Failed them? Maybe in some cases people leave for a variety of reasons.
I can’t stand these fing Irish bastards marching around once a year getting drunk and waving their pride bull shit around. Fucking dirty swine if you ask me. Get over it fuck wads you ain’t even Irish posers, can’t stand them, good for nothing drunks.
Tell me one, other than there is no work, no opportunity, crime, basically every description of a failed country.
Better oprtunity, change of scenery, country is developing.
[quote]drewh wrote:
Better oprtunity, change of scenery, country is developing.[/quote]
If someone has a nicer house than me, can I break in and live there? Would that be OK?
Do you own the United States. is it your property? NO!!!
[quote]drewh wrote:
Do you own the United States. is it your property? NO!!![/quote]
Yes, actually. The citizens (which are legal by the way) own the government, and the government owns the United States. Don’t go giving me that “Nobody owns Mother Earth” bullshit now either. Citizens of the United States built this country into what it is, is it my fault that people in other countries built their nations into shit holes?
It’s the same concept as the ant and the grasshopper. The ant spends the whole summer building his winter home and gathering food. On the other hand, the grasshopper just lays around enjoying the nice weather. Once winter comes, the ant is comfortable and living great. Now, since the grasshopper didn’t do what he was supposed to, should the ant have to share his things (which he worked hard for) with the grasshopper?
Well in this case the grasshopper works harder than the aunt so sure.
So lets review Drew…
Signs of a failed country
- Lack of opportunity (check)
- Shitty scenery (check)
- Lack of development (check)
Yep, sounds like Mexico got all 3.
[quote]drewh wrote:
Well in this case the grasshopper works harder than the aunt so sure.[/quote]
Did you even read the story Scuba presented? Do you know how to read at all?
I love how things have changed in this discussion, in your eyes all immigrants leave their country because it sucks. THerefore all immgrants legal and illegal don’t deserve to be here? Because it’s not our fault their country sucks even though your ancestors probably came for opportunity or to escape a shitty country. Unless you are native American which I guarantee non of you are (and no that one uncle or grea great great grandpa doesn’t count)
[quote]drewh wrote:
I love how things have changed in this discussion, in your eyes all immigrants leave their country because it sucks. THerefore all immgrants legal and illegal don’t deserve to be here? Because it’s not our fault their country sucks even though your ancestors probably came for opportunity or to escape a shitty country. Unless you are native American which I guarantee non of you are (and no that one uncle or grea great great grandpa doesn’t count)[/quote]
No, you were trying to justify illegal immigrants coming here illegally is fine because they’re country is shit. Their country is a product of them. If it’s shit, it’s because they made it that way or let it be that way.
Yes, my ancestors came here because it was better here. However, they did it LEGALLY.
Again, no one here has a problem with LEGAL immigrants.
[quote]cremaster wrote:
[quote]gtdmx0 wrote:
My mom came here illegally since there was a civil war in her country and she saw a death squad kill all the guys at the bus stop she was at.
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So, she wasn’t in any danger, save for the risks of getting hit by a stray bullet.
[quote]gtdmx0 wrote:
So my mom is a piece of shit since she had the motivation to jump the border to not be killed by death squads?
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You just said that the death squad didn’t kill her when she was standing there. Did they run out of bullets? Change their minds later?
[quote]gtdmx0 wrote:
Yes people should try to come here legally but some of them don’t have that option, like my mom, since her country closed the borders at one point.
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Yet she managed to come to America despite the ‘closed’ borders. Hmmm…
[quote]gtdmx0 wrote:
some people are just really proud of where they’re from and there’s nothing wrong with that.
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Yes, your ‘death squads’ seem quite chivalrous to me. No wonder she’s proud. [/quote]
First of all dumbass, at that point in the war they were only killing men, this is before the massacre at the church. And stop acting like a fucking smartass yeah she was in danger cuz she lived in a place where stray bullets would go through her house and the courtyard behind the gate. She had to sneak out of her country too and sneak into this one cuz if they found out where she was from she was gonna go back. And two of her brothers died from stray bullets before she decided to come here. Regardless I see you as a racist prick who is just going to spout off ignorant comments and have absolutely no sympathy for other people. We’re doing well for ourselves and she’s happy so thats all I care about since according to you we’re pieces of garbage. I’m done with this I realize that some white dudes are gonna be racist regardless of what happens. At the end of the day we’re all people and we need to help each other out from time to time.
Drew - I am an immigrant myself.
Gtdmx - When in doubt, when you disagree, you call them racist. I was waiting for someone to do it, great job, you never let me down. Why don’t you thank America, for providing your family the life that your native country never could. Tell your people to come legally, be humble and grateful, and stop saying gimme gimme gimme with their hands open.
I appreciate that Chushin, I was raised to be humble and grateful, to give respect, which ultimately leads to getting respect. You don’t really see the kind of greed from certain cultures, and it isn’t an immigrant thing, it’s a cultural thing. I don’t see Asians doing this kind of shit, and they kick ass in just about anything they try.
[quote]gtdmx0 wrote:
[quote]cremaster wrote:
[quote]gtdmx0 wrote:
My mom came here illegally since there was a civil war in her country and she saw a death squad kill all the guys at the bus stop she was at.
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So, she wasn’t in any danger, save for the risks of getting hit by a stray bullet.
[quote]gtdmx0 wrote:
So my mom is a piece of shit since she had the motivation to jump the border to not be killed by death squads?
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You just said that the death squad didn’t kill her when she was standing there. Did they run out of bullets? Change their minds later?
[quote]gtdmx0 wrote:
Yes people should try to come here legally but some of them don’t have that option, like my mom, since her country closed the borders at one point.
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Yet she managed to come to America despite the ‘closed’ borders. Hmmm…
[quote]gtdmx0 wrote:
some people are just really proud of where they’re from and there’s nothing wrong with that.
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Yes, your ‘death squads’ seem quite chivalrous to me. No wonder she’s proud. [/quote]
First of all dumbass, at that point in the war they were only killing men, this is before the massacre at the church. And stop acting like a fucking smartass yeah she was in danger cuz she lived in a place where stray bullets would go through her house and the courtyard behind the gate. She had to sneak out of her country too and sneak into this one cuz if they found out where she was from she was gonna go back. And two of her brothers died from stray bullets before she decided to come here. Regardless I see you as a racist prick who is just going to spout off ignorant comments and have absolutely no sympathy for other people. We’re doing well for ourselves and she’s happy so thats all I care about since according to you we’re pieces of garbage. I’m done with this I realize that some white dudes are gonna be racist regardless of what happens. At the end of the day we’re all people and we need to help each other out from time to time.[/quote]
“…I realize that some white dudes are gonna be racist regardless of what happens.”
Did you just really say that? First, your statement implies that only white people can be racist. Secondly, you’re assuming this has only to do with racism. People that think like you only see things in race.
I know some grad students that are here from Mexico. They’re great people who I have hung out with a good bit. We get together, they cook Mexican food, I bring beer, we have a great time. Here’s the catch though- they are very respectful, kind people who do not break the law.
This is not about race, this is about illegals coming here, committing violent crimes, being absolutely disrespectful, and raping the US for its resources.
There is no point Scuba, you see they need you to be racist. It is a deflection move to avoid the irrefutable fact that they broke the law. They think its ok for a burglar to break into your home and steal from you, they too “are looking for a better life.” How dare you try to stop them.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Drew - I am an immigrant myself.
Gtdmx - When in doubt, when you disagree, you call them racist. I was waiting for someone to do it, great job, you never let me down. Why don’t you thank America, for providing your family the life that your native country never could. Tell your people to come legally, be humble and grateful, and stop saying gimme gimme gimme with their hands open.
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My family came over legally, worked their asses off and has served in the military. My people? Stop assuming shit.