Rowing Machine Routine?

Some endurox is always good stuff for during a row. Maybe even Surge?

redbull doesn’t equal energy later in the piece it equals miserable CNS system and crappier technique. You get your energy from the high GI carbs. Don’t bother with solid food though during a marathon.

Also as far as splits go I really couldn’t tell ya. I mean even me out of shape and not rowing consistently could probably do 2:05 for a marathon but that’s because my body is trained for proper technique and rowing efficient. For you I’d shoot for 2:15-2:20 I suppose.

that sounds fast…

im not complaining but i think the rowing machine im on is well defferent to a concept 2.

when i used to do 5 mins of 30sec flat out and 30 secs off for rugby. i would get the split down to something like under 1.30min/500 and like 45spm, now when i pull like a mad man on the johnstone i cant get it below 1.45min/500 at 45spm.

what should i eat between pieces if we do decide to do in 2 hour stages?

dont know what endurox is and i cant afford Surge etc becasue im in britain.

the date of the row is going to be 2nd/3rd September. that gives me just under 2 weeks, im thinking of just rowing long pieces every other day (1.5-2) hours untill then and trying to get my technique down.
any other ideas?

Scott

1:30 is 1:30 or it should be no matter what erg you are using. It may be that the johnstone doesn’t use the metric system. Check that.

Just take whatever you would take as a post workout shake between the rows I suppose. I don’t do marathons often as they aren’t practical and don’t really serve a true training purpose.

fair enough… the johnstone using magnetic resistence as opposed to fan. could that make a difference?

no probem. cheers for the help.
scott

super bump.

i was rowing today and watching the split very carefully…

it never went above 2.05/500 metres.

yet it still took me 10mins to do 2k. that

doesnt seem right to me???

cheers
Scott

That’s not right. A 10 min. 2k should be a 2:30/500 meters split. So somethin is messed up with that machine. Like I said, find a gym that has Concept2, they truly are a better machine by far.

when im back to uni in 2 weeks they have brand new concept 2’s… and no one seems to use them so they should be in top notch condition. i wanna see what i can do on one of them when i get back.

im having to use these shitty johnstones to do the marathon… so im assuming whatever time i get will probably not be repersentative of what i could get on a concept2… also becasue this machine is fucked up im probably going to be doign 50k or something. lol

aw well… lol

Scott

Why not just wait till you get to your uni and do it on a concept2? If you’re gonna do a marathon you might as well do it right.

i gotta do it the gym i work at…

im doing it for one of the guys i work with’s charitys. theres a paper soming and stuff.

fuck it… lol

Liquid,

Looks like you have a lot of experience. What’s a good 500m time? For example for:

High school kid
Collegiate rower
International-level

I’m talking about on the concept 2 btw. I just started doing and interested to see where I stack up.

It depends. Most rowers do not test for 500m. We do 2000m so an all out 500 meter row isn’t done unless people are just fuckin around. That being said I’ll give some ball-park guesses.

High School:
ltwt: 1:37
hvywt: 1:35

Collegiate:
ltwt: 1:30
hvywt: 1:27

International:
ltwt: 1:20-1:25
hvywt: 1:15-1:20

Oh okay. I’m a collegiate volleyball player but my strength coach had me try out the 500m row just to see what I could do. I did 1:24 on setting 9 the other day on basically the first time I’ve ever tried it. My strength coach said that was a pretty good time for somebody just starting out so I wanted to see where that was. I always thought it might be a cool sport to get into after I was out of college.

2000m would be some serious cardio for me though, a minute and a half was long enough haha.

Well those were ballpark numbers that I gave and vary hugely. I’ve seen college guys go below 1:20 for 500, and I’ve seen high schoolers go below 1:30. Those are just avgs at best I’d say.

Also, don’t put the damper on 9 or anything above 5 if you are planning on doing any longer distance work. It’s a great way to get back problems.

[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
Oh okay. I’m a collegiate volleyball player but my strength coach had me try out the 500m row just to see what I could do. I did 1:24 on setting 9 the other day on basically the first time I’ve ever tried it. My strength coach said that was a pretty good time for somebody just starting out so I wanted to see where that was. I always thought it might be a cool sport to get into after I was out of college.

2000m would be some serious cardio for me though, a minute and a half was long enough haha.[/quote]

1:24 is a very good 500m time, although not a race thats usually competed in.

I gotcha. Doing 500m all-out was killer enough, I think I’d pass out if I did a 2000m. Shit, a set of 5 squats is like cardio to me!

2k is a mixture of pacing yourself and having a ton of power. 6k races (fall races) are a good bit slower splits then 2k and a lot more even paced, there’s no huge sprint usually.

You may wanna try a Tabata Protocol on the Erg. 20 seconds all out followed by 10 seconds of rest. Its a killer and it only takes 4 minutes.

[quote]SeanButler89 wrote:
You may wanna try a Tabata Protocol on the Erg. 20 seconds all out followed by 10 seconds of rest. Its a killer and it only takes 4 minutes.[/quote]

This has been discussed ad nauseum a few pages back.

Super dupa awesome mega bump

Just come back from Sculling camp in France…

OMG

It was amazing did about 4 hours of sculling a day, got a bit hot in the afternoon.

At the start of the camp I was just at arms only, the river+coach+confidence got me to full slide after two hours.

By the end of the camp could scull pretty well for a complete beginner.

I am going back next year for sure…

…Sculling seems to be the way forward as there is 0 faff and you know everyone is making the same effort/sticking to the training program.

Well glad to you hear you had such a positive experience with sculling echelon. Sculling programs and sweep you’d think would have the same amount of people making the same effort/sticking to the training program. It’s not the type of rowing that dictates that, just the people in the club. That being said I’ll choose sculling over everything except for an 8+. Also I’m super jealous that you got to go to a sculling camp in france.