Ronnie Doing Stones!!!

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I re-read the posts on Marunde’s site. There were a few posts at the beginning of people that thought the pictures may have been photoshopped. I don’t think this is because anyone thinks he couldn’t lift the stone, it is just because his forearms weren’t touching (as I had mentioned earlier).

Then there were a few posts that stated they thought that his age would likely not allow him enough time to make a switch into strongman and win the WSM, Superseries, or IFSA titles. But the general consensus would be that he could win his pro card and some competitions, would do quite well at the static events (brute strength) but would have problems in the speed/mobile events due to his size. It was also mentioned that his lack of height could cause issues for him.

In all, I don’t really see anyone “hating” on him or claiming he couldn’t do it. They are mostly stating he would be good but not likely the best and given the money he makes in BB there’d be no reason to switch.

I’d love to see him in Strongman. I think he is a freak and I’d like to see what kind of performance he could put together. I’m much more entertained by strength athletics than modeling contests. I think he might have a shot at a top finish given that he has been using strongman events as part of his regular regimen.

Regards,

Sensless

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[quote]PGA200X wrote:
Yes they were tearing him down. Go read some of the responses on Marunde’s site.[/quote]

Other than the people who who said he would have a heart attack on the medleys, I dont think any of the posts were negative. My understanding of what Marunde wrote was that Ronnie wouldnt be AS GOOD in strongman as he is in bodybuilding, because he is THE BEST there is in bodybuilding.

I think the main contention on that site springs from what it means to be “good” or “competitive” in strongman. If by “good” you mean “one of the top five in the world” well then, yeah, I find it pretty hard to imagine Ronnie in the company of Zydrunas, Virastuk, all those guys. This is simply because, to be the best at any sport, you need to invest time in training specifically that sport.

However, my interpretation of “good” would mean that someone who’s won a few contests and, if they dont already have their pro card, is one of the favorites to be the next to win a card. I think the idea that Ronnie wouldnt win the first amateur contest he enters is improbable - at best. An 800x2 DL - and I have to guess, because theres no definitive listing of this -is rare at the amateur level for his weight class. I know that a deadlift doesnt always translate perfectly to tire-flipping, or stone, or whatever, but it is a good indicator of strength if not necessarily technique.

Also, I would be surprised if he hadnt won his pro card by the end of the year, either at nat’ls or a pro-am (assuming that he wanted to win one enough to put effort into getting it, ie training with the implements, getting some contests under his belt, etc.)

What happens next when he’s at the pro level - where guys like Steve Macdonald can rep 700 for 6, or a LIGHTWEIGHT pro like mike johnston can pull 800 off the floor, or 1000 from 18" - is anyones guess, and speculation in which I will not engage.

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[quote]KBCThird wrote:
PGA200X wrote:
Yes they were tearing him down. Go read some of the responses on Marunde’s site.

Other than the people who who said he would have a heart attack on the medleys, I dont think any of the posts were negative. My understanding of what Marunde wrote was that Ronnie wouldnt be AS GOOD in strongman as he is in bodybuilding, because he is THE BEST there is in bodybuilding.

I think the main contention on that site springs from what it means to be “good” or “competitive” in strongman. If by “good” you mean “one of the top five in the world” well then, yeah, I find it pretty hard to imagine Ronnie in the company of Zydrunas, Virastuk, all those guys. This is simply because, to be the best at any sport, you need to invest time in training specifically that sport.

However, my interpretation of “good” would mean that someone who’s won a few contests and, if they dont already have their pro card, is one of the favorites to be the next to win a card. I think the idea that Ronnie wouldnt win the first amateur contest he enters is improbable - at best. An 800x2 DL - and I have to guess, because theres no definitive listing of this -is rare at the amateur level for his weight class. I know that a deadlift doesnt always translate perfectly to tire-flipping, or stone, or whatever, but it is a good indicator of strength if not necessarily technique.

Also, I would be surprised if he hadnt won his pro card by the end of the year, either at nat’ls or a pro-am (assuming that he wanted to win one enough to put effort into getting it, ie training with the implements, getting some contests under his belt, etc.)

What happens next when he’s at the pro level - where guys like Steve Macdonald can rep 700 for 6, or a LIGHTWEIGHT pro like mike johnston can pull 800 off the floor, or 1000 from 18" - is anyones guess, and speculation in which I will not engage.[/quote]

Marunde deleted his post where he said he was stronger than Ronnie. Its still quoted there. He may have been kidding around/joking but if so why delete it?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
human743 wrote:
Wayland wrote:
to be honest i can see this as a smart career move for ronnie once he finishes competing in BBing

I agree, and a smart career move for some of these posters is 4th grade. I wonder how a photoshopped 23" diameter arm would look, anybody?

Clearly it wasn’t understood that the balls are measured in diameters. I would venture that everyone doesn’t follow strongman comps that closely or care to.[/quote]

Pretty much everything in the world except bodyparts are measured in diameter, not circumference. Whether you are putting on exhaust pipes, buying subwoofers, or reporting the size of hail, it’s always diameter.

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[quote]PGA200X wrote:
Marunde deleted his post where he said he was stronger than Ronnie. Its still quoted there. He may have been kidding around/joking but if so why delete it?[/quote]

Huh? I’m looking at a post right now where marunde writes

I’m sure he’d be silly strong, but not as strong as me :wink:

is that the one you’re talking about? I looked through the thread for another line he had written that was quoted (i saw the above line quoted 2 or 3 times) but couldnt find one. I’m guessing that is the one you mean, I htink it’s pretty clear that he’s joking, as you said, as indicated by the smilies

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[quote]human743 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
human743 wrote:
Wayland wrote:
to be honest i can see this as a smart career move for ronnie once he finishes competing in BBing

I agree, and a smart career move for some of these posters is 4th grade. I wonder how a photoshopped 23" diameter arm would look, anybody?

Clearly it wasn’t understood that the balls are measured in diameters. I would venture that everyone doesn’t follow strongman comps that closely or care to.

Pretty much everything in the world except bodyparts are measured in diameter, not circumference. Whether you are putting on exhaust pipes, buying subwoofers, or reporting the size of hail, it’s always diameter. [/quote]

Well, I personally will not believe you until it gets repeated at least 37 more times.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
human743 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
human743 wrote:
Wayland wrote:
to be honest i can see this as a smart career move for ronnie once he finishes competing in BBing

I agree, and a smart career move for some of these posters is 4th grade. I wonder how a photoshopped 23" diameter arm would look, anybody?

Clearly it wasn’t understood that the balls are measured in diameters. I would venture that everyone doesn’t follow strongman comps that closely or care to.

Pretty much everything in the world except bodyparts are measured in diameter, not circumference. Whether you are putting on exhaust pipes, buying subwoofers, or reporting the size of hail, it’s always diameter.

Well, I personally will not believe you until it gets repeated at least 37 more times.
[/quote]

OK, here goes…

Oh, screw it. I don’t believe me either. I am going to go listen to my 47.12 inch subs and replace the 1.57 mm lead in my pencil. Then I will eat a 43.98 inch pizza.

Whoa, whoa, Prof. X! I am just messing around, don’t kill me.

Just in case, I am keeping my Colt 1.41 ACP handy.

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[quote]Oh, screw it. I don’t believe me either. I am going to go listen to my 47.12 inch subs and replace the 1.57 mm lead in my pencil. Then I will eat a 43.98 inch pizza.

Whoa, whoa, Prof. X! I am just messing around, don’t kill me.

Just in case, I am keeping my Colt 1.41 ACP handy.[/quote]

LMAO.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I think it is a styrofoam rock.

His muscles are too big to be strong.

What a wuss.[/quote]

Wrong, it’s just a grey swiss ball that he is moving into the aerobics room. Ronnie is obviously working on his functional muscles, which would explain why it appears that he is struggling to pick the thing up. In the next picture in the series (not shown, just do a google search) Ronnie is DB pressing 50lb DB’s and screaming “LIGHT WEIGHT, BABY!!”.

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I think all of this will likely be “resolved” sometime in the near future since that stone lift will likely end up on a Ronnie DVD and we can get a better idea of what was lifted and how.

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[quote]Phatshady912 wrote:
Andy Shelton wrote:
Looks to be an 18 or 20 inch(diameter stone). It probably weights between 240 and 340 depending.

If that is a 20" stone then Mr. Olympia has 10" arms…[/quote]

Someone needs to learn the difference between circumference and diameter.

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For those that don’t even know about stones, why even comment? To make yourself look like a fool?

That stone is definitely no larger than 18" and is more likely 16". You don’t have to look at his arms, just look at the stone. It probably weighs in the area of 200 lbs, assuming this is real in the first place.

Big Ron would do well on static events, car squat, deadlift, and possibly OHP if he started training log and axle. Other than that he would get crushed on every event…assuming he would survive a medley. :slight_smile:

Again, why even talk about how he would do or if he should crossover?

You don’t hear us strongman talk about how well Jesse Marunde or Mariusz could do if they turned to dressing in oil and wearing speedos and posing with other half naked men. HA!

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[quote]MachineAZ wrote:
For those that don’t even know about stones, why even comment? To make yourself look like a fool?

That stone is definitely no larger than 18" and is more likely 16". You don’t have to look at his arms, just look at the stone. It probably weighs in the area of 200 lbs, assuming this is real in the first place.

Big Ron would do well on static events, car squat, deadlift, and possibly OHP if he started training log and axle. Other than that he would get crushed on every event…assuming he would survive a medley. :slight_smile:

Again, why even talk about how he would do or if he should crossover?

You don’t hear us strongman talk about how well Jesse Marunde or Mariusz could do if they turned to dressing in oil and wearing speedos and posing with other half naked men. HA![/quote]

Pardon my pun, but because others have cast the first stone here. It was just a photo of him lifting a stone. That’s it. And the strongmen had to come up with all sorts of justifications for the photo as if it were seemingly impossible for a bodybuilder to be strong.

I could care less about the intimate details of stones. This was more about the increasingly spread misconception that bodybuilders are weak or non-functional or whatever. Your post just basically reconfirmed the same bias all over again, so thanks for proving the point.

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[quote]MachineAZ wrote:
For those that don’t even know about stones, why even comment? To make yourself look like a fool?

That stone is definitely no larger than 18" and is more likely 16". You don’t have to look at his arms, just look at the stone. It probably weighs in the area of 200 lbs, assuming this is real in the first place.

Big Ron would do well on static events, car squat, deadlift, and possibly OHP if he started training log and axle. Other than that he would get crushed on every event…assuming he would survive a medley. :slight_smile:

Again, why even talk about how he would do or if he should crossover?

You don’t hear us strongman talk about how well Jesse Marunde or Mariusz could do if they turned to dressing in oil and wearing speedos and posing with other half naked men. HA![/quote]

Maybe the strongmen don’t talk about it, but many people upon seeing Mariusz in a competition say “Damn, that dude could place in a bodybuilding comp right now!”

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I think this just teaches everybody that at higher levels but not the very top of a given strength sport the boundaries between strength sports blur. Ronnie could probably do well in Strongman and Mariusz in bodybuilding; people at that level are just overall amazing strength athletes, end of story. The sports aren’t as divided as you might think. Bodybuilders and Strongmen both squat, deadlift, press, and pull heavy, and have much more in common than they do different.

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[quote]virid wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
these were posted on another site, thought I’d share

Christ! Where’s he going with that thing? Looks like he’s about to do a layup…[/quote]

Nope-

HULK…Smash!

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[quote]human743 wrote:
Wayland wrote:
to be honest i can see this as a smart career move for ronnie once he finishes competing in BBing

I agree, and a smart career move for some of these posters is 4th grade. I wonder how a photoshopped 23" diameter arm would look, anybody?[/quote]

like something more disgusting than Gregg Valentino’s “syntharms”?

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jeez-s. nobody on this whole thread was putting ronnie down and yet you’ve all turned a few pics of a him lifting a stone into a phantom’s parade of paranoia. wtf ? and where’s this fabricated bullshit about jesse marunde saying stuff and then deleting it ? if you think he really did that why don’t you just go ask him about it and tell us what he says ?

fuckin spindoctors.

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[quote]KombatAthlete wrote:
I think this just teaches everybody that at higher levels but not the very top of a given strength sport the boundaries between strength sports blur. Ronnie could probably do well in Strongman and Mariusz in bodybuilding; people at that level are just overall amazing strength athletes, end of story. The sports aren’t as divided as you might think. Bodybuilders and Strongmen both squat, deadlift, press, and pull heavy, and have much more in common than they do different.[/quote]

Great post.

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[quote]MachineAZ wrote:
For those that don’t even know about stones, why even comment? To make yourself look like a fool?

That stone is definitely no larger than 18" and is more likely 16". You don’t have to look at his arms, just look at the stone. It probably weighs in the area of 200 lbs, assuming this is real in the first place.

Big Ron would do well on static events, car squat, deadlift, and possibly OHP if he started training log and axle. Other than that he would get crushed on every event…assuming he would survive a medley. :slight_smile:

Again, why even talk about how he would do or if he should crossover?

You don’t hear us strongman talk about how well Jesse Marunde or Mariusz could do if they turned to dressing in oil and wearing speedos and posing with other half naked men. HA![/quote]

Oh please… Marius and Jesse are both on the wear a speedo and keep a fake tan campaign. Marius was too busy backstage at Arnold putting on cocunut tannig oil to worry about the actual events. And Jesse says on ironmind that he wants to be the first strongman on a cover a bodybuilding mag. Funny no bodybuilders care, but Ronnie lifts one stone…