Rest times and number of sets

This might be where we are talking past each other. There is no way I classify 2 RIR as intense. I would call that set additional volume.

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Pushing to failure all the time is fatiguing, too… 1 or 2 RIR is reasonable. Anything at 4 or over isn’t. I get steadier gains with 1 or 2 RIR than I do hitting failure all the time.

There is the disconnect. I call that volume training

I can’t imagine bothering with a 4 RIR set. Who does that?

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Agreed

as part of your study…have your urine analyzed and see how much protein you are pissing out

Volume - effective reps

If I do 2 sets of 5 to 7 with1 or 2 RIR, I’ll have accumulated enough effective reps for that movement and will be able to train more frequently so weekly net stimulus will be higher

Ha… I’ll just assess via if I’m getting stronger / leaner faster than usual

Mostly women… Had one have 9 RIR … oof

There are many ways to skin a cat

imho…its consistency to the method of choice thats the most important

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Thats not too scientific, lol

Especially if it’s the most optimal method

I’ll mail you a stool sample too

Send it to castoli or zecarlo

Cut it in half and add cat dung

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Why don’t you list what your WO’s consist of. You mentioned 7 movements but what are they? If you can’t get through your sets then chances are you have programmed the wrong weight/rep scheme for what you are doing.

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If you want to increase the amount of work you do close to failure without increasing workout time significantly, you could consider rest-pause/myoreps. In your case it might look something like 2-3 sets of 10 reps with longer rest periods, followed by 3-5 (or more) seconds of rest, then 2-3 reps, then 3-5s rest, repeating some number of times. Numbers are just ballpark. Lots of guidelines floating around the 'net.

I personally find 4 straight sets a little tedious, regardless of how much time I’m able to spend in the gym.

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The math here just doesn’t check out unless you are going for 40-50 sets per workout or something. Most of my workouts train 2 antagonist muscle groups that I superset for 8-10 sets per group. I rest up to 4 min between supersets and still always finish around the 45min mark.

30 sec rest and you’re basically doing a rest-pause set. Nothing wrong with this, but something doesn’t add up here. Are you taking like 5 min between exercises or something?

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Relevant and kind of interesting: a between-limb study showed similar hypertrophic results in near-failure and volume-equated 7 RIR training in trained lifters.

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