Not sure how many here are aware of how strongly these curb your appetite. I started taking these first and foremost for my mild depression, but then found out about their appetite suppressing ability. Combined with coffee, I could get through a whole day of a considerable caloric deficit without wanting any snacks and the hunger actually was more bearable. Pretty amazing.
Have you considered just being hungry instead? Much cheaper.
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Saffron pills are 16ā¬ (17 bucks or smth) a month where I live. Twice as cheap as whey.
Hunger is even cheaper. And you learn a lot of lessons along the way.
Iām just mad about saffron.
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Iāve already dieted once without saffron or caffeine. Sucked. Lessons learned. Iāll rather make my life a bit easier now in the dieting aspect, thereās plenty of other challenges already.
I find frequent overcoming of challenges to be beneficial 
I do too, but not everything in life needs to be a challenge. If so, I could stop going to the supermarket for food and learn hunting and gathering. Saves money (in the long term), right? Iāll just buy a gun and tools for skinning, and iām ready to go. Or I could stop buying belts and challenge myself by pulling my pants up every five minutes.
If thereās an easy and cheap fix to make my life just a bit easier, I use it. The ~8 hours a day of practicing the piano, managing my family business and trying to make progress in the gym are big enough challenges already 
You and I are quite different that way
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