Right.
But can you see why people may file that along side of Chesterfields ™ The doctor recommended cigarettes!
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It sounds like you’re against challenging orthodoxy even when the orthodoxy is lacking evidence and data, though. Perhaps I’m wrong here, but that is the problem I have with your responses.
Covid was much this way “we have evidence that says these things are good” but then when you see they actually lack evidence in many of those areas, you are dogpiled and excommunicated for saying their conclusion has holes in it.
Cigarette companies knew their product was causing harm. No one has actually shown that for these adjuvants, and the benefits of childhood vaccination are massive. You can believe this or not, but I don’t have the time or desire to argue it here.
Oh, come on now. You whipped it out. Don’t be shy now that its size is being called into question.
And what did they do with that info for how long? 50? 70 years?
It took an act of congress to get that admission.
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Very key as time moves forward pharma’s power becomes more concentrated and choice dwindles. In the past is different than in the present where profits are the primary goal, not health or choice.
It is mainly an anti-parasitic drug with other applications A recent example Ivermectin for Cancer in Humans: Understanding the Dosage and Potential Benefits - TechBullion
It is not the derogatory drug that it’s often made out to be.
How much of this was due to a better living environment, hygiene?
Lots of stuff done during Covid did not stand up to examination. They closed all the parks here, in part due to a faulty theory of how it was spread.
But mRNA vaccines were a remarkable step forward. If told the death rate from Covid was almost three times as high in the US than Canada, are there reasons why this was so? Maybe maple syrup is protective, or few tourists want to go to Winnipeg?
A lot of the change in life expectancy was due better birthing practices, including hygiene, and other things to reduce childhood morbidity.
“comorbidities”
“obesity”
“average age of death”
For real, bro? fuck out of here.
I actually do believe that. My son is fully up to date on all vaccinations.
And I’m a tad artistic myself, and have my own opinions on what it is.
But I don’t like mandates or people closing routes of investigation.
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I actually agree with you on both those points. Things should be studied, and personal freedom is important.
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Including its creation.
Little known fact: my one niece works in biotech on research and application with
Mrna proteins.
Brilliant little bugger, she is.
Regarding rates, for real.
Click one tab, Canada is better; click the other tab, US is better; depends on the “message” desired:
Check this chart out. China only had 4 deaths per million population!!!
Statistics…you know the old cliche, right?
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And my last link, because I hate propaganda; remember Sweden being villified for their awful, awful approach to the pandemic?
The Swedish COVID-19 approach: a scientific dialogue on mitigation policies - PMC.
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Not really. What your chart shows is that in both Canada and the US, a similar percentage (about 1%) of people who got Covid died. So it is a rough measure of how good medical systems are, especially for very ill patients. It says nothing about the number of deaths (per capita), or how many people got the early forms of Covid more likely to cause harm or kill people.
As your article says above the first graph:
Countries at the top of this figure have the most deaths proportionally to their COVID-19 cases or population, not necessarily the most deaths overall.
Deaths were much higher in the US since more people got severe forms of Covid. The reasons why are worth examining. There are likely many reasons - but social distancing, masks and vaccines are among them. Medical care and access to care are factors - but your graph implies that these were fairly similar for Canada and the US. I’m sure there are other things too.
As for Sweden, absolutely it should be studied whether lockdown was helpful, since this is such a huge imposition. I certainly have my doubts about school and gym closures. But Sweden is a homogenous population generally inclined to wear masks and get vaccinated. Lots of the policies - medical, political and economic - from COVID were, in retrospect, probably unhelpful or not worth the trouble. Since there will be other epidemics (most don’t affect enough people to make the papers, although SARS did in Toronto. Covid was the fifth epidemic in Canada since 2000.)
As the NY Times said this morning:
There’s no better place to start than with public health. Two centuries back, when infectious disease outbreaks still routinely devastated the nation’s most populous cities, the practices needed to protect the health of whole communities were an accepted (occasionally celebrated) part of the social contract. But public health has long since fallen victim to its own success: As plagues receded and life expectancy rose, support for the initiatives that made those achievements possible waned. And as clinical medicine improved, health itself became a matter for individuals, not for society at large.
Since the turn of the previous century, the national approach to public health has been governed by a cycle that experts refer to as neglect, panic, repeat. Elected officials ignore the nation’s public health apparatus — they starve it of funding and isolate it from the larger, more stable health care system — until a crisis or panic of some kind emerges. Then they flood that apparatus with resources, and a mad scramble begins not only to resolve the current crisis, but also to repair the many flagging structures most essential to that effort. Public health experts like to call this building the plane while flying the plane.
Then, when the crisis abates, the neglect resumes.
Nearly five years out from the beginning of Covid, the most substantial and straining turn of this cycle, its central and most damning paradox is clear: The nation’s public health apparatus is reliant on panic and outrage as a tool for addressing basic problems. But the nation itself is spent from so much panic and outrage.
…But sounding an alarm (or sending up a bat signal, if you prefer that image) is always a choice. And it’s one that reflects nothing so much as our own values and fears.
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There is no worse data integrity than data collected concerning Covid. Only a person with no understanding of Measurement System Analysis would feel confident making any conclusions from Covid data.
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No statistician would trust the Covid numbers provided by the government of China (among others). There are certainly errors involved in measuring these statistics, however they can be taken into account and even quantified. The usual approach is to compare actual to unexpected numbers of deaths. The biggest problem is not this approach as such, but that governments or hospitals might be incentivized to report lower numbers for political reasons to hide culpability or promote nationalism.
Or more likely, Americans should question why their fat asses can’t put the fork down. You can’t simply blame modern medicine for being unhealthy. How many Americans are looking forward to literally stuffing themselves to the point they’ll need to unbutton their pants on Thanksgiving? It’s as if they haven’t been stuffing themselves the rest of the year. And this is the problem when it comes to RFK’s rhetoric; people want the freedom to be unhealthy and will, to paraphrase Charlton Heston, dare you to take that Quarter Pounder or soda from their cold dead hands.
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Or any where else in the world. For Covid data to be used to draw statistical conclusions the data must be collected from “the same calibrated gauge.”
Every country and every data collection area must collect data by the same method and same parameters and criteria.
From your statement you have no idea what Measurement System Analysis entails, but you are well qualified to work for the mainstream media.
Do you have any statistics training AT ALL?
When anyone wants to draw statistical conclusions from data, I have a very high bar that must be met when others mention statistics to make a point.