I’d be mad as hell if somebody said some SHIT to my mom
At the time when I followed PC on Instagram, I regularly saw free attacks on CT (neurotypes, 100rep leg press, Best Damn, …)
@RampantBadger @jibb He was ripping on CT with some nasty remarks on his blog long before they worked together.
I wonder if he and Lyle McDonald deal with people like this in real life. About ten years ago Lyle McDonald insulted me on my FB wall in a thread in which I was speaking to family members… out of nowhere!
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Yeah that is kinda weird…his personal life shouldn’t take priority over his paying clients.
The evening of the day it happened she said that while she knew she should ignore it, it did kinda hurt her. It’s been a couple days now and she said she’s still annoyed if she thinks about it, but she’s got better things to worry about. She’ll be fine.
Thank you!
I don’t know for sure that they broke up, but after doing some Instagram stalking it looks like they deleted pictures of each and stopped following each other, so I’m assuming that they did.
Yeah, that’s the thing. I was the one who communicated with him first, and paid him, and he was always very friendly to me. One of my three payments also didn’t go through because I got paid on a Monday that was a holiday and while he was slow about replying to her, I heard from him super quick when he didn’t get his money, haha.
He didn’t full out say it, but basically called her fat. That’s not a huge deal, but since he doesn’t know her or anything about her, I feel like that was uncalled for. Plus, she’s obviously trying to lose weight. I think tough love works for some people, but not everyone, and you probably shouldn’t use it over the internet when you don’t know the person AT ALL.
He also called her an excuse maker, which is what bothered both of us. In all of her emails to both the nutritionist and Paul, she never once made an excuse, complained, made any remarks on progess she had or hadn’t made, etc. She was doing both the diet and the training program, and was just fine with the results. The only thing she said was “Hey, can we improve communication?” No excuses whatsoever.
He told her she’d never lose a pound, she’d never accomplish anything, all of their issues were entirely due to her (I think his words were “It’s not me.”) and after she took 36 hours to calm down before replying to say that she no longer wanted to continue the trainer/client relationship, rather than just say “okay” he attacked her, and ended it with saying "I can tell you’re the type who needs the last word…so go ahead 
"…after he had literally just tried to have the last word. She didn’t reply.
Since he doesn’t know her and apparently is just a crappy dude, I wasn’t super upset, but definitely annoyed.
I don’t get this. Out of the three coaches on T-Nation, CT is probably the nicest/most patient. So what if you disagree with him? I’ve never heard CT say anything bad about PC, and while I’m skeptical of neurotypes, there’s sooo many other coaches who are way worse than CT (who I don’t think is bad, he’s just not for everyone).
I think I would’ve used to say Wendler was the “meanest” of the three but I still get the vibe from him that he wants to help people improve their lives and really cares about what he does. Carter pretty much entirely comes across as an asshole now.
Oh well. Both I and my mom are pretty much over it. I guess it’s a lesson I can learn from, and will maybe serve as fuel for my mom.
Last thing: his (ex?) girlfriend’s diet wasn’t even that good. It was literally pretty much just plain chicken and rice, or turkey and rice, and protein shakes, every single meal. I did it for the first week to support my mom, and lost like 13 pounds, but hated it. Maybe when you’re trying to diet it’s important to get really strict at first to build good habits but it was expensive and (in my opinion) unsustainable. I don’t think food should be people’s main source of pleasure, but I also don’t think that for the average person with average goals, it’s wrong to at least sometimes enjoy what you’re eating. Especially in small Midwest town with 6 month long winters, haha. Eating is our number one form of socializing.
And Paul’s program was weird too. It was basically alternating 2 different push & back days with 2 different biceps & leg days. Kind of an odd split. Her leg days were always a hamstring movement, a squatting movement, and then a single leg movement, which is fine, but they were always proceeded by 2 different types of curls. It just seems weird to have a mom in her late 30’s who just wants to feel and look decent do 4 different types of curls and 6 different leg movements. I think 6 leg movements is just fine, but it makes the number of curls seem weird.
And the sets/rep scheme never changed, no matter the movement. He wanted her to go to failure on hack squats and incline bench. OK, fine. But also hit failure (at 6-8 reps) on rear belt raises, curls, laterals, and skullcrushers? I feel like for most people, just doing a couple sets and getting a pump on those kinds of movements would serve them better. Her joints always ached.
It felt like he just threw some things together with no significant amount of thought as to who the client was and what her goals were. She did the program, since he’s the expert, but it was her least favorite type of lifting she’s done yet.
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I feel like I need to say this because it’s too hilarious. Carter can say all he wants about CT now, maybe because they had an argument privately and now CT is added to Paul’s dick clown list, but in an email exchange I had with Carter when we were wrapping up my training period with him, he told me that he was working on a project that inlved neurotypes. I didn’t ask for the specifics, but I remember him talking about it in instagram lives too, in which he said that he was “definitely a type 2b.” So he’s inconsistent at best (if he changed his mind), and straight up scamming people at worst (if he always thought they were stupid but initially pretended not to for the $$$). I didn’t want to say this but I kept seeing posts about him attacking CT so I thought I’d share.
I’m glad I don’t have anything to do with him anymore.
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I think neurotypes are probably real - I mean they just describe your personality basically, right? I just don’t think people should need to be told their type in order to lift weights.
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As of last night, I feel very achy and have a small cough.
Could be allergies, the flu, or…you know. We’ll see.
However I do not think it bothered him that CT gives him visibility in some podcast and book …
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Sounds like the guy puts hardly any effort into what he does. Same for the diet. The client should not hate all the meals or workouts. They can be hard, but if you hate every minute, it isn’t typically going to last.
I work with a PL coach. Some stuff is really good, some stuff I hate. If I hate an exercise, but need improvement, he will find something I like, that achieves similar goals.
As far as diet, I am all about small changes. If I can give up (or reduce by 80%) drinks with calories for example, and get a few pounds of weight loss, why would I not take that action. I can probably stick with that change too. Maybe next is fried food. I can probably stick with that if it is the only change at the time. Keep implementing changes like this over time and pretty soon you have someone eating healthy in a sustainable way.
I think coaches want to provide a 180 degree turn to get fast results, and prove they were worth the money, but if their clients can’t stick with it they end up feeling bad about themselves when they shouldn’t as almost everybody eventually falls off of chicken, rice and broccoli 3X a day diet. Long term is the way to go.
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I want to respond as you seem like you are in a pretty low place right now (not sure if you are still active as your account appears inactive).
I didn’t think I was smart for a long time. I was in special education for English in middle and early high school. I learned that that those thoughts were not true. I do have focus issues (ADHD, and was medicated as a elementary school kid until my mom got scared about the meds). What that meant is I need to be interested in what I am learning.
It sounds like you got into some schools, and that your time was not wasted. I spent three years at community college, then went to a big university later on as a transfer student.
I am sorry about this, but corona will end. Just try to stay positive, and interact online if you can.
I remember having a discussion with you about our autistic brothers. I hope things are better on that front as well. Keep your head up. Things can change a lot.
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Fitness coaching and SM influencing are money-making avenues for some otherwise unemployable and anti-social people and people who “live in their own head”, a trait of unemployable people and those who don’t work or socialize well with others. Did you ever notice that with such people that with their hundreds or thousands of picture posts, they’re seldom shown with groups of other people? Not that one has to show this, and some keep their social ties out of accounts, but I find that one never finds the odd photo with groups of like minded people or friends.
I just turned in my second paper for my Intl. Relations class. This was our prompt:
What are the major principles of the major theories discussed in Theories of International Politics and Zombies? This includes realism, liberalism, neo-conservatism, social construction, domestic politics, and bureaucratic politics. In particular you should consider each theory’s view of the nature of conflict, for example, what causes nations to engage in violence (assuming there is such a theory), and how the theory envisions resolving that conflict. Which theory do you find the most convincing and why?
Our book was the above ^ by Dan Drezner. My professor noted when he sent this out that it was scary how relevent the book turned out to be. It discusses how each type of government would react to a zombie outbreak, so not exactly what we’re dealing with right now, but kinda sorta similar. Countries are behaving almost exactly as predicted. Just thought I’d mention it - I don’t think the book would be up your alley but as a pol. sci. guy maybe you’d find the coincidence of it all amusing.
(My final answer was that I’d prefer for liberalism to be my favorite, but due to lack of trust in humans to do the right thing I think realism will have to win for now.)
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Man, frightening that they would have you read that academically, haha. Sounds like a fun read though, akin to the “BLANK and philosophy” series (DnD and Philosophy, Simpsons and Philosophy, etc).
Your conclusion sounds about right. I have said that, for me, I wish for libertarianism but, for everyone else, I wish for tyranny. Be curious to see if your views on humanity shift any in studying politics. It’s a helpful way to frame things.
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Would you have any recommendations towards good, quick reads along those lines? Got a bit of spare time on my hands these days.
Politics or philosophy wise?
Let’s go politics, I think I’ve spent enough of my life being wilfully ignorant to the finer details of the different beliefs.
No real good quick reads I can speak to. Everything I read in undergrad was a slog, haha.
For a quickish read on one of the founders of realism, “The Prince” remains a classic.
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Haha fair enough. Thanks for the suggestion, I’ll check it out.
We’ve read plenty of “normal” things. We did read The Prince, a bunch of Greek stuff, etc. I think my professor just tries to find ways to add things that might actually be enjoyable for most people too. I wouldn’t say this was “fun” but it certainly was a change of pace.
Do you have any experience with logic? (Propositional proofs.) Out of all my classes that have now gone online that is the only one causing me to struggle. I liken it to math, where once you get the concepts, you can figure out the problems, but also like math, I’m terrible at getting it online.
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I took a course on formal logic in Undergrad. I enjoyed it, but it’s also frustrating when you realize that most folks don’t care if things are logical, haha. But, in that regard, it’s worth appreciating the fallacy fallacy.
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