Reggie Bush

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[quote]Shortest Straw wrote:
I taught him everything he knows. Ha ha Just kidding , but I do have a funny story.

How many people could say they shared the field or court with a MJ or B.Sanders.

Well I shared the Field with Reggie Bush

The Year was 92 or 93 I was at the top of my football game in HS. I was a junior, and I went to the famous Offense Defense football camp. Its a full contact 10 day camp. WHere you learn from Pros, Pro coaches, and college coaches. Not to mention they were Two a days.

Well after we started hitting and getting into practice, the end of a week we had like two bowl games.

There are age groups one for the older varsity players, and two for the younger kids.

Well for the younger kids We all stood around and made a huge bowl and held our hands up during there game.

There was this little 9 yr old running back that seemed to be on another planet. He moved left , moved right , juked like he was a liongazele. all the older kids were like DAMMM! and the Pros , such as ROnnie lot were jumping and screaming at this kids moves.

He wore a visor looked slightly bigger than the other kids. Honestly looked like he could beat me in the forty yard dash.

My teamate said to me man remember that name BUSH, which was etched on the back of his jersey.

Well watching a USC game , I saw him play. I called my friend and he didn’t even remember what he said.

I emailed the camp, gave them my name year and location and asked if it was true.

Had I shared the field with reggie bush?

They confirmed indeed I had. Ha ha!

just thought its kind of funny.
I mean if you saw jordan at 9 yrs old you probably would be glad you did.[/quote]

That’s awesome

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[quote]Ballin4Christ32 wrote:
35-40 doesnt mean all rushing attempts with bush. 10-15 rushes, 10 or so catches, a couple punt returns…etc

Phoenix1911 wrote:
Nicholas F wrote:
Reggie Bush = A younger, faster and more sure handed version of Warrick Dunn.

I still say he needs to gain juuuuuust a few more lbs of muscle before he can become a go to guy who touches the ball 35-40 times a game.

LMAO 35-40 touches a game? I dont think there was a back in the league who touched the ball more then 30 times a game…and if they did that was considered alot. Take into consideration that the saints have split backs and he will never touch the ball more then 25 times(not counting receptions).

People place too much emphasis on weight in the NFL. You compare him to warrick dunn above and both of them (especially dunn) have proved you dont need to be huge to take on the load or be a beast in the NFL.

Edit: Larry Johnson had 1 game with 36 carries.

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Thank you, thats what I meant

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[quote]PGJ wrote:
I crap bigger than him.[/quote]

He could outrun you going backwards. Hell, he would probably outlift you too.

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ANYONE REMEMBER BARRY SANDERS? he rarely weighed 200 lbs. Ran most of his career aroudn 180, His upper body was pretty small. However he was very bottom heavy , which i do believe is better for a runner.

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[quote]gottatrain wrote:
rainjack wrote:
He’s over rated.

You give him 30 touches/catches a game, and he’ll last maybe 2 years in the NFL.

Keep him at 10 - 15 and he’ll last longer.

He’s a dragster - not a jeep.

This is the first time I’ve heard ANY reference ANYWHERE to Reggie Bush being “over-rated”. Furthermore, there is really no evidence anywhere (even apparently at the Pop Warner level per the above post) that he is “over-rated”. The guy has shined at every level, and based on what I saw last Sunday, he’ll be exceptional at the NFL level as well.

As far as the car analogy goes, I would liken him more to a Subie STi or Mitsu EVO…relatively small, powerful, fast as hell, and able to negotiate sharp corners with ease.

10-15 touches/game??? He’ll get many more than that.
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Yeah but hes from texas and most likely a UT fan…I havent met too many UT fans who think Bush is as good as everyone sais he is. They dont seem to notice people like dunn, barber, parker, jones, etc have proven it can be done.

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Rainjack is a Texas Tech fan, which is really all you need to know (may God have mercy on his tortured soul). Reggie Bush is a genetic anomaly. You just don’t see too many athletes in any sport with his abilities. I think a lot of it has to do with his drive though. That’s what’s really rare and he worked his ass off at quite an early age.

I think people underestimate just how plastic the human body is during childhood. If a kid with even decent genetics puts in the kind of work that Bush did on a consistent basis for many years, they would mature into a tremendous athlete. That’s a factor that can’t be overlooked.

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Everything everyone is saying is true about his abilities…but I remember hearing the same stuff about Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne. Those guys, in my opinion, we much better college players than Bush. The pro game is entirely different. Who’s the last Heisman to be worth a crap in the NFL? Probably Barry Sanders. You need a lot more than raw ability to make it in the pros.

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[quote]Nicholas F wrote:
PGJ wrote:
I crap bigger than him.

He could outrun you going backwards. Hell, he would probably outlift you too.[/quote]

That was a joke. Relax. You’ve never heard anyone ever say that?

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[quote]Phoenix1911 wrote:

Yeah but hes from texas and most likely a UT fan…I havent met too many UT fans who think Bush is as good as everyone sais he is. They dont seem to notice people like dunn, barber, parker, jones, etc have proven it can be done.[/quote]

I am not a t-sipper.

Bush has to be over-rated. I have not read so many e-gasms over one single college kid in my life.

There is no way the kid can live up to the expectations.

Bush rarely had over 20 touches per game in college - splitting time with the other RB. That was also in a conference that thinks defense is something you hit de ball over.

If you haven’t heard the term “over-rated” and Bush in the same sentence - you obviously only hear what you want to, and ignore the rest.

As has been said earlier - he was a great college back in a weak conference with no defense.

Let’s wait and see if he can actually produce for a whole season before you start giving him blow jobs.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Phoenix1911 wrote:

Yeah but hes from texas and most likely a UT fan…I havent met too many UT fans who think Bush is as good as everyone sais he is. They dont seem to notice people like dunn, barber, parker, jones, etc have proven it can be done.

I am not a t-sipper.

Bush has to be over-rated. I have not read so many e-gasms over one single college kid in my life.

There is no way the kid can live up to the expectations.

Bush rarely had over 20 touches per game in college - splitting time with the other RB. That was also in a conference that thinks defense is something you hit de ball over.

If you haven’t heard the term “over-rated” and Bush in the same sentence - you obviously only hear what you want to, and ignore the rest.

As has been said earlier - he was a great college back in a weak conference with no defense.

Let’s wait and see if he can actually produce for a whole season before you start giving him blow jobs.

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Very well said. Lindale White actually had similar numbers as Bush. Bush had 18 total TD’s and White had 26. Bush ran for 1740 yards with 300 receiving yards and White ran for 1302 and caught 200 yards. I predict Bush will be a solid long-term, mid-level player and White will be the next Jerome Bettis. Good point about the weak PAC-10. Washington State had a RB with 1900 yards rushing and 17 total td’s last year. Completely smoked Bush (especially considering the team talent at WAZZU). Anyone ever heard of him?

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[quote]PGJ wrote:
Who’s the last Heisman to be worth a crap in the NFL? Probably Barry Sanders. [/quote]

Carson Palmer…

Otherwise I agree that the Heisman is not that good of an indicator of future NFL success (or any other college award for that matter… remember Andy Katzenmoyer and Brian Bosworth who both won the Butkus award teice?)

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[quote]PGJ wrote:
Everything everyone is saying is true about his abilities…but I remember hearing the same stuff about Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne. Those guys, in my opinion, we much better college players than Bush. The pro game is entirely different. Who’s the last Heisman to be worth a crap in the NFL? Probably Barry Sanders. You need a lot more than raw ability to make it in the pros. [/quote]

WHAT?!?! That is an AWFUL example. You’re lumping Ricky Williams into the same category as Ron Dayne?!?!

On the rare occasions that he’s motivated to stay away from the Chronic and is permitted to actually play in the league, any Def. Coord. in the NFL would likely tell you that Ricky Williams is one of the top 5-6 backs in the league. What’s more, he’s proven it. His first season with Miami he ran for 1850 yards! The guy is fast enough to outrun cornerbacks and strong enough to run through LBs.

I agree with your example of Ron Dayne…monster in college/flop in the NFL.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Phoenix1911 wrote:

Yeah but hes from texas and most likely a UT fan…I havent met too many UT fans who think Bush is as good as everyone sais he is. They dont seem to notice people like dunn, barber, parker, jones, etc have proven it can be done.

I am not a t-sipper.

Bush has to be over-rated. I have not read so many e-gasms over one single college kid in my life.

There is no way the kid can live up to the expectations.

Bush rarely had over 20 touches per game in college - splitting time with the other RB. That was also in a conference that thinks defense is something you hit de ball over.

If you haven’t heard the term “over-rated” and Bush in the same sentence - you obviously only hear what you want to, and ignore the rest.

As has been said earlier - he was a great college back in a weak conference with no defense.

Let’s wait and see if he can actually produce for a whole season before you start giving him blow jobs.
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Ummm…“blow jobs” aside…The kid seemingly makes everyone else on the field look like they’re standing still. Agreed that we’ll need to look back at this thread come Dec/Jan.

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[quote]PGJ wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Phoenix1911 wrote:

Yeah but hes from texas and most likely a UT fan…I havent met too many UT fans who think Bush is as good as everyone sais he is. They dont seem to notice people like dunn, barber, parker, jones, etc have proven it can be done.

I am not a t-sipper.

Bush has to be over-rated. I have not read so many e-gasms over one single college kid in my life.

There is no way the kid can live up to the expectations.

Bush rarely had over 20 touches per game in college - splitting time with the other RB. That was also in a conference that thinks defense is something you hit de ball over.

If you haven’t heard the term “over-rated” and Bush in the same sentence - you obviously only hear what you want to, and ignore the rest.

As has been said earlier - he was a great college back in a weak conference with no defense.

Let’s wait and see if he can actually produce for a whole season before you start giving him blow jobs.

Very well said. Lindale White actually had similar numbers as Bush. Bush had 18 total TD’s and White had 26. Bush ran for 1740 yards with 300 receiving yards and White ran for 1302 and caught 200 yards. I predict Bush will be a solid long-term, mid-level player and White will be the next Jerome Bettis. Good point about the weak PAC-10. Washington State had a RB with 1900 yards rushing and 17 total td’s last year. Completely smoked Bush (especially considering the team talent at WAZZU). Anyone ever heard of him?

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Interesting…I’m thinking that we’ll be talking about Lindale White in the same vein as Ron Dayne. The kid was great in college; however, he showed up fat and out-of-shape at the combine and fucked up once already during Titans camp. I could be very wrong, but I think he lacks the one thing that Bush seems to have…discipline.

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[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Who’s the last Heisman to be worth a crap in the NFL? Probably Barry Sanders.

Carson Palmer…

Otherwise I agree that the Heisman is not that good of an indicator of future NFL success (or any other college award for that matter… remember Andy Katzenmoyer and Brian Bosworth who both won the Butkus award teice?)
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THE BOZ!!! Sure he wasn’t great in the NFL, but his haircut was awesome. Remember the half jersey he wore in college? That should come back in style…ha!

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[quote]PGJ wrote:
Washington State had a RB with 1900 yards rushing and 17 total td’s last year. Completely smoked Bush (especially considering the team talent at WAZZU). Anyone ever heard of him?

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Jerome Harrison.

great back, never got half the credit he deserved.

a lot like Quentin Griffin out of OU netting 2000+ yards from scrimmage and 20 total TD’s in 2002, and not getting a lick of Heisman talk. Especially since there were no great picks for the Heisman that year.

The Heisman is horribly overrated nowadays. It’s not who’s the best anymore, just who gets the most hype.

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[quote]gottatrain wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Everything everyone is saying is true about his abilities…but I remember hearing the same stuff about Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne. Those guys, in my opinion, we much better college players than Bush. The pro game is entirely different. Who’s the last Heisman to be worth a crap in the NFL? Probably Barry Sanders. You need a lot more than raw ability to make it in the pros.

WHAT?!?! That is an AWFUL example. You’re lumping Ricky Williams into the same category as Ron Dayne?!?!

On the rare occasions that he’s motivated to stay away from the Chronic and is permitted to actually play in the league, any Def. Coord. in the NFL would likely tell you that Ricky Williams is one of the top 5-6 backs in the league. What’s more, he’s proven it. His first season with Miami he ran for 1850 yards! The guy is fast enough to outrun cornerbacks and strong enough to run through LBs.

I agree with your example of Ron Dayne…monster in college/flop in the NFL.

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Ricky had one good season. All the potential in the world, man among boys in college, but not a great NFL player. He could be, but he isn’t.

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[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Who’s the last Heisman to be worth a crap in the NFL? Probably Barry Sanders.

Carson Palmer…

Otherwise I agree that the Heisman is not that good of an indicator of future NFL success (or any other college award for that matter… remember Andy Katzenmoyer and Brian Bosworth who both won the Butkus award teice?)

THE BOZ!!! Sure he wasn’t great in the NFL, but his haircut was awesome. Remember the half jersey he wore in college? That should come back in style…ha![/quote]

Yes, half shirts and the tall shoulderpads like that guy from Michigan back in the 80’s. I remember we used to stick pieces of foam under the top flap on our shoulderpads back in the day to look like that dude. Who was that? I think he was a receiver.

What about Tony Mandarich that lineman from Michigan St. who was supposed to be the next great thing, and that USC QB who was programmed from birth to play in the pros. Lawrence Phillips, nuff said. College success means nothing.

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[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Who’s the last Heisman to be worth a crap in the NFL? Probably Barry Sanders.

Carson Palmer…

Otherwise I agree that the Heisman is not that good of an indicator of future NFL success (or any other college award for that matter… remember Andy Katzenmoyer and Brian Bosworth who both won the Butkus award teice?)

THE BOZ!!! Sure he wasn’t great in the NFL, but his haircut was awesome. Remember the half jersey he wore in college? That should come back in style…ha![/quote]

Boz was great in the new “The Longest Yard”.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
I am not a t-sipper.

Bush has to be over-rated. I have not read so many e-gasms over one single college kid in my life.

There is no way the kid can live up to the expectations.

Bush rarely had over 20 touches per game in college - splitting time with the other RB. That was also in a conference that thinks defense is something you hit de ball over.

If you haven’t heard the term “over-rated” and Bush in the same sentence - you obviously only hear what you want to, and ignore the rest.

As has been said earlier - he was a great college back in a weak conference with no defense.

Let’s wait and see if he can actually produce for a whole season before you start giving him blow jobs.

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Before I argue I totally agree with the conference USC plays in…the defenses are cookie cutter.

You bring up the fact that he only had 20 touches or so a game but that sais absolutely nothing about him. USC runs a pro style offense with split backs and an ex nfl coach. Hes not going to run every single play of the game. He played when they needed him to and that was that. That does not mean he couldnt take hits or he didnt have the stamina to play the entire game…all it means is the gameplan calls for using 2 running backs.

Also you bring up the conference which I agree with to an extent but has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on tranlation of talent into the NFL. If the conference played in mattered guys like chad johnson, terrell owens, steve smith, carson palmer, jerry rice, ladanian tomlinson, jason taylor etc would all suck.

So tell me why there is no way he can live up to the hype? I dont know if he will or not but id damn well love to see him do it…and theres nothing stopping him from doing so.