[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
[quote]chobbs wrote:
Haven’t read the prior comments, but I feel this is the perfect explain of double standards in America.[/quote]
You should learn to not only accept that there are double standards, but acknowledge that they are actually OK. Why is it that you feel there is something wrong with double standards anyway?[/quote]
Because people can pick and choose what situations they want to blow out of proportion
SO a white guy in the NFL calls out black people by their coattails and expects to be physically ok by the end of the season?
lol
[quote]harrypotter wrote:
SO a white guy in the NFL calls out black people by their coattails and expects to be physically ok by the end of the season?
lol[/quote]
with you on that one. I dont think he’ll be playing for the team if this gets much worse, but either way this will be the most dangerous season of his career. Hello illegal hard hit across the middle.
Giving this a second thought in a more dissociated state, this guy is just straight up embarrassing.
I wonder if a majority of non-caucasians believe that white people are racist? is that like a thing?
I got 100% polish blood in me, and not because it necessarily describes me, but I know my people are very… nationalistic. To be fair, we try not to like anyone, equally 
[quote]chobbs wrote:
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
[quote]chobbs wrote:
Haven’t read the prior comments, but I feel this is the perfect explain of double standards in America.[/quote]
You should learn to not only accept that there are double standards, but acknowledge that they are actually OK. Why is it that you feel there is something wrong with double standards anyway?[/quote]
Because people can pick and choose what situations they want to blow out of proportion [/quote]
I’m with you on that.
I am sure Charlie Rangel will be in a sensitivity class soon. Oh and he isn’t a football player, he is an elected official. No worry about him losing his job, someone taking out his knee, taking time off for diversity classes. Nope just go about his business and being paid by citizens. But hey, he is a black dude, he can say whatever the fuck he wants.
If the Eagles let Cooper go, I don’t think it will have anything to do with punishing him or taking a public stance on racism, all that stuff. It’s more likely they just don’t want to have a guy on the team that the other players on the roster can’t stand. More than two-thirds of the players in the NFL are African-American. Figure the Eagles are typical and you’re talking 60 black men in that locker room, the majority of whom no doubt have experienced racism many times in their lives. Putting Riley “I’ll fight all you niggers” Cooper in there with them isn’t exactly great for team chemistry.
If Cooper was some irreplaceable talent, maybe the organization pulls him aside, tells him not to be an asshole and hopes for the best. Cooper’s not irreplaceable, though, and the Eagles might decide that dealing with him just isn’t worth the trouble. End of the day, the Eagles are still running a business, and business is better when one of your employees hasn’t pissed off 70% of your work force.
[quote]dk44 wrote:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/02/dem-rep-says-the-tea-party-is-the-same-group-of-white-crackers-who-fought-to-keep-segregation/
I am sure Charlie Rangel will be in a sensitivity class soon. Oh and he isn’t a football player, he is an elected official. No worry about him losing his job, someone taking out his knee, taking time off for diversity classes. Nope just go about his business and being paid by citizens. But hey, he is a black dude, he can say whatever the fuck he wants. [/quote]
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Couple things:
Cooper probably wouldn’t even make the team if Maclin wasn’t hurt. It won’t be that big of a deal if he is released because that was a possibility even before the comment.
There has been a lot of talk condemning the NFL for not punishing Cooper after the eagles already did. There are clauses in the NFL PA contract that do not allow a player to be punished multiple times for the same incident. That’s why they aren’t doing anything, Philly is handling it like they should.
I’m shocked at how shocked people are by this. Do peoe really think Cooper is the only person in the NFL who is racist or has ever uttered a racial epithet? LOL NOT A CHANCE! No other cornfed Deep South white lineman has ever said the N word? No thug (see sagging pants) from the ghetto has ever said Cracker? Come on now. It doesn’t excuse his actions at all but I’m surprised people are shocked?
Does he deserve to be punished? 100% he does. Does he deserve to lose his job? No.
I’m not saying the guy was right, he made a stupid comment. What if a big name NFL star made a comment like this? Like a big name QB who has a big contract. Would he be treated the same way as Riley Cooper? I highly doubt that player would be excused from the team.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]jeanmich wrote:
Excused from team activities to have counselling, possibly released from team. A LOT of media appearence and public excuses. all that for calling a security guard at a concert a Nigger.
They all calm themselves nigga and stuff like that. Why does it matter so much when it’s a white athlete? I know he plays with a lot of african-american players (it’s the NFL lol) but man, to me it is really too much attention for nothing.[/quote]
They all call themselves nigga and stuff like that?
Wow.
…and “you people” really don’t see the problem with how you think.[/quote]
The punishment here doesn’t seem to fit the crime. You have guys getting dui’s and killing people in cars through bad decisions, but here yes a inappropriate thing was said. He was drunk, acting dumb, but fuck he didn’t kill anyone or off tons of animals cruelly. I’d fine his ass and make him apologize and be done with it. And let him know it would not be tolerated again.
N-word =/= cracker
I’m white and even I know the n-word has a more derogatory history than cracker. Doesn’t mean the latter should be used, it’s still offensive, but blacks as a minority were treated as second-grade humans back in the day, hence why the n-word carries greater emotional weight.
A lot of people in this thread have been trying to analyse racism rationally where blacks and whites shouldn’t use derogatory terms against each other, and amongst themselves. A perspective of that nature is what we should be aiming for but let’s not ignore history and reality, especially when making EX-POST analysis of certain incidents like this one.
If Mike Vick was recorded saying cracker at a Nelly concert, should he have received the same punishment as Cooper, bearing in mind n-word =/= cracker in emotional capacity? I think he should but that would be just for show. The real juror should be society, so if Vick had used that term, he should be frowned upon by his peers and the wider community. Like some posters have stated, words like the n-word and cracker don’t belong in our conversational dictionary. When Charlie Rangel used cracker to describe the tea party his political career should have been de-legitimised at that moment. I think Rangel has been “punished”, albeit quietly and obviously to some peoples disdain, through loss of relevancy over time (not just from that particular instance), which is probably the most severe punishment for a politician. The fact a black men like Rangel have said cracker publicly and have only been silently admonished, shouldn’t be an argument against punishment for a white man using the n-word, and vice versa. The reason being Cooper wasn’t thinking about the double standard that exists and Charlie Rangel or whoever else, when he said what he said.
[quote]jeanmich wrote:
Excused from team activities to have counselling, possibly released from team. A LOT of media appearence and public excuses. all that for calling a security guard at a concert a Nigger.
They all calm themselves nigga and stuff like that. Why does it matter so much when it’s a white athlete? I know he plays with a lot of african-american players (it’s the NFL lol) but man, to me it is really too much attention for nothing.[/quote]
Other than when Chapelle’s show came out withClayton sketch, I cant ever remember a time when me, my friends, or anyone in my family has said nigger or nigger.
You know many black people?
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
N-word =/= cracker
I’m white and even I know the n-word has a more derogatory history than cracker. Doesn’t mean the latter should be used, it’s still offensive, but blacks as a minority were treated as second-grade humans back in the day, hence why the n-word carries greater emotional weight.
A lot of people in this thread have been trying to analyse racism rationally where blacks and whites shouldn’t use derogatory terms against each other, and amongst themselves. A perspective of that nature is what we should be aiming for but let’s not ignore history and reality, especially when making EX-POST analysis of certain incidents like this one.
If Mike Vick was recorded saying cracker at a Nelly concert, should he have received the same punishment as Cooper, bearing in mind n-word =/= cracker in emotional capacity? I think he should but that would be just for show. The real juror should be society, so if Vick had used that term, he should be frowned upon by his peers and the wider community. Like some posters have stated, words like the n-word and cracker don’t belong in our conversational dictionary. When Charlie Rangel used cracker to describe the tea party his political career should have been de-legitimised at that moment. I think Rangel has been “punished”, albeit quietly and obviously to some peoples disdain, through loss of relevancy over time (not just from that particular instance), which is probably the most severe punishment for a politician. The fact a black men like Rangel have said cracker publicly and have only been silently admonished, shouldn’t be an argument against punishment for a white man using the n-word, and vice versa. The reason being Cooper wasn’t thinking about the double standard that exists and Charlie Rangel or whoever else, when he said what he said.[/quote]
What a crock of shit. “emotional capacity”. You ever been called cracker by a black cop at a car accident where you got hit by someone else in a town that is 70% black and you are the minority?
Hell, what about AC getting called cracker while having his life stomped out of him?
Nor does this address the fact that black can, and some do, use the same racial slurs against blacks with the same hateful racist intent.
Congratulations, you are the “separate but equal” supporter of this generation.
You need to go respond to AC’s post in the Zimmerman thread and tell him “cracker” doesn’t have the same emotional capacity.
[quote]vermilion wrote:
If the Eagles let Cooper go, I don’t think it will have anything to do with punishing him or taking a public stance on racism, all that stuff. It’s more likely they just don’t want to have a guy on the team that the other players on the roster can’t stand. More than two-thirds of the players in the NFL are African-American. Figure the Eagles are typical and you’re talking 60 black men in that locker room, the majority of whom no doubt have experienced racism many times in their lives. Putting Riley “I’ll fight all you niggers” Cooper in there with them isn’t exactly great for team chemistry.
If Cooper was some irreplaceable talent, maybe the organization pulls him aside, tells him not to be an asshole and hopes for the best. Cooper’s not irreplaceable, though, and the Eagles might decide that dealing with him just isn’t worth the trouble. End of the day, the Eagles are still running a business, and business is better when one of your employees hasn’t pissed off 70% of your work force.
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I think it would be great for team chemistry, shit at least everyone hates Riley!
Cracker ass cracka!
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
N-word =/= cracker
I’m white and even I know the n-word has a more derogatory history than cracker. Doesn’t mean the latter should be used, it’s still offensive, but blacks as a minority were treated as second-grade humans back in the day, hence why the n-word carries greater emotional weight.
A lot of people in this thread have been trying to analyse racism rationally where blacks and whites shouldn’t use derogatory terms against each other, and amongst themselves. A perspective of that nature is what we should be aiming for but let’s not ignore history and reality, especially when making EX-POST analysis of certain incidents like this one.
If Mike Vick was recorded saying cracker at a Nelly concert, should he have received the same punishment as Cooper, bearing in mind n-word =/= cracker in emotional capacity? I think he should but that would be just for show. The real juror should be society, so if Vick had used that term, he should be frowned upon by his peers and the wider community. Like some posters have stated, words like the n-word and cracker don’t belong in our conversational dictionary. When Charlie Rangel used cracker to describe the tea party his political career should have been de-legitimised at that moment. I think Rangel has been “punished”, albeit quietly and obviously to some peoples disdain, through loss of relevancy over time (not just from that particular instance), which is probably the most severe punishment for a politician. The fact a black men like Rangel have said cracker publicly and have only been silently admonished, shouldn’t be an argument against punishment for a white man using the n-word, and vice versa. The reason being Cooper wasn’t thinking about the double standard that exists and Charlie Rangel or whoever else, when he said what he said.[/quote]
What a crock of shit. “emotional capacity”. You ever been called cracker by a black cop at a car accident where you got hit by someone else in a town that is 70% black and you are the minority?
Hell, what about AC getting called cracker while having his life stomped out of him?
Nor does this address the fact that black can, and some do, use the same racial slurs against blacks with the same hateful racist intent.
Congratulations, you are the “separate but equal” supporter of this generation.
You need to go respond to AC’s post in the Zimmerman thread and tell him “cracker” doesn’t have the same emotional capacity.[/quote]
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[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Claudan wrote:
Giving this a second thought in a more dissociated state, this guy is just straight up embarrassing.
I wonder if a majority of non-caucasians believe that white people are racist? is that like a thing?
I got 100% polish blood in me, and not because it necessarily describes me, but I know my people are very… nationalistic. To be fair, we try not to like anyone, equally
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Good gawd, you are a goofy lookin bastard making a bunch of goofy ass comments on subjects you are clueless about.
You goofy ding dong bastard.[/quote]
Thank God I’m not the only one who appeared to notice this.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Claudan wrote:
Giving this a second thought in a more dissociated state, this guy is just straight up embarrassing.
I wonder if a majority of non-caucasians believe that white people are racist? is that like a thing?
I got 100% polish blood in me, and not because it necessarily describes me, but I know my people are very… nationalistic. To be fair, we try not to like anyone, equally
[/quote]
Good gawd, you are a goofy lookin bastard making a bunch of goofy ass comments on subjects you are clueless about.
You goofy ding dong bastard.[/quote]
Thank God I’m not the only one who appeared to notice this.
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I think I know where the “screen door on a submarine” thing comes from now.