I don’t expect anything to ever apply to everyone. I know this has been brought up before, and sometimes in aggressive ways, but let’s remember that you are not a parent. Neither am I. We’re both young. So our ideas aren’t necessarily right (also not necessarily wrong!) and will probably change throughout our lives. Point is, we don’t really know what’s best for kids, haha. Let alone every single kid.
I do. I was expelled from high school, which is a long story, but I think had I kept my attitude in check I would’ve just been suspended for a while. And after speaking to a lawyer, he decided that I would have had a legitimate case for suing the school, with all the evidence being on my side, until I opened my mouth and gotten disrespectful. You don’t necessarily need to agree with people - I sure as hell don’t. I work a few jobs and half of my bosses are literal idiots.
Because fighting back or being rude to them would’ve gotten me fired a long time ago. I accept them for they are, do the best I can do, and in my case, sometimes realize that I’m going to go on to do better things than whatever they’ve done. You don’t need to like authority - I really don’t, or agree with them. But the people I see who never learn to at least get along with it seem to struggle their entire lives.
It’s a dumb rule, for sure, but you got in trouble, didn’t you? It’s dumb to say you shouldn’t call someone but also, how hard would it have been to not call? To wait a few hours until school was out to call someone? You know? You gotta pick and choose your battles. A lotta rules are stupid but if you suffer from breaking them when you wouldn’t have suffered for not breaking them, you might need to change your way of thinking.
I’m actually quite familiar with this. Most of the kids I grew up with are in prison or have been in and out of jail. A cousin of mine whom I’m very close to has literally spent his entire life in trouble. He has some F.A.S., so I’m not entirely sure how in control of everything he is, but he would get sent to time out at home, detention at school, the juvie, then jail, of which he’s been in and out of for the past couple years. None of it made a difference. He did go to bootcamp for a summer, and for a long time afterwards, was a different person. Lot more disciplined, more on top of his responsibilities, didn’t question low level authority (teachers, etc.). It wore off, but it helped him for a while.
Absolutely agree. Me too.
Again, I agree, but I’m seeing this less and less. People are not forced to ever grow up as much as they used to. I heard someone who’s around 50 say that when he was a kid, you were a kid, then you were an adult. Then they came up with adolescence (the teen years). Now they have emerging adolescence, which lasts from about 20-30. It takes 30 years for people to become adults, whereas before they’d better be ready for adult responsibilities at like, what, 15-20?
This isn’t what I’m talking about. Kids don’t really need their own space in everything from their parents, but parents also shouldn’t be too overbearing. I don’t think it’s that hard to find a middle ground. And I’ve played a big role in raising my younger siblings. But there’s a difference between a helicopter parent who watches your every move for 18 years and spending 2 years serving your country as a young adult before you go out into the world.
Many do, but I’d argue not the majority. I know an obviously small number, but wide variety of kids. Most, regardless of who they are, don’t do volunteer work, protest, or support their families. I do all 3 and still feel military service would be good.
I think being responsible for men around you would wipe out a bit of selfishness.
Look, we disagree, and that’s fine. My post is getting way too long and if I posted it in the original thread, it’d be a huge turn away from the original topic.
I really do believe that a fair amount of the things they did “back in the old days” was better, and part of that was less of a focus on the individual, and more of a focus on serving others. Some cultures still do this, the U.S. and Australia do now. People going through their teen years are a little different - it’s definitely a change, but I think teens are babied too much. 2 years serving their country would hardly harm most people. I mean, don’t the Swiss do it? They’re not powerful or anything but I wouldn’t say that their people are suffering, by any means.