Joe Legal Vs Jose Illegal

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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Something I came across. Let’s discuss the truths and non-truths to this…

JOE LEGAL vs. JOSE ILLEGAL
You have two families: “Joe Legal” and “Jose Illegal”.
Both families have two parents, two children and live in California.

Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour, with taxes deducted.

Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number and gets paid $15.00 cash per hour, “under the table”.

Ready? Now pay attention …

Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week or $52,000.00 per year. Now take minimum 30% away for state and federal tax and Joe Legal now has$31,231.00.

Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week or $31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays NO state or federal taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.

Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare, due to his “anchor children” that were born in the US . Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631.00.

Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month or $2,400.00 for car insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.

Jose Illegal says “We don’t need no stinkin’ insurance!” and still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal only gets a child tax credit for his two children, giving him another 800 dollars tax credit a year to $8,031.00.

Jose Legal gets state subsidized money for his anchor babies at $650 per Child for an additional $15,600 to give Jose Illegal $46,800 to live on.

Joe Legal has to make his $8,031.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.

Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, plus what he sends out of the country every month.

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal’s and Jose Illegal’s children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children’s lunches while Jose Illegal’s children get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal’s children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal’s children go home and he needs to pay for a babysitter to watch them while he and his wife work.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay anything.

Do you get it, now?

If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens in any manner, then you are part of the problem!

It’s WAY PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!
It is also way past time to rescind the “anchor baby” law. Remove the incentive for illegals to rush across our border to give birth and thus have access to benefits Americans have worked and paid their entire lives for!

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OOOH this is the reason so many white folks are on welfare then? I get it now! its the illegal immigrants fault, not the powerful white folks that decide working wages and taxes…

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How about the outsourcing of companies overseas? and the recession?

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At least they don’t get to dip into the SS pool.

Perhaps a fair tax overhaul is in order?

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Preaching to the choir Rock :slight_smile:

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Rock you forgot about the welfare they receive for anchor babies, here in LA it is 650/month/child.

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[quote]spyoptic wrote:
OOOH this is the reason so many white folks are on welfare then? I get it now! its the illegal immigrants fault, not the powerful white folks that decide working wages and taxes…

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What thread are you responding to? This is about getting paid under the table bud.

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[quote]spyoptic wrote:
How about the outsourcing of companies overseas? and the recession?[/quote]

Has nothing to do with illegal aliens having babies here and getting hired under the table.

Please try and address the actual thread content ok?

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Rock you forgot about the welfare they receive for anchor babies, here in LA it is 650/month/child. [/quote]

31,200 plus 1300x12 (15,600) for the 2 kids give Jose Illegal $46,800 to liv on.

Joe Legal has about $7500 to live on.

This shit needs to stop. La Raza and the likes of them need to go. They are parasites sucking off a system now in the ICU.

THIS SINGLE item would just about eliminate California’s economic problems all by itself.

Then we can work on the whit folks on welfare…make them clean parking lots or build shit for local cities and Counties for their carrer food stamps.

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[quote]Standard Donkey wrote:
At least they don’t get to dip into the SS pool.

Perhaps a fair tax overhaul is in order?[/quote]

If we eliminate state income taxes and raise state sales taxes, then we would recover a lot of that, especially given that even 50% of people working legally pay no taxes and still get money back from the state.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Rock you forgot about the welfare they receive for anchor babies, here in LA it is 650/month/child. [/quote]

Fixed it in the original.

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[quote]spyoptic wrote:
How about the outsourcing of companies overseas? and the recession?[/quote]

Companies go overseas when it gets too expensive to hire here. Still want those minimum wage laws and corporate taxes?

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

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You hang out with lots of Mexicans on the weekends? Like it’s only ILLEGALS that spend time with their families. Being here illegally creates physical,financial and mental stress - assuming they just sit back and relax while watching Telemundo is amazingly incorrect.

And, the anchor baby comment - since this case was a comparison of 2 construction workers, what changes would an anchor baby bring to the equation? Are you expecting them to “take all the jobs”, specifically in construction, when they come of age?

Off-topic: I lived in Sweden for 19 years, 90% of the immigrants that come there contribute nothing to society. When I came to California, I was amazed by the Mexicans I met, they are the kind of immigrants a civilized country needs.

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Tell us, AW: do you see any problems with the above-described situation?

Other than objections about wording or objecting to the entire concept that there could be anything wrong here.’

??

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Does every illegal get rent subsidies/free dental or even a JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

Tell me, BR, can you read through the propaganda, between the lines, and comprehend that the same teqniques were implemented when the national socialists were “building up” their case against jews? It plays into people’s fears about the economy, and it blames a ethnic group/religion, while lying about their actual status in society.

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[quote]archiewhittaker wrote:
Does every illegal get rent subsidies/free dental or even a JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

Tell me, BR, can you read through the propaganda, between the lines, and comprehend that the same teqniques were implemented when the national socialists were “building up” their case against jews? It plays into people’s fears about the economy, and it blames a ethnic group/religion, while lying about their actual status in society.[/quote]

So your defense is that:

  1. It isn’t exactly that way each time.
    and
  2. If we disagree with you, we’re Nazis?

I’m not even going to bother trying to explain to you the childish immaturity and logical flaws in this post. But please, continue typing and make yourself look dumber.

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[quote]archiewhittaker wrote:
Does every illegal get rent subsidies/free dental or even a JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

Tell me, BR, can you read through the propaganda, between the lines, and comprehend that the same teqniques were implemented when the national socialists were “building up” their case against jews? It plays into people’s fears about the economy, and it blames a ethnic group/religion, while lying about their actual status in society.[/quote]

Okay, I asked you if you saw any problem in the sort of situation described and it seems your answer is no, other than objecting to anyone pointing out or claiming there’s a problem.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]archiewhittaker wrote:
Does every illegal get rent subsidies/free dental or even a JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

Tell me, BR, can you read through the propaganda, between the lines, and comprehend that the same teqniques were implemented when the national socialists were “building up” their case against jews? It plays into people’s fears about the economy, and it blames a ethnic group/religion, while lying about their actual status in society.[/quote]

So your defense is that:

  1. It isn’t exactly that way each time.
    and
  2. If we disagree with you, we’re Nazis?

I’m not even going to bother trying to explain to you the childish immaturity and logical flaws in this post. But please, continue typing and make yourself look dumber.[/quote]

Can you even read? I didn’t type any of the things you accuse me of typing.

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[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:

[quote]archiewhittaker wrote:
Does every illegal get rent subsidies/free dental or even a JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

Tell me, BR, can you read through the propaganda, between the lines, and comprehend that the same teqniques were implemented when the national socialists were “building up” their case against jews? It plays into people’s fears about the economy, and it blames a ethnic group/religion, while lying about their actual status in society.[/quote]

Okay, I asked you if you saw any problem in the sort of situation described and it seems your answer is no, other than objecting to anyone pointing out or claiming there’s a problem.[/quote]

This is a fabricated situation though, where we are “supposed” to see that Joe Legal is having a hard life, because of Joe Illegal. It’s not real life. There are lots of things wrong with it, ffs.

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“Can you even read?”

Physician, heal thyself: