[quote]carter12 wrote:
Carter12, has some muscle mass, can bench press more than the pink dumbbells, and has hair growing out the crack of his ass, this guy must be using.[/quote]
HAHAHA props for this post. I almost pissed myself.
you guys must be fuckin retarded to think you can bench 650lbs without GH or roids
No, this thread is retarded. It is like you went out and found anyone a lot bigger and more developed than you and started throwing accusations. Most of these guys aren’t that amazingly developed. Short of Bob Sapp, these physiques are attainable by anyone with decent genetics and the drive to hit the weights hard enough over years.
I see little guys get into this way too often. Perhaps if you spent less time accusing everyone more developed than you of using drugs and more time focusing on your own efforts, you too would eventually get the pleasure of being called out by some flaccid skinny fucker who thinks everyone is bigger than him only because of drug use.
I’m going to go against the grain here and say that while I’m not positive all of this guys calls on “who’s clean and who’s not” are accurate. I think he’s real close.
[quote]Orbitalboner wrote:
Massif wrote:
They test for drugs in the UFC. I’m saying that is a 100% guarantee that the fighters are drug free, but it makes it more difficult. Kimo and Tim Silvia have both served suspensions due to testing positive.
You mean it’s NOT a 100% guarantee right? Actually it probably doesn’t deter anyone if they only test the night of the fight. Unless you’re a total genetic freak, I think you’ve got to be pretty stupid to fight without using every advantage available to you. You’re risking your health and brain damage in the ring every time.
I agree it’s impossible to tell just from looking at them, aside from GH guts, and maybe Mirko’s tree trunk legs and bean sized head.[/quote]
Boner,
You are correct. I meant that it is not a 100% guarantee. My bad.
Just one other question about this whole thread, and that is:
“What is your fucking point?”
Seriously.
Using roids is not against the rules in Pride or K1. They are against the rules in UFC. Break the rules, and get suspended and probably lose your match fee.
I just want to know what kicks you are getting out of this. I mean, does this thread have a purpose, or do you just like slagging people for fun?
This is a stupid fucking thread.
I bet u also use the “she doesnt look HIV positive” test dont you?
We should start a thread like this for every sport.
Has it occurred to you that steroids are used for many reasons, not just to build big and freaky physiques. Cyclists and other endurance athletes use too, and you don’t see them rocking 20-inch guns.
Shit, I just looked in the mirror, I think I’m on roids.
gee…another 155 lbs scrawny pencil neck fool who thinks that anyone with more muscle than them is useing AAS and/or GH…
Seriously. You should get a clue as to what is possable without roids before casting aspersions like this.
The only one I would say “looks” like he’s using is the first monster.
If any of the other guys are, they need some serious coaching on how to use effectively.
Jamal Lewis, the RB for the Ravens claimed he don’t lift at all. He said he don’t want to get big due to it might slow him down. He’s a big guy. But Whatever.
[quote]Viking69 wrote:
This is a stupid fucking thread.
I bet u also use the “she doesnt look HIV positive” test dont you?
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Or the “HE doesnt look HIV positive” test, depending on what floats your boat.
Babalu, for some reason these kinds of threads always draw strong reactions. I personally wonder about which athletes are on roids as well, especially MMA guys.
I think Prof X and the others are mistaking curiosity and speculation for criticism. Not at all. Just shooting the shit, and talking about things I talk about with my buddies at the bar or while watching PPVs.
I would think on a bodybuilding/weightlifting site such as this more people would be into this kind of discussion…
Oh, and IMO, Randleman is definitely juiced, no doubt about it. He prob doesn’t do much compared to others. Coleman is another obvious user.
And let’s not talk about Bob Sapp…
MMA on juice or not, EXCELLENT skills cannot be developed by it’s use. Compensation for gypsy-like skills, strength has become.
[quote]Babalu wrote:
Bob Sapp, lifts once a week, obvious GH gut, should be no arguement here…[/quote]
That’s not a gh gut crack head, it’s called he has love handles and he is one of the fattest people in K1 that’s why he has a gut.
[quote]Hill Top Man wrote:
Babalu wrote:
Bob Sapp, lifts once a week, obvious GH gut, should be no arguement here…
That’s not a gh gut crack head, it’s called he has love handles and he is one of the fattest people in K1 that’s why he has a gut.[/quote]
lmfao…Sapp is a fucking house…try walking around with as much muscle as that man, and be totally lean. no GH gut for sure…and not fat in the least.
WORST THREAD EVER.
[quote]Sonny S wrote:
Babalu, for some reason these kinds of threads always draw strong reactions. I personally wonder about which athletes are on roids as well, especially MMA guys.
I think Prof X and the others are mistaking curiosity and speculation for criticism. Not at all. Just shooting the shit, and talking about things I talk about with my buddies at the bar or while watching PPVs.
I would think on a bodybuilding/weightlifting site such as this more people would be into this kind of discussion…
Oh, and IMO, Randleman is definitely juiced, no doubt about it. He prob doesn’t do much compared to others. Coleman is another obvious user.
And let’s not talk about Bob Sapp…
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By “this sort of thread”, do you mean the ones about steroids, or the retarded ones?
There are plenty of excellent steroid threads on this site. The members on thoses threads happen to be very generous with their time and knowledge.
What we don’t appreciate is the “he is bigger than me so it must roids” crowd that don’t have anything to back themselves up except idiot speculation.
[quote]Sonic Reducer wrote:
Plus mass isn’t really beneficial in most cases in MMA, you need to be strong but flexibility is also extremely important in grappling, being very muscular makes it difficult to escape submissions in a lot of cases. [/quote]
Uh…have you ever fought before? Why do you think there are weight classes? Why do you think Randy Couture started doing much better when he dropped down in weight? Try fighting someone much bigger than you some time (say 50 lbs muscle) of equal experience and then try and tell me that that 50 lbs of muscle isn’t giving them an advantage. You ever seen Bob Sapp fight? Fighters have a difficult time submitting him BECAUSE he is so big. It’s difficult to arm bar a tree trunk.
First off this thread is retarded speculation and as others have pointed out there is no reason for it.
Second off the thread starter says his favorite fighter is Leben and I would put money on the fact that he started following MMA right about the time TUF1 aired on TV and knows nothing about fighters other than that “they look strong in the pictures I saw of them.”
Some of your picks may be right, but your reasoning is fucking retarded and lots of what you say is just outright lies. Tell me when Silva walked around at 240?? You are telling me that he cut 35lbs to make weight for his fights?
You think Randy is on roids because he looks cut and is old. Have you ever considered that he is a former olympian who has spent his life wrestling and fighting, keeps his diet under meticulous control AND is extremely dehydrated during his weigh in photos? As for you so cleverly noting Ken Shamrock’s chest as evidence of his steorid usage, are you implying that other 40+ year old men with have tight and toned pectorals because they have never used anabolic steroids? You would think that someone who reads T-Nation knows what hard work and proper diet could accomplish, but instead you pick anyone with a decent physique as roid heads when the only ones who have been caught look the complete opposite.
This thread is garbage.