen but nothing will yield any results before you manage to be above the zero. Keep in mind that the closer to zero you are the less effect everything you take can make because multiplying 1 with 3 is much less than multiplying a 3 or 4 with the same number.
Regarding body weight, I was 185-190 for years, including most of my resistance training. When I was an endurance athlete(triathlon, marathon) 10 years ago, I was around 172-175. I will certainly post again during the end of my 8 week cycle of the RAD-140, and document any changes, if any. Thanks again.
its better but still low… i was 200lbs natural at same height as you, when i was 17, before i touched a steroid(i started at 147lbs)…
and why didnt u at least get back to your 190lbs before touching drugs? what did you expect? to be 220lbs lean after 3 weeks? that wouldnt happen in 3 years even if you were blasting grams of test, tren and GH 
you are not doing the work, so SARMs are multiplying what you do… it multiplies the zero and the outcome is - zero.
Lol, why?
As to your SARM cycle, I saw limited benefits adding them into my TRT. for the price I paid I would have rather had Var.
Depends on the sarm. Im not an expert but as far as i know some are more powerful than some steroids. Like some would compare to deca or dianabol. Sarms are also usually combined. Sarms are exactly the same as steroids - each have their benefits and they create good combos with others. There are sarms that are much more harsh than many steroids so whenever i see “sarms” i just think “steroids with weird names” because they are the same thing and should be treated like that.
I agree.
If the potential sides are comparable to AAS, I don’t understand why other than ease of access, and legality one would use a SARM over an AAS that fits their needs. I’d pick the thing that has decades of people using it (and in some cases clinical trials), and has a good understanding of what the drug does both good and bad, over a mystery drug (which we already know the bad sides are comparable to AAS).
In here sarms are in no way easier to access - you can only get them at the same dude who sells all the steroids, so whenever i would want some sarms, i just see them as different types of steroids. Havent done any serious ones tho because i am not a fan of taking stuff orally. Also all orals besides var for the looks and stanazolol for strenght has been a letdown.
I know you have heard me mention Tbol. Have you tried it? I like it way better than Var. We are not super responders to gear, but I noticed performance on Tbol. Not super strength for one rep, but noticeable that I could do an extra rep or two, and I was progressing week to week easier.
I also didn’t have any perceptible negatives with it, I guess maybe back pumps is a possibility, but I got those natty, and just on Test as well, but maybe they were worse on Tbol.
Haven’t tried it, no. But maybe i should. I just like var enough - it gives me THE LOOK at low dose. And good strenght with higher dose also. Maybe i respond to it good, idk. Does Tbol also come with a cosmetic benefit?
Hard to tell. I ran it with 875 mg/wk Test, so it is hard to tell if what I was seeing was Tbol or Test. Delts and traps were popping though, but that could be Test too.
I will say since I ran it at the beginning and end of the blast, that during the end run of it, gym performance went up (felt this way at the beginning, but I introduced two variables in the beginning, and for the end Tbol, was already running Test for 12 weeks). Kinda like when I was on it, I had those “good” gym days consistently.
IIRC, it is the only AAS developed specifically for human sports improvement. The Germans used it to cheat in the Olympics for almost all of the sports they were competing including weight lifting.
From the records of GDR doping it is also apparent that even “mild” side effects can affect the life of a young athlete. Hirsutism and so-called “steroid acne,” notably on the body trunk, can be serious problems, physically and psychologically, for young women, particularly because the effects may be irreversible ([63](javascript:;)). Take the case of a teenage world record holder who developed a minor gastrointestinal infection and was seen by the team physician, Höppner. When she undressed, he recognized the bizarre side effects of Oral-Turinabol. In his comprehensive Stasi report on the Games, he described his shock when he saw her (“Technik,” Vol. II, pp. 193–213):
The legs including the inner parts of the thighs are strongly hirsute and the pubic hair extends already to the navel. She is forced to shave. I then talked to her several times because according to the approved program she should have been given anabolics only since last year. It became clear, however, that she had been given these supporting means by her coach already since she was 15 years old. Initially this was explained to her as vitamin tablets. When she, however, noticed the changes in her body she recognized that it was anabolic steroids. … Because of the circumstances she had already decided to stop participating in high performance sports …
@lordgains maybe you have already read this (see last three posts). Good read!
The drug dosages of the DGV weightlifters were very high, sometimes exceeding, in the upper weight categories, 10 g per year. In 1979, for example, one GDR weightlifter took 11.550 g of Oral-Turinabol plus 13 injections of testosterone esters and hCG (for details see ref. ([28](javascript:;)), evaluated in refs. ([10](javascript:;))([12](javascript:;))).
Just an easy peasy cycle with today’s Youtube generation.