a few thousands of neolithic tribesmen.
Maybe a few millions.
Modern ideologies will allways win this morbid litle game, simply because they came after the industrial revolution and the demographic transition.
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
False. Saul did not kill an entire race or genus of people, nor did God tell him to.
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First off, I’m cutting all your obfuscation bullshit out. I don’t have the time to join in on the semantics circle-jerk you’re trying to start.
Second, WTF? Okay, what exactly DID God tell Saul to do? Tickle them? I suppose they all just fell on Saul’s sword then…
EDIT* Oh, I see what game you’re playing. God only says to kill all the Amalekites in the Mitzvah, he didn’t say it to Saul personally. Also, Saul DIDN’T kill an entire genus of people, but only because, as I stated, he left the king alive, or maybe you’re referring to the few Amalekites who escaped? << These are the sort of loopholes only a true weasel could think of. Congratulations. It changes nothing, but congratulations nonetheless.
I doubt it. Since post #1 you haven’t stfu about how “pointless” you think this conversation is, yet you haven’t left.
You’re going to respond to this. You know it. I know it. Don’t bullshit me. [/quote]
LOL! K, let me ask you this. Do you believe in God?[/quote]
Called it!
Also, good job dodging the issue again.
Do I believe in God? Well I suppose that depends on how you define God. Given what I know about you, compared to you, I am an atheist.
But just to be sure, you should define God. [/quote]
Well if you call refusing to answer your silly question and telling you I won’t dodging then fine. I don’t give shit.
I see you are refusing to answer mine. Let me call you a bunch of names to compell you to answer it… Nah.
If you don’t want to, don’t. But I won’t answer you either.
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
Saddam was a secularist he killed people because they were in his way or just annoying him.[/quote]
Yeah, I guess all that “Sunni” stuff was just B.S.
You’ve discredited yourself here. As weak as it is, there are some signs that Hitler drifted from Christianity near the end of his life, but this is clearly just a case of you passing the hot potato and it leads me to believe you were simply doing the same with Hitler. [/quote]
Hitler was not a Christian because he did not follow Christ. Someone can call themselves something, that doesn’t mean they are. It means their lying:
28 What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, Son, go and work today in the vineyard 29 ‘I will not’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went. 30 Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will’, sir, but he did not go. 31 Which of the two did what his father wanted?
The first,they answered. Jesus said to them, Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him. -Matthew 21:28-32
Hitler was the Son who said he would obey his Father, but didn’t. [/quote]
Aren’t we already having this discussion in your thread? Do you really want to double up like this? [/quote]
I am commissioned to squash falsity where I see it. You spoke falsity so I squashed it. Hitler was not a Christian. It is like calling someone who does bicep curls in the squat rack a Bodybuilder. If someone called a squat rack bicep curler a bodybuilder, I would tell them they are wrong. What kind of person profanes the bodybuilding endeavor by calling a squat rack curler a bodybuilder? The answer is the person doing curls in the squat rack.[/quote]
Your analogy only works under the assumption that what you’re trying to prove is already true.
But, since you’re here to spread truth and all, I have a question for you. Perhaps you have enough courage to answer. If God, himself, commanded you to kill Hitler, would you?[/quote]
“You have heard that it was said, Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”-Matthew 5: 43-48
[quote]kamui wrote:
yep.
but it’s actually a good thing.
If they were good atheists, we would have to separate the wheat.
But since there is none, we can just burn up the chaff :)[/quote]
Every time you sin you are an atheist.
Because sinning is turning oneself away from God. which is the same thing than denying Him.
I know.
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
Saddam was a secularist he killed people because they were in his way or just annoying him.[/quote]
Yeah, I guess all that “Sunni” stuff was just B.S.
You’ve discredited yourself here. As weak as it is, there are some signs that Hitler drifted from Christianity near the end of his life, but this is clearly just a case of you passing the hot potato and it leads me to believe you were simply doing the same with Hitler. [/quote]
Hitler was not a Christian because he did not follow Christ. Someone can call themselves something, that doesn’t mean they are. It means their lying:
28 What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, Son, go and work today in the vineyard 29 ‘I will not’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went. 30 Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will’, sir, but he did not go. 31 Which of the two did what his father wanted?
The first,they answered. Jesus said to them, Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him. -Matthew 21:28-32
Hitler was the Son who said he would obey his Father, but didn’t. [/quote]
Aren’t we already having this discussion in your thread? Do you really want to double up like this? [/quote]
I am commissioned to squash falsity where I see it. You spoke falsity so I squashed it. Hitler was not a Christian. It is like calling someone who does bicep curls in the squat rack a Bodybuilder. If someone called a squat rack bicep curler a bodybuilder, I would tell them they are wrong. What kind of person profanes the bodybuilding endeavor by calling a squat rack curler a bodybuilder? The answer is the person doing curls in the squat rack.[/quote]
Your analogy only works under the assumption that what you’re trying to prove is already true.
But, since you’re here to spread truth and all, I have a question for you. Perhaps you have enough courage to answer. If God, himself, commanded you to kill Hitler, would you?[/quote]
“You have heard that it was said, Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”-Matthew 5: 43-48
[/quote]
So… no?
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
Saddam was a secularist he killed people because they were in his way or just annoying him.[/quote]
Yeah, I guess all that “Sunni” stuff was just B.S.
You’ve discredited yourself here. As weak as it is, there are some signs that Hitler drifted from Christianity near the end of his life, but this is clearly just a case of you passing the hot potato and it leads me to believe you were simply doing the same with Hitler. [/quote]
Hitler was not a Christian because he did not follow Christ. Someone can call themselves something, that doesn’t mean they are. It means their lying:
28 What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, Son, go and work today in the vineyard 29 ‘I will not’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went. 30 Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will’, sir, but he did not go. 31 Which of the two did what his father wanted?
The first,they answered. Jesus said to them, Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him. -Matthew 21:28-32
Hitler was the Son who said he would obey his Father, but didn’t. [/quote]
Aren’t we already having this discussion in your thread? Do you really want to double up like this? [/quote]
I am commissioned to squash falsity where I see it. You spoke falsity so I squashed it. Hitler was not a Christian. It is like calling someone who does bicep curls in the squat rack a Bodybuilder. If someone called a squat rack bicep curler a bodybuilder, I would tell them they are wrong. What kind of person profanes the bodybuilding endeavor by calling a squat rack curler a bodybuilder? The answer is the person doing curls in the squat rack.[/quote]
Your analogy only works under the assumption that what you’re trying to prove is already true.
But, since you’re here to spread truth and all, I have a question for you. Perhaps you have enough courage to answer. If God, himself, commanded you to kill Hitler, would you?[/quote]
“You have heard that it was said, Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”-Matthew 5: 43-48
[/quote]
So… no? [/quote]
We live in an imperfect world. Because of this, often we are forced to choose between two evils. If killing hitler saved many people, then I may have to choose that evil. But God would not command me to do that. Jesus is an ideal. He knows that it is impossible to achieve that ideal but were supposed to try. Ideally however, I wouldn’t have to do any killing at all.
[quote]pat wrote:
Well if you call refusing to answer your silly question and telling you I won’t dodging then fine. I don’t give shit. [/quote]
Well that’s pretty much the definition of dodging the question, so… yeah.
[quote]
I see you are refusing to answer mine. Let me call you a bunch of names to compell you to answer it… Nah.
If you don’t want to, don’t. But I won’t answer you either.[/quote]
… Did you miss the part where I said, depending on your definition of “God”, I am an atheist? That’s an answer, genius. I don’t know how you define God, so this is the most accurate answer I can give to you.
Given what I know about you, I am an atheist from your perspective. However, depending on how broadly you define “God”, I could be a pantheist, or a deist, or an agnostic, or any other quasi-theistic example.
I’m not afraid to answer any question you have about me. I’m confident in my positions and so I have no fear of you “trapping” me. Worst case scenario, I find out I was wrong about something and change my mind. Big deal. I’m not afraid of being wrong either.
I was hoping at some point you’d find your nut-sack and do the same, but whatever. I can’t force you to stay if you don’t want to.
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
Saddam was a secularist he killed people because they were in his way or just annoying him.[/quote]
Yeah, I guess all that “Sunni” stuff was just B.S.
You’ve discredited yourself here. As weak as it is, there are some signs that Hitler drifted from Christianity near the end of his life, but this is clearly just a case of you passing the hot potato and it leads me to believe you were simply doing the same with Hitler. [/quote]
Hitler was not a Christian because he did not follow Christ. Someone can call themselves something, that doesn’t mean they are. It means their lying:
28 What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, Son, go and work today in the vineyard 29 ‘I will not’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went. 30 Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will’, sir, but he did not go. 31 Which of the two did what his father wanted?
The first,they answered. Jesus said to them, Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him. -Matthew 21:28-32
Hitler was the Son who said he would obey his Father, but didn’t. [/quote]
Aren’t we already having this discussion in your thread? Do you really want to double up like this? [/quote]
I am commissioned to squash falsity where I see it. You spoke falsity so I squashed it. Hitler was not a Christian. It is like calling someone who does bicep curls in the squat rack a Bodybuilder. If someone called a squat rack bicep curler a bodybuilder, I would tell them they are wrong. What kind of person profanes the bodybuilding endeavor by calling a squat rack curler a bodybuilder? The answer is the person doing curls in the squat rack.[/quote]
Your analogy only works under the assumption that what you’re trying to prove is already true.
But, since you’re here to spread truth and all, I have a question for you. Perhaps you have enough courage to answer. If God, himself, commanded you to kill Hitler, would you?[/quote]
“You have heard that it was said, Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”-Matthew 5: 43-48
[/quote]
So… no? [/quote]
We live in an imperfect world. Because of this, often we are forced to choose between two evils. If killing hitler saved many people, then I may have to choose that evil. But God would not command me to do that. Jesus is an ideal. He knows that it is impossible to achieve that ideal but were supposed to try. Ideally however, I wouldn’t have to do any killing at all.
[/quote]
Are you catholic?
All right, but what if you were in (OT) Saul’s position? Would you kill king Agag along with his people, or defy Deuteronomy 25:19?
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
Saddam was a secularist he killed people because they were in his way or just annoying him.[/quote]
Yeah, I guess all that “Sunni” stuff was just B.S.
You’ve discredited yourself here. As weak as it is, there are some signs that Hitler drifted from Christianity near the end of his life, but this is clearly just a case of you passing the hot potato and it leads me to believe you were simply doing the same with Hitler. [/quote]
Hitler was not a Christian because he did not follow Christ. Someone can call themselves something, that doesn’t mean they are. It means their lying:
28 What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, Son, go and work today in the vineyard 29 ‘I will not’ he answered, but later he changed his mind and went. 30 Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, ‘I will’, sir, but he did not go. 31 Which of the two did what his father wanted?
The first,they answered. Jesus said to them, Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him. -Matthew 21:28-32
Hitler was the Son who said he would obey his Father, but didn’t. [/quote]
Aren’t we already having this discussion in your thread? Do you really want to double up like this? [/quote]
I am commissioned to squash falsity where I see it. You spoke falsity so I squashed it. Hitler was not a Christian. It is like calling someone who does bicep curls in the squat rack a Bodybuilder. If someone called a squat rack bicep curler a bodybuilder, I would tell them they are wrong. What kind of person profanes the bodybuilding endeavor by calling a squat rack curler a bodybuilder? The answer is the person doing curls in the squat rack.[/quote]
Your analogy only works under the assumption that what you’re trying to prove is already true.
But, since you’re here to spread truth and all, I have a question for you. Perhaps you have enough courage to answer. If God, himself, commanded you to kill Hitler, would you?[/quote]
“You have heard that it was said, Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”-Matthew 5: 43-48
[/quote]
So… no? [/quote]
We live in an imperfect world. Because of this, often we are forced to choose between two evils. If killing hitler saved many people, then I may have to choose that evil. But God would not command me to do that. Jesus is an ideal. He knows that it is impossible to achieve that ideal but were supposed to try. Ideally however, I wouldn’t have to do any killing at all.
[/quote]
Are you catholic?
All right, but what if you were in (OT) Saul’s position? Would you kill king Agag along with his people, or defy Deuteronomy 25:19? [/quote]
Catholic yes. Asking me what I would do is not a good question because frankly, everything is easier said than done. Based on the scripture, I feel like I would have spared him like Saul did. But it is likely that the scripture was meant to teach an overall lesson, rather than present a dichotomy that presents God as evil.
[quote]kamui wrote:
a few thousands of neolithic tribesmen.
Maybe a few millions.
Modern ideologies will allways win this morbid litle game, simply because they came after the industrial revolution and the demographic transition.
[/quote]
Actually, the estimate is around 20 million, but this number doesn’t include all the non-human life God murdered.
You might be interested in this >> Dwindling In Unbelief: How many has God killed? Complete list and estimated total (Including Apocryphal killings)
The best one is #22.
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
a few thousands of neolithic tribesmen.
Maybe a few millions.
Modern ideologies will allways win this morbid litle game, simply because they came after the industrial revolution and the demographic transition.
[/quote]
Actually, the estimate is around 20 million, but this number doesn’t include all the non-human life God murdered.
You might be interested in this >> http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html[/quote]
How does dwelling on this help you or your cause? If God doesn’t exist, why bother painting something that doesn’t exist as evil? If God does exist, then you are just going further away from him. I notice no atheist dares to read the teachings of Jesus and its obvious because they agree with him and admire him.
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
How does dwelling on this help you or your cause? If God doesn’t exist, why bother painting something that doesn’t exist as evil? If God does exist, then you are just going further away from him. I notice no atheist dares to read the teachings of Jesus and its obvious because they agree with him and admire him.
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According to you, he exists, so for you to say that my side has the biggest killers sounds suspiciously like you doubt the existence of your God. Surely you, as a Christian, must think that more death has occurred in the name of God than for any other reason. No mere atheist, even if we were to include Hitler, has managed genocide on a planetary scale. I can’t name a single figure (who supposedly exists) more efficient or more creative at killing than Yahweh. Can you?
I have my disagreements with Jesus, but they aren’t quite to the scale of, say, God killing 14,700 people for complaining about all the Killing he does. (Numbers 16)
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
Well if you call refusing to answer your silly question and telling you I won’t dodging then fine. I don’t give shit. [/quote]
Well that’s pretty much the definition of dodging the question, so… yeah.
[quote]
I see you are refusing to answer mine. Let me call you a bunch of names to compell you to answer it… Nah.
If you don’t want to, don’t. But I won’t answer you either.[/quote]
… Did you miss the part where I said, depending on your definition of “God”, I am an atheist? That’s an answer, genius. I don’t know how you define God, so this is the most accurate answer I can give to you.
Given what I know about you, I am an atheist from your perspective. However, depending on how broadly you define “God”, I could be a pantheist, or a deist, or an agnostic, or any other quasi-theistic example.
I’m not afraid to answer any question you have about me. I’m confident in my positions and so I have no fear of you “trapping” me. Worst case scenario, I find out I was wrong about something and change my mind. Big deal. I’m not afraid of being wrong either.
I was hoping at some point you’d find your nut-sack and do the same, but whatever. I can’t force you to stay if you don’t want to. [/quote]
My perspective? My perspective has nothing to do with it. You either believe that a creator or more accurately called, a Necessary Being exists, or you don’t. There’s not shades here, it’s binary.
What am I wrong about?
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
a few thousands of neolithic tribesmen.
Maybe a few millions.
Modern ideologies will allways win this morbid litle game, simply because they came after the industrial revolution and the demographic transition.
[/quote]
Actually, the estimate is around 20 million, but this number doesn’t include all the non-human life God murdered.
You might be interested in this >> Dwindling In Unbelief: How many has God killed? Complete list and estimated total (Including Apocryphal killings)
The best one is #22. [/quote]
LOL! And you said you didn’t get all your information from atheist propaganda websites…I am betting this is where you ‘read’ the bible too.
20 million is nothing. Atheists killed 300 million last century alone. You win!
HAHA conservapedia, that is great.
[quote]fibroblaster wrote:
Catholic yes. Asking me what I would do is not a good question because frankly, everything is easier said than done. Based on the scripture, I feel like I would have spared him like Saul did. But it is likely that the scripture was meant to teach an overall lesson, rather than present a dichotomy that presents God as evil.[/quote]
I like you, Fibro. You’re not the coward that Pat is.
Just so I’m clear, you would spare the king, but not the civilians?
[quote]pat wrote:
My perspective? My perspective has nothing to do with it. You either believe that a creator or more accurately called, a Necessary Being exists, or you don’t. There’s not shades here, it’s binary.
What am I wrong about?[/quote]
Actually, your perspective is literally all that matters when you’re asking the question. If you define God as simply the energy within all matter, Then you would get a different answer than if you defined God as a bearded, toga wearing, lightning wielding Greek. Understand?
I think it’s possible, but that’s about it. I see no reason to assume a creator and I see reason to suggest there is no creator.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
a few thousands of neolithic tribesmen.
Maybe a few millions.
Modern ideologies will allways win this morbid litle game, simply because they came after the industrial revolution and the demographic transition.
[/quote]
Actually, the estimate is around 20 million, but this number doesn’t include all the non-human life God murdered.
You might be interested in this >> Dwindling In Unbelief: How many has God killed? Complete list and estimated total (Including Apocryphal killings)
The best one is #22. [/quote]
LOL! And you said you didn’t get all your information from atheist propaganda websites…I am betting this is where you ‘read’ the bible too.
20 million is nothing. Atheists killed 300 million last century alone. You win!
http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Mass_Murder
I know you won’t believe me, but this was the first time I’ve been to that cite. I’ve seen this list on other cites, but This is just what popped up on Google.
And no, I’ve told you already, I read the King James version of the bible I got from my grandfather when he died.
And ,wow. Conservapedia. The same cite that suggests the earth is 6000 years old. I’m sure this is a reliable source.
" It has been estimated that in less than the past 100 years, governments under the banner of communism have caused the death of somewhere between 40,472,000 to 259,432,000 human lives."
… 40-260 million. That’s the grey area. You have a grey area equal to 6.5 times the base number.
The problem with these numbers, assuming they’re accurate, assume the very thing we are arguing about; Who is religious and who is not. It’s also worth noting that the sources for these cites are incredibly biased. And before you call bias on me, my arguments come from both the bible itself and Hitler’s own words.
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]kamui wrote:
a few thousands of neolithic tribesmen.
Maybe a few millions.
Modern ideologies will allways win this morbid litle game, simply because they came after the industrial revolution and the demographic transition.
[/quote]
Actually, the estimate is around 20 million, but this number doesn’t include all the non-human life God murdered.
You might be interested in this >> Dwindling In Unbelief: How many has God killed? Complete list and estimated total (Including Apocryphal killings)
The best one is #22. [/quote]
LOL! And you said you didn’t get all your information from atheist propaganda websites…I am betting this is where you ‘read’ the bible too.
20 million is nothing. Atheists killed 300 million last century alone. You win!
http://conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_Mass_Murder
I know you won’t believe me, but this was the first time I’ve been to that cite. I’ve seen this list on other cites, but This is just what popped up on Google.
And no, I’ve told you already, I read the King James version of the bible I got from my grandfather when he died.
And ,wow. Conservapedia. The same cite that suggests the earth is 6 000 years old. I’m sure this is a reliable source.
" It has been estimated that in less than the past 100 years, governments under the banner of communism have caused the death of somewhere between 40,472,000 to 259,432,000 human lives."
… 40-260 million. That’s the grey area. You have a grey area equal to 6.5 times the base number.
The problem with these numbers, assuming they’re accurate, assume the very thing we are arguing about; Who is religious and who is not. It’s also worth noting that the sources for these cites are incredibly biased. And before you call bias on me, my arguments come from both the bible itself and Hitler’s own words.[/quote]
I can drop sources all day long if you don’t like those that’s not a problem, the point is lots of bad folks have done lots of bad things in this world through out history. Trying to say one side was worse is pretty useless to do. Like I said, when it comes to blood letting, you atheists take the prize. But it doesn’t matter, does it. Are you going to kill millions of people because Mao se Tung did? No, at least I hope not.
A King James bible when your grandfather died??? This sounds very familiar to me, you’ve been here before under a different name?? That or you went away for a while.
Would you stop trying to convince me you read it? When you demonstrate a modicum of biblical knowledge as someone who read it, then I’ll believe you. All your quotes and points are basically cut and pastes or paraphrases of those silly atheist propaganda sites, like the one you pasted above.
I hate to tell you, but you aren’t making arguments, you spew random stuff about lots of things, but I couldn’t tell you an ‘argument’ you’ve made. I mean, you’re trying to imply that God is evil by way of said propaganda websites, but you have yet to come out and say it, which I think would be preferred…
Lastly, are you still seriously on that Hitler was a Christian? I mean wow…
I suppose you got this here:
http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian.htm
I also found some of your biblical quotes there too. And you want anybody to believe you came up with this crap on your own? That you have honest intentions and want to discuss this stuff?
I’ve told you I have heard it all before.