Hi BSims,
I don’t know you, and sometimes words can seem antagonistic and I’m not trying to be that with you. Now that I’ve got that out of the way…
[Ken: I agree with you, I certainly don’t have anything against you by any means. we have different backgrounds and such and obviously different opinions and I certainly think we can keep this as respectful as possible.]
- As you probably know, there is much more to coaching sprinters than writing workouts.
[very true and if you’ve ever read any of Charlie’s texts you would see he talks in depth about this]
Also, Ben isn’t the brightest around. I’m sure that’s why he didn’t coach himself. I’m not going to get into timeline with you because I don’t like talking about Ben. I think he’s a punk too.
[i have no comment about whether Ben is bright or not cos i’ve never met him. as for you not providing a timeline i didn’t think you would. i think your claims of Ben not following Charlie’s workouts aren’t factual and unless you can actually provide a timeline following and backing up the your statement of “soon after an injury” we are at a stand still. If Ben was supposedly doing his own workouts and not Charlie’s and getting results then he is smart enough to go without. (sarcasm -->) i am sure Charlie conversing with the East Germans about their training methods in the late 70’s/early 80’s and learning how they trained at top speed year round had nothing to do with the way he trained his athletes]
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I’m not sure how you’ve determined that Ben is the most impressive sprinter to date. The guy never broke 10.10 without rocket fuel. Let’s take Donovan out of the picture (as I’m probably not objective). How about Obadele Thompson?
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In your next post, you made the comment “if” Donovan was clean. I think you’re doing a disservice to him by saying that. That’s another reason why I dislike Charlie so much. He has that attitude that "everyone is on drugs, so you need them to compete on a level playing field. That’s just a bitch trying to justify cheating. Let’s say that you’re correct in your view of Ben’s talents. It’s too bad that Charlie convinced him that he needed drugs to compete. Maybe without, he would have been just as impressive.
Like I said before, I KNOW that Donovan was clean. Charlie may have many great attributes, but the fact that he said what he said (in my opinion to make himself look important) makes him a bitch in my books.
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[i am referring to Ben in his prime, circa 86-88 pretty much untouchable. Didn’t win everything but was extremely dominant. if we look at the fastest 100 ever run, Seoul 88, he let up well before the line and came through with a 9.79 and not wind aided. the most impressive start to date, no one has replicated that at all. as for the rocket fuel you refer to…it is widely know that PED’s are widely used by olympic athletes. Hell, from what I know, Carl Lewis still claims he was natural and from what I know he had a positive test covered up as far back as 83. Re: Thompson. Impressive resume, my hats off to him, truly gifted! Re: Donovan…I say ‘if’ because i really don’t know and unless you followed him around all the time and can say you know everything about him inside and out then you don’t know cos people will hide things. I am not saying he did but i’m not saying he didn’t. If you say he didn’t then i have no reason to not believe you but then again there is no reason to think that Barry Bonds has used because he has never tested positive and he says he didn’t either and how about Ronnie Coleman, Mr. Olympia a police officer for how many years working side by side with other numerous officers of the LAW. He must be clean too.
On the topic of cheating: it is a semantic argument. It’s not a level playing field if 5 guys are using and 5 guys aren’t. But unless there is proof that those guys are cheating, concrete proof then there is only speculation and guess what…they aren’t cheating. Is it cheating if all 10 guys are using? according to the rules, yeah, but it is a level playing field. we could go round and round on this.
Do you KNOW that Charlie pushed him to use? You must know Ben as well as Donovan then to know information like that. Charlie does have many great attributes and as i’ve said before has always been a great individual to me. I understand if he said something to offend you then that is between you and him. I presume you are referring to him not repeating to Donovan what you said he said to you? You can call Charlie whatever adjective you like if it makes you feel better but could you please elaborate YOUR definition of “bitch” for me?
I am not out to change your opinion of Charlie by any means, that is your thing and yours alone and only you will change that or not. The topics you are not willing to talk about is what interests me…the claims about Ben doing his own workouts, etc.
Thanks for your time.]
