There are subtle changes that happens to a person’s jawline when juicy. It happens very quickly but it’s not easy to pick it. It’s the only 100% way to confirm and/or deny a person’s PED status.
I thought this was common knowledge?
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Interesting, I learnt something new then. Still, I have a very hard time believing he’s natty. What are these changes? Does the jawline become more pronounced? If it’s an aromatising wet compound like dbol wouldn’t the opposite occur?
Thought jaw line just something that’s factored in for natty or not discussions definitely not conclusive or particularly strong supporting evidence either way
@unreal24278, they’re messing with you about the jawline. (Although it is true that heavy use of certain PEDs will produce changes in bone structure, including the jaw.)
As for whether the kid is on PEDs, nothing about his physique is so crazy-advanced as to make me think it couldn’t be achieved by a highly (genetically) talented teen who has been committed to working out and eating right for the past 3 years or so.
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I don’t know how you think you can make this assertion without knowing their heights. Or do you? Regardless, the kid is not that big. The IFBB pro is a physique dude, not a bodybuilder. In contest shape, that kid may very well be 135. I think you don’t really understand how light folks end up on stage, particularly in physique.
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I know you guys are joking about the jawline thing, but it’s worth noting what Eyedentist said, that the face DOES change with PED use. Mine has, without a doubt, and I’ve used relatively ‘light’ drugs. No GH, insulin, etc. And it’s been over a relatively short period of time, just about 3 years I think.
Out of curiosity, do you think your face looks better or worse now as compared to before?
better, no question. hahaha.
I think it just looks more masculine. I know I’m much more attractive today than I was 5-10 years ago. My beard got WAY better after starting with steroids. I basically didn’t grow hair on my cheeks or sideburns at all 3-4 years ago. Now, as you guys have seen, the beard is crazy full.
Hair on the top of my head has gotten thinner, but I really don’t know if that’s more steroid induced or just what was going to happen, given how thin my dad’s hair got at an early age, and the fact that I am 34.
I know a WNBF pro who has a considerable following on social media. He posts daily pics that would make most people think he was enormous. I sat on a judging panel about a Year ago and I know for a fact he’s maybe 135 and 5’4. He’s got genetically full muscle bellies (especially his pecs) and always comes in excellent condition when he competes. To see people dropping his name and arguing that he’s not assisted is one of the funniest things I see on a fairly regular basis.
Just shows how very often the people making decisions about what other people do/have done are not very informed or experienced, and yet propagate some serious assertions at people they don’t even know.
(Mike o’Hearn is a different case altogether -lol)
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I think the only way we’ll know for sure is if someone can find a photo of him holding a shoe.
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Is it just me, or is O’Hearn’s face & skin in general starting to get a Madame Tussaud “sheen” LOL to it?
Hypothetically speaking, what type of (excessive) drug use leads to that? Or is it just simple plastic surgery of some sort?
Botox causes that.
Yeah, I guess botox is the obvious thing for the face.
But I remember O’Hearn had a video clip for Mark Bell’s 40th birthday, shirtless, and it looked like his frickin’ torso was molded from wax/clay; hard to describe, Madame Tussaud-like is my best analogy. Do people use botox for the body now too? Or maybe it’s synthol, done “well”?
Did you mean height or weight lol? Just go with whatever he says his stats are on insta I guess?
I think in his transformation pic after photo he said he was 160 but I guess that’s not contest shape.
his height I can’t find it anywhere but in pics you can see him standing next to Rich Piana and CT fletcher and relative to standard size plates and machines and other stuff in the gym.
That is just the look of fake tan and maybe some body oil.
he’s 5’8
Chemical peels in certain skin types can cause the shiny look. Over-exfoliated skin removes so much of the surface skin cells that it loses the layers of the skin that give it texture.
I think you’re right, this is the look I’m thinking I saw.
what the fuck is wrong with you? you’re making fun of a 14 year old’s voice?
go fuck yourself.
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Lol, there’s another thread where a different poster told a 17-year old, 90-pound girl with a double bodyweight squat and a triple bodyweight deadlift to “let us know when you’re interested in getting strong” so TN is really on a roll today.
(Edited to correct the quote)
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