Investing in a good training book like you did will go a long way, especially when you are just starting out. Keep up the diet and I’m sure there will be progress the next time you post pics be it 6 or even 12 months down the road. Here’s a virtual (and sincere) pat on the back for what its’ worth.
Thanks, Ipsum. I really do appreciate the pat on the back. Its nice to have some confirmation that Im headed in the right direction.
Im starting Cosgrove’s Hypertrophy 1 program tomorrow.
Ill keep updating this with my progress.
[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
Heres the more recent picture.
I would like to add that Im probably the ugliest guy on this site, second only to DieselWeasel.[/quote]
It’s interesting how you feel the need to randomly insult me.
2 things that strike me odd with your training and nutrition.
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You said in an earlier post that your strenght levels are in the 300’s for deadlift and thereabouts for squats, but you did not mention for bench, ohp or chins. Why?
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You do not mention how much protein are you consuming on a day to day basis.
From this I think that it would serve you to either increase the meat, fish or fowl consumption drastically and at the same time focus on some early morning cardio to keep yourself within an acceptable (for you) level of bodyfat. You will have to increase bodyfat somewhat to increase muscle if you are doing it naturally. It is just the name of the game.
What seems easier would be to just add a protein shake to each meal you consume and drink the protein plus the meals you have outlined. Be careful of the sausages and other processed meats which may contain little to no digestable protein. Try to consume most of your carbs early.
While you work out at night try drinking some whey with sugar during workout additonally with your post-workout drink.
As for your training you are better just paying attention to a super concentrated workout. If you like low reps 5x5 is a proven schedule. 3 days per week:
Full Squat
Bench/OHP
Deadlift/Chins
Exchange bench and deadlift on wednesdays workouts and try to go as heavy as you can on mondays. Friday try to get a heavy triple.
If you need some assistanc ex. you can add some Rows and dips and 2 sets of weighted abs or hypers. But try not to add them until you are on the 300 bench - 400 squat and 500 deadlift.
Eat like there is no tomorrow. Sleep and repeat. Do this for 3 or 4 years straight and don’t change the program during this time.
Hope this helps
[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
fightingtiger wrote:
Heres the more recent picture.
I would like to add that Im probably the ugliest guy on this site, second only to DieselWeasel.
It’s interesting how you feel the need to randomly insult me.[/quote]
damn getin big!
Diesel, that was just a joke, I mentioned this in a later post and also mentioned the fact that I look up to you greatly for the things you have accomplished. It was just a joke, no offense was intended.
I did mention my current max for bench. Its 205. Not very good, I know. I dont have a weighted dip belt, but I can do 15-18 consecutive bodyweight dips and about 8 or 9 bodyweight chins.
I am eating between 200 and 250 grams of protein daily.
I looked at 5x5, but I dont think I would enjoy it much. I did low reps all last semester and I dont wont go do it again. I am going to start Cosgrove’s Hypertrophy 1 program today. Its a 2 day upper/lower split based entirely around compound movements.
[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
I did mention my current max for bench. Its 205. Not very good, I know. I dont have a weighted dip belt, but I can do 15-18 consecutive bodyweight dips and about 8 or 9 bodyweight chins.
I am eating between 200 and 250 grams of protein daily.
I looked at 5x5, but I dont think I would enjoy it much. I did low reps all last semester and I dont wont go do it again. I am going to start Cosgrove’s Hypertrophy 1 program today. Its a 2 day upper/lower split based entirely around compound movements.[/quote]
Unless you’re a masochist, you aren’t supposed to “enjoy” lifting. Suck it the fuck up and lift big. You won’t get big any other way.
[quote]Politico wrote:
Unless you’re a masochist, you aren’t supposed to “enjoy” lifting. Suck it the fuck up and lift big. You won’t get big any other way.[/quote]
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that the majority of the people here enjoy lifting.
I know I do, or I wouldn’t do it.
I love to squat.
I posted because I wanted advice.
If I wanted some person to come across like a hardass over the internet, I would have gone to one of the countless other bodybuilding sites on the web that are overrun by keyboard warriors whose posts only purpose is to degrade the OP.
That being said, when I said I wouldnt enjoy it, I meant that the program wouldnt hold my interests. Weight lifting is not merely a means to an end, it is amongst my favorite past-times. Doing shit that you dont enjoy simply because sounds like a quick way to burn out and move along.
Im also pretty sure that there are plenty of big people on this message board who enjoyed getting that way. Im sure that they would also tell you that “sucking it the fuck up” and using a program that they dont enjoy following is not the only way to get big.
Im assuming you havent actually read all of this thread, because no where did I say I planned on pussying my way through this. Just because I am not using Starr’s 5x5 doesnt mean I am not lifting heavy weights and using big compounds.
Take the bullshit to BB.com, its not necessary.
I don’t agree with one of the previous posters that you can’t enjoy weight training. I enjoy the challenge and the personal records.
However, he had the right idea regarding heavy compound lifts (singles, doubles, and triples with bench press, overhead press, squat, and deadlift, among others) for maximal size and strength.
Also, remember that your body needs to properly recover from lifting, so don’t train if your body is too sore. Give it another day or two and then do that workout. Just try not to get in the habit of skipping workouts.
You can enjoy it if you’re a masochist of sorts, as I said. If you’re lifting like you’re supposed to be lifting, it’s painful, a struggle, and a challenge. Get my drift?
Yeah, I get what youre saying.
Im not opposed to the pain that comes with lifting (given that its not injury related). I am opposed to following a program that I think is boring “just because”.
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Unless you’re a masochist, you aren’t supposed to “enjoy” lifting. Suck it the fuck up and lift big. You won’t get big any other way.[/quote]
Really.
[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
Yeah, I get what youre saying.
Im not opposed to the pain that comes with lifting (given that its not injury related). I am opposed to following a program that I think is boring “just because”.[/quote]
It’s not “just because”, it’s because you’ll get huge it you do it right.
My point is that there are other programs that I could use just as effectively that I would be able to stay interested in besides 5x5.
Its not the be all, end all.
FightingTiger where are your work outs? What’s a Log if you aren’t logging in? Use that blog in your profile to record your workouts too.
Who cares what routine you doing 5x5, 3x8, 4x6 etc. Get on a program. Eat big. You’ll be fine.
Alright, past two day’s training-
Monday-Strength Day, Upper Body
Hang Cleans-5 sets, heaviest 115x2
Bench Press- 5 sets, heaviest 195x2
Db Shoulder Press- 3x8 @ 45’s
Bent-Over Rows-5 sets, heaviest 205x2
Chins-3 sets-6,5,5
Dips-3 sets-13,12,12
Tuesday-Strength Day, Lower Body
Squats-4 sets, heaviest 275x3
Deadlift-3 sets, heaviest 315x1
Split Squats- 3x10 @ 50 lbs
Pull Throughs- 3x10 @ 60 lbs
Crunches- 3x25
On a side note, Iv been snacking on Natty peanut butter like crazy recently and I also managed to find a big box of whiting fillets for 10 bucks at the supercenter, so I will be eating fish for weeks!
[quote]Irish Muscle wrote:
this is my first time seeing your thread fighting tiger, looks like your workin hard and eating right.
the only thing i don’t agree with is all the analytical shit. Why weigh out 5 ounces of this and 6 ounces of that and then have half cup of semi skim milk with 3.556 of an egg white- just eat like a cunt and train hard. If you start to store fat then fiddle your diet until it all levels out and your in the right direction.
i hate all that overly thought out nutrition plans, they’re not needed when your bulking up, maybe they’re ok for cutting diets[/quote]
It’s called a food log, a useful tool to use in addition to “eat like a cunt and train hard”-type of advice, esp. for beginners.
Ran some intervals tonight. 10th mile sprinting, 10th mile walking, repeated 5 times.
Also had one of those 4-alarm chicken sandwiches from Wendys and some fries for dinner. Not as hot as theyd have you think, but it was good. I felt pretty shitty after eating it-hence the intervals…fast food never sits well with me so I generally avoid it. I probably wont be giving into that craving anymore in the future.
Have a project due tomorrow, so Im off to the library to finish that up so I can get some sleep and not have a shitty workout after classes tomorrow.