[quote]tom63 wrote:
[Is Julius_Caesar] insane? [/quote]
Yes. And just wait until he realizes that Byrds squat wasnt done drug-free. Julia seems to be waging a crusade there too.
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
tom63 wrote:
[Is Julius_Caesar] insane?
Yes. And just wait until he realizes that Byrds squat wasnt done drug-free. Julia seems to be waging a crusade there too.
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It wasn’t drug free? That’s absolutely shocking. And yes that is sarcasm…
Did I ever say that scientists would examine a fringe sport like powerlifting? No.
All that I said is that a scientific investigation of gear would be interesting.
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
tom63 wrote:
[Is Julius_Caesar] insane?
Yes. And just wait until he realizes that Byrds squat wasnt done drug-free. Julia seems to be waging a crusade there too.
It wasn’t drug free? That’s absolutely shocking. And yes that is sarcasm…
Did I ever say that scientists would examine a fringe sport like powerlifting? No.
All that I said is that a scientific investigation of gear would be interesting.
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Are we talking about a study with elite level athletes or weekend warriors?? Beginners or intermediates? If your suggested control group contains all levels of exerperience then I would say that it might be a futile study cos no meaningful answer could be derived from it.
[quote]dead_lifter5000 wrote:
One more thing- don’t tell me that the guys in the IPF and USAPL just wear their gear “just cause”. Anyone who puts this shit on puts it on to win. Everyone is jacking as much as the can, wrapping as long as they can, getting as tight as they can. Winning is winning and I don’t care if its 3 ply or 1 ply. You put the shit on to win.[/quote]
One of the better statements I have read regarding gear. Well put.
[quote]Hanley wrote:
Are we talking about a study with elite level athletes or weekend warriors?? Beginners or intermediates? If your suggested control group contains all levels of exerperience then I would say that it might be a futile study cos no meaningful answer could be derived from it.[/quote]
I disagree. For one, we would only be looking at percentages. If the elite powerlifters got more out of their gear percentage wise than lifters at other levels, you could easily repeat the experiment by giving the lifters coaching.
I happened to be at this meet with a friend of mine Brett Rapp. I loaded the plates on the bar for Sam when he was warming up and we all hung out before the meet started. Sam is no more than 5’7" tall and is pretty lean. He walked out several of his warmup squats one of them weighing 685. Sam was using an Inzer canvas suit that day, and I am not sure of the briefs. I know the knee wraps were Inzer. Yeah it would be cool if he could do it in a singlet walk it out and have his feet touching each other. Yeah he was about 20 lbs heavier than what he weighed in at 24 hours before the meet. Some of you gripe about drug testing…News Flash this just in, when it comes to drug tested sports there is the caught and the un-caught 90% of the time. Any number of things can be said, but bottom line is…Most likely you wish you could do that, and if you did or could. Well, you would do what it took to be there. Don’t subsitute for any of your ability by tearing down the accomplishments of other.
[quote]Stu Pidasso wrote:
Any number of things can be said, but bottom line is…Most likely you wish you could do that, and if you did or could. Well, you would do what it took to be there. Don’t subsitute for any of your ability by tearing down the accomplishments of other.
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Very well said Stu. I hope to some day be able to be even near a level that Sam is at and I know I’d do damned well anything to get there.
[quote]DPH wrote:
Julius_Caesar wrote:
How can you compare this to Dr. Squat’s raw 1000 with a walk out?
you can’t compare the lifts…
Hatfield in his prime was considerably stronger than Byrd is today…
however, Dr. Squats 1014 wasn’t raw, he wore a single ply squat suit of the time…
Hatfield also weighed almost fifty pounds more than Byrd too…
and, if I’m not mistaken, Hatfield had the squat support stands moved out of his way instead of walking the weight out for his 1014 lift (it was a big controversy at the time if my memory serves me correctly)…
Sorry, but I respect minimal gear lifts more. Anything more than a one ply is no good in my book. Now feel free to flame away…
what kind of single ply are you thinking of?
the single ply super-suits of today are about the equivalent of putting on about four old champion suits of yester-year…
for example, single ply RageX cannot be compared to a blast-shirt, shit, a single ply RageX is tougher than four or five old school blast shirts combined…two entirely different animals…[/quote]
What ass are you pulling those numbers from? I’ve personally used both a blast shirt and a RageX in the same workout. I personally do not fell much of a difference, other than the arm angle and the age of the equipment.
So by your calculations, the 30# I got out of my Blast should equate to #120 or #150 in my rage… well, I admit I am not the best bencher, far from, but I get #40 from my RageX. Thats only a #10 difference. Certainly not the 400-500%.
Careful with throwing around numbers, and respect Byrd. If it is so easy to squat a grand, or get 300# from his gear why do I not know your name?