[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
I don’t know many people who consider cooking, cleaning, laundry and running household errands as “doing fun things as a family.”
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I never said anything about taking care of a family being such a drag all the time.
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If it’s not “fun”, what is it then? [/quote]
It’s cool dude, I see what your MO is. No need to go into this further.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]undoredo wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
Sometimes, giving up things that you like is part of marriage, fatherhood and growing up.
The ex shouldn’t have given him that ultimatum but if he really and truely loved this woman and his family then it shouldn’t have even gotten to that point.
Single moms aren’t terrible people but a single mom with multiple kids from multiple baby daddy’s is about a big of a red flag as they get.[/quote]
Yeah, right. Some women do strange things for no apparent reason. My mother gave me an ultimatum when I was 10 years old. I asked her why a few weeks ago, why she did that (which basically destroyed my social life (couldn’t hang out with any of my friends), screwed up my visiting time with my dad, and ultimately stuck me in a situation where I just baby sat my brother while my mother gambled and drank all day) and her answer, “No reason, except I wanted to show you who was in charge…”
I told her that was ridiculous, because she earlier said that I was spending too much time with my dad (which is dumb because the ultimatum led to me playing one less sport (which she could have easily just showed up to my practices and games/matches)).
So, yeah possibly I could have done something to keep my mother from giving me that ultimatum, but I still can’t figure it out 14 years later, and she can’t even give me an answer to why she did it after 14 years.[/quote]
What do your mommy issues have to do with what I wrote about two adults who love eachother in a marriage?
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If a woman exists who is willing to cut her own flesh-and-blood child off from wholesome outside activities for no good reason, then it stands to reason that a woman probably exists who would be willing to do the same thing to a man who is not even her own flesh and blood.
Oh, and by the way, nice shitty snide shot, there.
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It’s not a “snide shot.” It’s obvious that he has mommy issues, a lot of people do. (Maybe calling them “mommy issues” is where the snideness comes into play? That’s what everyone knows it as.)
I wasn’t taking a shot at him. Would it have been better if I said “pent up, unresolved issues about your mother”?
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I shouldn’t have assumed you were being snide and taking a shot at him.
^^its all good. I can see how it would come across that way and things easily get mixed up via the interwebz.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
I don’t know many people who consider cooking, cleaning, laundry and running household errands as “doing fun things as a family.”
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I never said anything about taking care of a family being such a drag all the time.
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If it’s not “fun”, what is it then?
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Mid-range on the fun-o-meter: not high enough to be fun; but not low enough to be a drag.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
I don’t know many people who consider cooking, cleaning, laundry and running household errands as “doing fun things as a family.”
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I never said anything about taking care of a family being such a drag all the time.
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If it’s not “fun”, what is it then? [/quote]
It’s cool dude, I see what your MO is. No need to go into this further.[/quote]
Apparently having any enjoyment from doing what’s require of a family man is too hard of a concept for you. It’s cool tho, go play softball or whatever your wife allows you to do.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
I don’t know many people who consider cooking, cleaning, laundry and running household errands as “doing fun things as a family.”
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I never said anything about taking care of a family being such a drag all the time.
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If it’s not “fun”, what is it then? [/quote]
It’s cool dude, I see what your MO is. No need to go into this further.[/quote]
Apparently having any enjoyment from doing what’s require of a family man is too hard of a concept for you. It’s cool tho, go play softball or whatever your wife allows you to do.
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lol, no need to get so butthurt.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
I don’t know many people who consider cooking, cleaning, laundry and running household errands as “doing fun things as a family.”
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I never said anything about taking care of a family being such a drag all the time.
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If it’s not “fun”, what is it then? [/quote]
It’s cool dude, I see what your MO is. No need to go into this further.[/quote]
Apparently having any enjoyment from doing what’s require of a family man is too hard of a concept for you. It’s cool tho, go play softball or whatever your wife allows you to do.
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^^lookin big Cap
I’m asking a simple question.
Do you enjoy taking care of your family?
To which you are unable to respond.
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Here’s the thing. He played softball BEFORE he married her and had kids. She KNEW what she was getting into. Also, on his side, there were probably times where she showed she could be a controlling cunt. Dating the single mommy with issues cuz it was an easier piece of ass (first mistake). He knocked her up anyway (second mistake). He tried to do the “right thing” and married her (third mistake). So both of them are at fault to a degree. But for her to give an ultimatum is bullshit. Especially since she knew it was/is his passion. That’s not “wife material”. That’s called being an uber cunt. And uber cunts tend to drive men away. Hence, the other babies…
You can’t change people. You won’t make an uber cunt turn into a loving wife unless SHE has some kind of life changing epiphany. He is better off single and searching for his happiness, finding it and taking custody of his kid and raising it in a somewhat ‘normal’ family. The world is full of too many entitled uber cunts that ruin men, families and their kids because of their selfishness. It’s a shame we can’t stone them in the street.
can you explain how and why im “butt hurt”, because im kinda lost?
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Here’s the thing. He played softball BEFORE he married her and had kids. She KNEW what she was getting into. Also, on his side, there were probably times where she showed she could be a controlling cunt. Dating the single mommy with issues cuz it was an easier piece of ass (first mistake). He knocked her up anyway (second mistake). He tried to do the “right thing” and married her (third mistake). So both of them are at fault to a degree. But for her to give an ultimatum is bullshit. Especially since she knew it was/is his passion. That’s not “wife material”. That’s called being an uber cunt. And uber cunts tend to drive men away. Hence, the other babies…
You can’t change people. You won’t make an uber cunt turn into a loving wife unless SHE has some kind of life changing epiphany. He is better off single and searching for his happiness, finding it and taking custody of his kid and raising it in a somewhat ‘normal’ family. The world is full of too many entitled uber cunts that ruin men, families and their kids because of their selfishness. It’s a shame we can’t stone them in the street.[/quote]
Totally agree.
YOU’RE looking fucking GREAT, Greg! I think you’re wrong on this issue, but your wife obviously “let’s” you dedicate the necessary time for YOUR passion… Just sayin’
What if she told you that you have to quit going to the gym or it was divorce time? Serious question…
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
YOU’RE looking fucking GREAT, Greg! I think you’re wrong on this issue, but your wife obviously “let’s” you dedicate the necessary time for YOUR passion… Just sayin’
What if she told you that you have to quit going to the gym or it was divorce time? Serious question…[/quote]
He’d get confused, have nothing to reply with, and then say she’s butt hurt.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
YOU’RE looking fucking GREAT, Greg! I think you’re wrong on this issue, but your wife obviously “let’s” you dedicate the necessary time for YOUR passion… Just sayin’
What if she told you that you have to quit going to the gym or it was divorce time? Serious question…[/quote]
Thanks dude, appreciate the kind words.
TBH, I’m lucky that I get to lift weights at work… So I do 2 a days when I’m at work so that I don’t have to lift on my off days and can spend time with her and my son.
She would never ask that of me… That’s why I married her 
BUT if she did it would be a big issue because, like you said, she knew that was a big part of my life before we got married.
But before I had my current job where I could workout at work I was getting up at 3:30am to be in and out of the gym before my wife and son woke up so that all the time that they were up, we could spend together.
EDIT: I’m not saying that the OP’s Ex is in the right here, quite the contrary, but I think there’s more to it than the OP lets on.
Either that or, like you said, there were PLENTY of warning signs that he ignored prior to getting married.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
YOU’RE looking fucking GREAT, Greg! I think you’re wrong on this issue, but your wife obviously “let’s” you dedicate the necessary time for YOUR passion… Just sayin’
What if she told you that you have to quit going to the gym or it was divorce time? Serious question…[/quote]
Thanks dude, appreciate the kind words.
TBH, I’m lucky that I get to lift weights at work… So I do 2 a days when I’m at work so that I don’t have to lift on my off days and can spend time with her and my son.
She would never ask that of me… That’s why I married her BUT if she did it would be a big issue because, like you said, she knew that was a big part of my life before we got married.
But before I had my current job where I could workout at work I was getting up at 3:30am to be in and out of the gym before my wife and son woke up so that all the time that they were up, we could spend together.[/quote]
Two a days while at work! I’m jelly! I’m gonna have to drop by your log to see what you’ve been up to (I used to lurk it fairly frequently).
But what would you do if you DIDN’T have the option of just doing it early (or while at work)? IF she changed her mind about having a super buff husband and told you, “stop working out or we will get divorced”… Even though I’m sure your wife would never do that, pretend for a minute that she did. What would your reaction be?
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
YOU’RE looking fucking GREAT, Greg! I think you’re wrong on this issue, but your wife obviously “let’s” you dedicate the necessary time for YOUR passion… Just sayin’
What if she told you that you have to quit going to the gym or it was divorce time? Serious question…[/quote]
Thanks dude, appreciate the kind words.
TBH, I’m lucky that I get to lift weights at work… So I do 2 a days when I’m at work so that I don’t have to lift on my off days and can spend time with her and my son.
She would never ask that of me… That’s why I married her BUT if she did it would be a big issue because, like you said, she knew that was a big part of my life before we got married.
But before I had my current job where I could workout at work I was getting up at 3:30am to be in and out of the gym before my wife and son woke up so that all the time that they were up, we could spend together.[/quote]
Two a days while at work! I’m jelly! I’m gonna have to drop by your log to see what you’ve been up to (I used to lurk it fairly frequently).
But what would you do if you DIDN’T have the option of just doing it early (or while at work)? IF she changed her mind about having a super buff husband and told you, “stop working out or we will get divorced”… Even though I’m sure your wife would never do that, pretend for a minute that she did. What would your reaction be?[/quote]
Ya, I’m definitely lucky to have the job I do.
Honestly? I really don’t know. I can’t even honestly put myself in that position. I would probably give up the gym because I couldn’t imagine losing my wife and son but would undoubtably grow more and more unhappy and resent her for it. That would be my guess.
…and then I would go on massive fast food/ice cream eating binges, turn into a 350+ pound super fatty, try out for The Biggest Loser, win the show and make $250,000, parlay that into Internet fitness fame, become a trainer to the stars and be rich.
It actually doesn’t like that bad of a plan…
[quote]gregron wrote:
…and then I would go on massive fast food/ice cream eating binges, turn into a 350+ pound monster[/quote]
Sounds like you should be doing this regardless. I mean only an idiot would look at a 350lb gregron and only see fat. Think of the gains you are sacrificing.