Finally hetyey, something we can agree about!
However, my intentions are to extend the same courtesy to both men and women. My buddies always feel wierd when I open their car door first before going to mine. But thatâs just the way I do things.
Hetyey225 wrote: âdonât you understand that a woman can make you feel better (and worse also) than ANYTHING else in this world can.â That is a pathetic statement. No, I didnât know that! Thanks for enlightening me. Maybe you should realize that if not everyone else feels the same way as you do, then how you feel is not the objective truth. It is simply your preference. So, yor fragile self-esteem depends on approval of women. So what? Not everyone elseâs does. As for me, anyone that I care about can make me feel very bad or very good, simply because I have so much at stakeâregardless of sex. That can be my wife, or close friends and family.
hyok, you said you were married, well Iâm sure your wife loves that she is an equal to your buds, and that you derive just as much pleasure from your buds as you do her. why get married if that person is not the most important (being most important would meen haveing the most effect on your life) person in your life? peace
I open doors for anyone regardless of gender. Itâs common courtesy. I donât swear around strangers but I do swear around women I know that arenât offended by it. I donât put women up on a pedestal, I treat them with respect instead.
I do treat my wife better than anyone on the planet and it will always be that way. Nothing will provoke violence in me faster than a guy saying something derogatory or rude to her. Most of the time she really doesnât need to be taken care offâŠshe can make a guy look pretty small with just a few words.
I do think a lot of what people thought of as respect for women came out of the fact that they thought women were weaker and needed to be shielded. Much of that has changed to just plain respect for another human, which I think is better, but some people do truly lack any sort of social graces.
Hetyey, your not alone with that bro. I still get the door for the Vixen, and am still her defender and protector. I am the ONLY one allowed to say ANYTHING bad about the VixenâŠif anyone else doesâŠI will shred them plain and simpleâŠthat includes family. The only cursing I do in front of her is in the bedroom (where that language is allowed ) I know what your talking about is âold fashionedâ to a lot of people, but I still am old fashioned I guess. I think the feminist movement ruined a lot of that. When I was dating I once opened a door for a woman who was a feminist that I was dating. She proceded to tell me âI can open my own doorâŠthank youâ I started to for the rest of the nightâŠpull the door closed behind me every time we went somewhere (yes I was being a major dick) needless to sayâŠthere wasnt another date!
I also agree that the younger generation seems to lack this common courtesy. I was with the vixen about 4 months ago walking in a park. Two teenagers on bikes whipped between usâŠalmost knocking her down. The one said âMove it bitchâ as he went past. Because we were both stunned, I admit I didnt say anything, but when they came back down the path the other way, he caught a nice side kick that lifted his punk ass clean off his bike and about 4 feet into the grass. I was pretty happy with myself, but he started bawling his eyes outâŠand I had to get a lecture from the Vixen later on about not picking on 16 year olds. Some days you just canât win!! But as I saidâŠtodays teenagers in a lot of cases (not all) seem to have NO concept of respectâŠand all want to try to seem as big and bad as possibleâŠit is a shame.
John M. Berardi - youâre the nutrition king & Iâve benefited greatly from your articles, but opening the car door for other guys, thatâs so gay!
i find it interesting that mark_la thinks one man extending courtesy to another is âgay.â no wonder men in the U.S. have a hard time expressing their inner selves: dicks like mark_la say stupid shit.
dude, keep opening the doors. mark_la, grow the hell up.
Hetyey225, you really need to work on your reading comprehension and logical thinking. I feel silly that I need to even justify this by explaining, but of course it goes without saying that the most significant person in my life is my wife. But how does that extend to courtesy to all members of her gender and ONLY to the members of that gender? How you could interpret what I wrote as meaning my bud are on the same plane as my wife is simply baffling. It is clear that you just donât understand. You go on tipping your hat, opening doors for, and offering seats to anyone with a pair of ovaries and go on doing your one set to failure every ten days. Go on being smug in your ignorance, because with your inability to take in new information, you are hopeless.
I could talk your ear off about the ârespectâ aspect of this but instead Iâll address the âstands up forâ part.
Iâve seen a few girls get tossed around by their boyfriends/husbands. Every fiber in my being was screaming out to dish the guy out the beating of his life (I mean a beating with a blunt metal object, not a fair fight) I never did it because I knew the girl would take his side and it would ruin my relationship/end with her. Iâve seen this girl take âhisâ side after being beaten so severely that this petite girl was hospitalized. Now, I would have gave the beating out regardless if it was my mother or sister but I felt like it wasnât my place to intervene with the other occcurances (mostly random couples). Did I make a good decision? I donât even know if thereâs a right answer. âŠIâd like some input from other T-Men (or T-Vixens)
This is the age of âequalityâ! Nobody should be holding doors open for women, etc because itâs probably degrading in some way. How sexist is that? Maybe women should open doors for me to make up for all the times I had to open doors for them.
Man you are so right about the abused woman siding with the man against you. Every time, EVERY TIME!I have tried to help a girl or woman who was being abused by a man, I ended up getting abused by both of them. I learned a long time ago to stay out of that kind of conflict. I bet cops know all about thisâKatana
Cops DO know all about it. Domestic violence situations are the most volatile, unpredictable, and downright dangerous situations for cops to confront. Theyâre also psychologically defeating, because they repeat themselves over and over with no resolution or closure. It sucks, but until the women involved say âEnoughâs enoughâ, it just keeps happening.
If a guy is verbally abusing his girlfriend, then Iâd say do nothing. But if it crosses over into physical violence, then Iâd at the very least call the cops. Sometimes without getting physical you may be able to calmly defuse the situation. I just is not for people to stand around while someone is getting beaten up.
Iâm leaving for LA (I live in Boston) w/ in the hour. So if it seems like I suddenly stop replying, itâs because I canât get to a computer while in Cali. Obviously Iâm hoping to be able to continue this conversation.
hyok, you quoted what I said about a womans ability to make a man feel good or even bad, you stated the someone you care about male or female can make you feel good or bad, if your wife does make you feel better or worse than anyone else I would guess I am correct, if she does not, why be married? Oh, and what does how I train (which you could atleast get right!) have to do w/this thread. peace
LT - I had a little trouble deciphering your message, does this mean your a pitcher or a catcher? Look douchebag, thatâs our accepted culture in the U.S. and weâre proud of it. Stop watching our TV programs and movies if you canât tolerate it. It might be socially acceptable in France for douchebags like yourself to kiss each other on each cheek everytime you meet, but we consider that gay in the U.S. In the U.S. this isnât defined as âextending a courtesy,â itâs defined as gay. Extending a courtesy is when I feed my neighborâs dog and pick up his mail when heâs on vacation. Extending a courtesy is when I help a blind person cross the street. Extending a courtesy is when I help an old lady carry her heavy grocery bags. Thatâs extending a courtesy in the U.S. If opening doors and french-kissing your buddies while watching womenâs golf is socially acceptable in your country for straight men, then by all means go ahead and do it, but donât call those of us in the U.S. immature because our society doesnât agree with you.
First of all, youâre only partially correct. Some segments of our culture donât tolerate homosexuality, but that is changing. You donât have to like it, but you do have to live with it. Second, just because a given attitude is accepted, that doesnât make it right. Only one hundred years ago, women in this country couldnât vote. One hundred fifty years ago, blacks were traded on the free market as livestock. And those opposed to social change in those times used the EXACT SAME ARGUMENTS that you just used in your response to LT.
Dude, something tells me that you were the kind of guy who didnât want to take a shower after gym class in high school âcause "I donât want any homos lookinâ at my body and gettinâ turned on." Men, and women, who are truly confident in their sexuality donât concern themselves with the âorifice choiceâ of others.
I never said I didnât like gay people, or that they shouldnât be treated equally and with as much respect as straight people. I work with some gay people and have had them as friends in high school and college. My original half-joking statement to JMB of âopening car doors, thatâs so gay!â was based on my entire lifeâs observations. In all of my entire life in the U.S., Iâve never seen a straight man open a car door for another straight man, but I HAVE seen many gay men open car doors for other gay men (just like straight men open car doors for women, especially early in the relationship). If youâre gay, then good, whatever turns you on, I really have no objections to your behavior. With all that said, it still isnât normal established behavior in the U.S. for a straight man to open a car door for another man.