Reporting Illegal Immigrants

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]HBSBound wrote:

I hope that at some point you come to the realization that your comments are internally inconsistent, superfluous, and just generally flawed in a multidimensional fashion. I’m making no second order assumptions here - you could argue that assumptions are contained in free market theory to which I would respond by referring you back to read why I highlighted “second order,” but I suspect you lack the educational underpinnings and just the general capacity of abstraction to make that type of analysis. Have you taken a class or been exposed to economic theory? That’s fine though, but what strikes me as interesting is that even when trying to “translate” your early comments to Spanish in the hopes of “intellectualizing” your arguments, you did so in the poorest Spanish fathomable. I just chuckled at the irony. Please don’t consider this an ad hominem attack on you. I can’t really deconstruct your point because none was made. :slight_smile: [/quote]

Man, you seem to have really good points to make and a good grasp of the English language, along with a pretty impressive vocabulary.

So please, for the love of Je-sus, please start incorporating some white space and carriage returns in your sentences to keep us from going cross eyed when trying to read it!!! :)[/quote]

Hahaha! You don’t seem to have enjoyed “On the Road” by Jack Kerouac. That’s the style I was going for. But, since you bargained “for the love of Je-sus,” and were overly generous with the use of “please,” I will accommodate your request in the future. I rarely post, though, so the likelihood that you’ll go cross-eyed from my posts is nominal, at best. :slight_smile:

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[quote]bluefingas wrote:

So what you’re saying is…that its ok to go into another country and break its law? Because that is what you’re saying.
They’re a waste of taxpayer money and aren’t that helpful to the economy.
Yes, there are other things that fuck up our economy, but that’s a completely different topic. This discussion is about ILLEGAL immigration.
Build up your own country, instead out taking ours down with you.[/quote]

Ok, so invading a country is ok then, i mean your not breaking any law, you are just killing people.

I’m not taking your country down with me, actually i KNOW that USA is superior in many ways, it is the most powerful country and i won’t deny that i would like to live in it.

I know what this discussion is about, what i don’t get is your fucking patriotism, why defend your country? defend it against what??, people?? so you are everybody’s enemy then i guess.

You defend your country, i’ll defend anyone who needs my help.

I mean mexicans??wtf?? they just consume million of dollar from USA products, they are obviouslly threatening your economy.

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It sure is generous of people telling me I have to give my money and our jobs to criminals.

It is such a joke that foreigners are saying that our laws don’t matter. I think we should send all the illegals to their country since they seem to be so generous and giving. Perhaps some of you will fly a family out of mexico and set them up with a place to live. Surely you are willing to work for them as you wish me to do.

So which one is it, you guys going to take them all or are you all just a bunch of hippocrates.

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[quote]Standard Donkey wrote:
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These people ARE shit, which is why it is completely appropriate to treat them as such.[/quote]

I get your point, but come on, USA invaded a country and killed lot of people, and i’m not calling you a murderer, you had nothing to do with that, so i din’t.

An uncle of mine was caitizen of your country and he was murdered and not because of that i’m thinking that every citizen of USA is a murderer.

A friend of mine was raped, beated down, tortured and finally murdered, BY mexicans, so what’s the difference?? i know that not every mexican is like them, because I’M NOT, and i swear that if i ever get to know who did it i’ll rip their assholes in two.

It’s time to stop hating and diving us from each other, we are human being who habitate the same planet.

Let us be the ones who end with all the racism, hate and all that shit.

WE are brothers, i care a shit in wich country we live.

I want to stop with that chain of racism and individualism,

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[quote]tuchavito wrote:
wtf??

I’m so dissapointed, wtf is wrong with you guys?? Seriously, are you fucking retarded? Because many of you think like that.

We are all humans, we are all the same, i can’t believe how you get fucking annoyed because inmigrants “steal” your jobs, wtf?? it’s just a fucking job. You talk about inmigrants like if they were fucking aliens.

I always wonder why there is fucking war, why there are kidnaps or murders or that shit, and watching how you talk about other PERSONS just make me sick.

Those illegal motherfuckers who don’t pay taxes, who steal your jobs, and bla bla bla are just trying to survive, they are trying to get some fucking money to feed their families.

what the fuck would you do if you were in such sittuation?, what would you feel if everyone around you would see you as a garbage without knowing you?

Fucking world is falling apart, people is dying, everybody should be trying to help each other, but why would you do such thing if you can critize and hate in stead.

I really hope you never get to know what it feels to hava an entire family and having nothing but a fucking piece of bread to feed them and to have to go to another fucking country to get some money, a country where everybody hates you and will try to run over you at their first chance.

You talk about “your country”, i just want you to remember that we all live in the same planet, and that just because you were born in certain area of i, doesn’t mean you own it.

Just remember that maybe tomorrow you will need your neightbor’s help.

Just fucking calm down and stop treating people like animals.

And just want you to remember that it was YOUR fucking beautiful country with such beautiful laws and shit that invaded a country.[/quote]

You have no idea what you are talking about. If you’re going to be a kind hard working person, then I doubt that anybody would care if you are here illegally. We are sick of the scum of Mexico (or anywhere for that matter) invading the US illegally, joining gangs, and committing violent crimes. A huge amount of illegals end up joining gangs here in the US.

I won’t even get into the fact that illegals suck out tens of billions of dollars from state and federal budgets, not to mention the health care system. Add to that the fact that they end up sending money out of the country, and that’s even a bigger loss to our economy.

If you’re going to come to the US illegally, at least be a nice person who works hard and has respect for people. Illegals are raping our country, plain and simple.

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[quote]John S. wrote:
It sure is generous of people telling me I have to give money and our jobs to criminals.

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Your jobs?? as far as i knew a job belongs to the person who is hired, the money is property of the person who earns it.

Criminals?? As far as i know for every 100 USA citizens there is 1 in jail.

And you don’t have to give your money, just keep it and be happy with it.

And for the record, there was a time when telling what you thought was a crime, so i guess that moving to another country as a last chance of giving a less than shitty life to your family should be punished with death.

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[quote]tuchavito wrote:

[quote]Standard Donkey wrote:
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These people ARE shit, which is why it is completely appropriate to treat them as such.[/quote]

I get your point, but come on, USA invaded a country and killed lot of people, and i’m not calling you a murderer, you had nothing to do with that, so i din’t.

An uncle of mine was caitizen of your country and he was murdered and not because of that i’m thinking that every citizen of USA is a murderer.

A friend of mine was raped, beated down, tortured and finally murdered, BY mexicans, so what’s the difference?? i know that not every mexican is like them, because I’M NOT, and i swear that if i ever get to know who did it i’ll rip their assholes in two.

It’s time to stop hating and diving us from each other, we are human being who habitate the same planet.

Let us be the ones who end with all the racism, hate and all that shit.

WE are brothers, i care a shit in wich country we live.

I want to stop with that chain of racism and individualism,

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Your posts are moronic. We are not saying that Mexicans are bad people you fucktard. What people here are stating is the obvious (at least, theoretically obvious…doesn’t seem to catch on to SOME people): that the ILLEGAL mexicans that are here in this country AGAINST OUR LAWS are criminals and are ENCOURAGED to CONTINUE TO BREAK THOSE LAWS. How in the fuck can you possibly dispute that as being anything other than 100% bonafide fact?

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[quote]tuchavito wrote:

[quote]John S. wrote:
It sure is generous of people telling me I have to give money and our jobs to criminals.

[/quote]

Your jobs?? as far as i knew a job belongs to the person who is hired, the money is property of the person who earns it.

Criminals?? As far as i know for every 100 USA citizens there is 1 in jail.

And you don’t have to give your money, just keep it and be happy with it.

And for the record, there was a time when telling what you thought was a crime, so i guess that moving to another country as a last chance of giving a less than shitty life to your family should be punished with death.[/quote]

The Jobs belong to Americans or those with green cards. Not criminals who work for shitty wages and collect every benefits under the sun. They are a cancer to the free market. I have a gun to my head forcing me to give these criminals money.

If you cross our boarders you should be held accountable for the law you broke. Fix your own country.

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[quote]Scuba19 wrote:
We are sick of the scum of Mexico (or anywhere for that matter) invading the US illegally, joining gangs, and committing violent crimes. A huge amount of illegals end up joining gangs here in the US.

I won’t even get into the fact that illegals suck out tens of billions of dollars from state and federal budgets, not to mention the health care system. Add to that the fact that they end up sending money out of the country, and that’s even a bigger loss to our economy.
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So am i, as i stated before, i HATE mexico as a country, and i know that many mexicans deserve nothing but the death and i would be very pleased to do it my self, but you know that there are lots of USA citizens that are not better than the “illegal scum”.

But there are also the people who jjust try to earn some bucks honestly, they are trying to survive.

wouldn’t you do anything to survive or to defend your family?? (and just for the record, 90% of the products mexican consume are from USA, so i don’t the loss to your country)

A

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Mexicans can immigrate legally. It just irks me that the criminal border jumpers are in most cases criminals in Mexico and also criminals in the US. If you want to come to my country and become a part, then do it legally. Why is that so controversial?

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[quote]John S. wrote:

The Jobs belong to Americans or those with green cards. Not criminals who work for shitty wages and collect every benefits under the sun.

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This will go right over his head because he simply can’t grasp the obvious differences between the USA and Mexico. The fact that in our country there is at least an ATTEMPT at some sort of orderly system, and MOST people that are here generally try to respect that process. I would bet a lot of money that as much as the majority of illegal aliens would think nothing of stealing someone’s identity and assuming the life of that person, with no regard whatsoever with the effects it would have on the victim’s emotional, financial, and physical well being. And that is just fucking pathetic.

Have you ever have the unfortunate experience of trying to drive in Mexican cities? Its a fucking nightmare because the scum there have absolutely no regard for the law and feel that they are entitled to occupy any space they want on the road at any time with zero regard for others they are sharing the road with. It seems they apply the same thought(lessness) process about the continent they share with others as well.

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[quote]John S. wrote:

If you cross our boarders you should be held accountable for the law you broke. Fix your own country.
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I bet people from irak were thinking the same.

Everbody who damages another people should be punished, but not for trying to survive.

I’m not trying to defend criminals, i just don’t get why some people hate other people, it is jut not fair to blame some people for the mistakes of other, it is not fair.

I’m out of this discussion, i don0t want to prove anything, i just wanted you to stop hating people, we are all the same, no one deserves to be treated as garbage.

Just remember that maybe tomorrow you may need the help of an illegal inmigrant.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

Mexicans can immigrate legally. It just irks me that the criminal border jumpers are in most cases criminals in Mexico and also criminals in the US. If you want to come to my country and become a part, then do it legally. Why is that so controversial?

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Because the people who tend to move to USA is the one who has nothing but their souls (and paying the guy who helps them cross).

A VISA is needed to go to USA, and not everyone can afford it, you need to have good bank account records, you need to have a solid monthly salary.

I doubt people who lives in a house made of boxes can do such things.

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[quote]tuchavito wrote:

So am i, as i stated before, i HATE mexico as a country, and i know that many mexicans deserve nothing but the death and i would be very pleased to do it my self, but you know that there are lots of USA citizens that are not better than the “illegal scum”.

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yes, and we make an attempt to throw those fuckers in jail and punish them for the CRIMES they have committed. They aren’t encouraged by the government and social convention to keep BREAKING THE LAWS for as long as they can get away with them. I don’t know why this is so hard for you to understand.

I also find it amusing you implying that you have no problem with mexican criminals being punished when they break mexican laws, but for some reason think they shouldn’t be punished when they break our laws.

God now I know why I stay out of these forums for the most part. There are some seriously stupid people banging away at the keyboards here. It really makes me wonder how you even manage to turn a computer on and navigate to this website.

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:

Mexicans can immigrate legally. It just irks me that the criminal border jumpers are in most cases criminals in Mexico and also criminals in the US. If you want to come to my country and become a part, then do it legally. Why is that so controversial?

[/quote]

This.

I like legal immigrants, they tend to have a work ethic that is to be admired.

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

I also find it amusing you implying that you have no problem with mexican criminals being punished when they break mexican laws, but for some reason think they shouldn’t be punished when they break our laws.

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Everyone should be punished for harmiing/offending/whatever, not for trying to survive.

If a mexican kilss someone in your country, then kill him or put him in jail, i’d do it, but if a guy with 4 sons, no job ,and feeling the weight of the world on your shoulders is just trying to survive, well i don’t think that should be considered as a crime.

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

God now I know why I stay out of these forums for the most part. There are some seriously stupid people banging away at the keyboards here. It really makes me wonder how you even manage to turn a computer on and navigate to this website.[/quote]

And just to make my point clear, i never insulted you or anyone in this forum, but that doesn’t matter, you’d beat the hell out of me just because i don’t have the same ideas as you.

That’s my point, stop being that way.

My intention is not to become a public enemy, i just wanted you to see that you don’t have to hate others to be happy.

I hope you never have to move to another country just to keep your family alive and find out that just because of that you became a criminal.

hijack/

hijack/

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[quote]tuchavito wrote:

[quote]bluefingas wrote:

So what you’re saying is…that its ok to go into another country and break its law? Because that is what you’re saying.
They’re a waste of taxpayer money and aren’t that helpful to the economy.
Yes, there are other things that fuck up our economy, but that’s a completely different topic. This discussion is about ILLEGAL immigration.
Build up your own country, instead out taking ours down with you.[/quote]

Ok, so invading a country is ok then, i mean your not breaking any law, you are just killing people.

I’m not taking your country down with me, actually i KNOW that USA is superior in many ways, it is the most powerful country and i won’t deny that i would like to live in it.

I know what this discussion is about, what i don’t get is your fucking patriotism, why defend your country? defend it against what??, people?? so you are everybody’s enemy then i guess.

You defend your country, i’ll defend anyone who needs my help.

I mean mexicans??wtf?? they just consume million of dollar from USA products, they are obviouslly threatening your economy.[/quote]
So if I couldn’t support my family, should I be able to move to China and leech off their country?

You’re arguments are stupid. We are talking about illegal immigration and you bring up invading a country. Two completely different things. Get a better argument.

Yeah, the USA is superior to Mexico. Thanks for pointing that out Sherlock Holmes. This country was once the most powerful nation, but many problems have dragged our nation down. One of them is illegal immigration. We shouldn’t have to take care of your people. We already have a tough time employing out own citizens.

You ask what I’m defending my country from? Scum illegal immigrants who have no right to be here. I’m not prejudice. They are BREAKING THE LAW. You’re advocating breaking laws to be able to support your family. Yes, illegal immigrants supporting their family is a noble thing, but not at the expense of our country.

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ok then, I’m not looking for enemies, you do you and you do me.

And i honestly hope you never have to break a law for defending someone you love.

And i hope your country can find a way to get rid of all the scum so it can become a powerful nation once again.

You’ll die knowing that you belonged to the most powerful nation in the world.

Best wishes.

TC