Riding the Line Between BBing & PLing

[quote]tuchavito wrote:
damn it, this thread is just great, definitely will follow.

man your trainings are ridiculous.[/quote]

thanks man… i’m just glad people are interested.

[quote]WRPL wrote:
Hey meat,
Ive been lurking your log for a while now, and I just wanna say that you are one strong motherfucker!
Im only in highschool, but have future aspirations to compete in PLing; Your log and attitude towards training yourself and helping others is inspiring.
GL with loosing all your weight, ill be reading your log every step of the way.

WRPL[/quote]

thanks.

great… we need more good powerlifters.

i’m happy to help anyone that has an interest in the iron.

good… you can keep me honest:)

Hay meat. Been following your log and its an inspiration to lift big and train hard!

Quick question about the pause squats… do you let the weight rest on the pins or do you hold it on your back? Also is there a big difference between these and box squats?

Keep it up mate!

[quote]sherro wrote:
Hay meat. Been following your log and its an inspiration to lift big and train hard!

Quick question about the pause squats… do you let the weight rest on the pins or do you hold it on your back? Also is there a big difference between these and box squats?

Keep it up mate![/quote]

thanks man!!

with this particular variation, i only tap the pins but keep the entire load on my body. i have done pause squats where i totally unload on the pins. both have their place in a good program.

i’ve done box squats in the past, but find it easy to let your form go to crap sitting on a box. most poeple i see doing box squats do this sort of sit down and then rock forward thing to get off.

obviously that isn’t going to convey well to an actual squat. if you are a raw squatter, IMO, squatting to pins will transfer better to your normal squat better than squatting to a box. now… if you are only touching the box to determine depth, then i like the box squat for a raw squatter. if you are actually sitting on the box…not so much. plus i like the pins for safety over a box anyday.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
sherro wrote:
Hay meat. Been following your log and its an inspiration to lift big and train hard!

Quick question about the pause squats… do you let the weight rest on the pins or do you hold it on your back? Also is there a big difference between these and box squats?

Keep it up mate!

thanks man!!

with this particular variation, i only tap the pins but keep the entire load on my body. i have done pause squats where i totally unload on the pins. both have their place in a good program.

i’ve done box squats in the past, but find it easy to let your form go to crap sitting on a box. most poeple i see doing box squats do this sort of sit down and then rock forward thing to get off. obviously that isn’t going to convey well to an actual squat. if you are a raw squatter, IMO, squatting to pins will transfer better to your normal squat better than squatting to a box.

now… if you are only touching the box to determine depth, then i like the box squat for a raw squatter. if you are actually sitting on the box…not so much. plus i like the pins for safety over a box anyday.

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Thanks mate! Once again you prove you are a great source of knowledge. I’m currently doing the Westside for Fat Bastards plan. Would you say pause squats would work better as the max squat exercise or as a rep exercise?

Is the meet you are doing next month going to be local? I’d love to come watch if I could!

[quote]sherro wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
sherro wrote:
Hay meat. Been following your log and its an inspiration to lift big and train hard!

Quick question about the pause squats… do you let the weight rest on the pins or do you hold it on your back? Also is there a big difference between these and box squats?

Keep it up mate!

thanks man!!

with this particular variation, i only tap the pins but keep the entire load on my body. i have done pause squats where i totally unload on the pins. both have their place in a good program.

i’ve done box squats in the past, but find it easy to let your form go to crap sitting on a box. most poeple i see doing box squats do this sort of sit down and then rock forward thing to get off. obviously that isn’t going to convey well to an actual squat. if you are a raw squatter, IMO, squatting to pins will transfer better to your normal squat better than squatting to a box.

now… if you are only touching the box to determine depth, then i like the box squat for a raw squatter. if you are actually sitting on the box…not so much. plus i like the pins for safety over a box anyday.

Thanks mate! Once again you prove you are a great source of knowledge. I’m currently doing the Westside for Fat Bastards plan. Would you say pause squats would work better as the max squat exercise or as a rep exercise?
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definitely ME.

thanks.

[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
Is the meet you are doing next month going to be local? I’d love to come watch if I could!

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thanks:) unfortunately it’s an 8 hour drive down to TN. that drive is never fun.

262 lbs?! Starting to look svelte and built for speed Boss! Nice work… you weigh less than me now… I have seen more meat on a sparrow’s instep!

Just kidding buddy. I too am down to 270 again, just eating cleaner.

What weight you lookin" at pushing at the meet? How’s the injury feelin’?

Putting in work as usual meat! Loving the C_C commentary.:smiley:

maraudermeat shutting up YouTube key board warriors since January 14, 2008

Thanks again meat!

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
mom-in-MD wrote:
Is the meet you are doing next month going to be local? I’d love to come watch if I could!

thanks:) unfortunately it’s an 8 hour drive down to TN. that drive is never fun.
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Coming to my home state eh? :wink:

Hey meat,
just a quick question:
I am now currently in season for football, so unfortunately that means that regardless the amount of food and rest I get, I am often finding myself without energy :frowning:

anyways, although I know lots of different variations of the big 3 and the different muscles they work, what I don’t have is experience… SO
In your experience what are good exercises I can do that will still help with strength gains that are less taxing on the body?

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
sherro wrote:
Hay meat. Been following your log and its an inspiration to lift big and train hard!

Quick question about the pause squats… do you let the weight rest on the pins or do you hold it on your back? Also is there a big difference between these and box squats?

Keep it up mate!

thanks man!!

with this particular variation, i only tap the pins but keep the entire load on my body. i have done pause squats where i totally unload on the pins. both have their place in a good program.

i’ve done box squats in the past, but find it easy to let your form go to crap sitting on a box. most poeple i see doing box squats do this sort of sit down and then rock forward thing to get off.

obviously that isn’t going to convey well to an actual squat. if you are a raw squatter, IMO, squatting to pins will transfer better to your normal squat better than squatting to a box. now… if you are only touching the box to determine depth, then i like the box squat for a raw squatter. if you are actually sitting on the box…not so much. plus i like the pins for safety over a box anyday.

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I really appreciate this advice.

[quote]sluicy wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
sherro wrote:
Hay meat. Been following your log and its an inspiration to lift big and train hard!

Quick question about the pause squats… do you let the weight rest on the pins or do you hold it on your back? Also is there a big difference between these and box squats?

Keep it up mate!

thanks man!!

with this particular variation, i only tap the pins but keep the entire load on my body. i have done pause squats where i totally unload on the pins. both have their place in a good program.

i’ve done box squats in the past, but find it easy to let your form go to crap sitting on a box. most poeple i see doing box squats do this sort of sit down and then rock forward thing to get off.

obviously that isn’t going to convey well to an actual squat. if you are a raw squatter, IMO, squatting to pins will transfer better to your normal squat better than squatting to a box. now… if you are only touching the box to determine depth, then i like the box squat for a raw squatter. if you are actually sitting on the box…not so much. plus i like the pins for safety over a box anyday.

I really appreciate this advice. [/quote]

i appreciate hotties appreciating my advice:)

[quote]WRPL wrote:
Hey meat,
just a quick question:
I am now currently in season for football, so unfortunately that means that regardless the amount of food and rest I get, I am often finding myself without energy :frowning:

anyways, although I know lots of different variations of the big 3 and the different muscles they work, what I don’t have is experience… SO
In your experience what are good exercises I can do that will still help with strength gains that are less taxing on the body? [/quote]

i’ve found that you don’t need to training (necessarily) in the 90% range to get stronger. hit your variations in the 80-85% range with a moderate rep scheme of 6-10 reps. also, slow the tempo on the eccentric, incorporate pauses during the isometric phases of the lift (these are the lockout and full stretch position, such as at the chest during a bench) and increase bar speed during the concentric phase. don’t mess with slow concentrics… those are for pink dumbell swinging kickbacks:)

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
mom-in-MD wrote:
Is the meet you are doing next month going to be local? I’d love to come watch if I could!

thanks:) unfortunately it’s an 8 hour drive down to TN. that drive is never fun.

Coming to my home state eh? ;)[/quote]

i’ve been down there a few times. it’s one hell of a boring drive.

[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
WRPL wrote:
Hey meat,
just a quick question:
I am now currently in season for football, so unfortunately that means that regardless the amount of food and rest I get, I am often finding myself without energy :frowning:

anyways, although I know lots of different variations of the big 3 and the different muscles they work, what I don’t have is experience… SO
In your experience what are good exercises I can do that will still help with strength gains that are less taxing on the body?

i’ve found that you don’t need to training (necessarily) in the 90% range to get stronger. hit your variations in the 80-85% range with a moderate rep scheme of 6-10 reps. also, slow the tempo on the eccentric, incorporate pauses during the isometric phases of the lift (these are the lockout and full stretch position, such as at the chest during a bench) and increase bar speed during the concentric phase. don’t mess with slow concentrics… those are for pink dumbell swinging kickbacks:)

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thanks meat, just to clarify, do I need to be going to failure in the 80-85% range, or can I still see strength gains without? Id prefer not to, as tackling 3 hrs a day is extremely taxing on the body as is.

noth’n special… accessory night

seated overhead press off pins
0x10
135x6
225x6
315x6

bent over one arm lateral raises
30’s x 10
50’s x 10
70’s x 10
drop set
70’s x 10, 50’s x 10, 30’s x 10

circuit
hammer strength preacher curl (one arm at a time)- standing calf raise- seated calf raise

  • i did one arm, then standing calf, then the other arm, and finally seated calf raises

hammer strength preacher curl

2plates x 20 x 5

standing calf

stack x 20 x 5

seated calf

3plates x 20 x 5

nothing heavy tonight… just wanted to get some blood flow’n

bodyweight 266- had a cheat meal yesterday that bloated me a bit.

Whoah! Musta had a good pump goin’ after this session!