Did we just witness you accept someone’s suggestion?
Who are you and what have you done with Pwn!
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My writing is SO different from my training you have no idea, haha. I actually ENJOY writing. Love taking suggestions there. Meanwhile, suggestions for training are like having people watch me drive a spike through my foot and having them recommend a better brand of hammer.
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Eastwing bro. Anything less is a dishonor to the pain.
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Collectivism in lifting is one of my favourite Pwn posts and that’s definitely a request
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This is a bigger topic than I typically try to get into on here, and the forums are a tough place to respond to everyone - or at least to clearly get my thoughts across while treating it as a discussion. I’ll try to kind of bullet point some stuff here, though:
You’re definitely on-point with a really a dichotomy of concepts. Children absolutely need socializing outside of the walls of this house. They need other viewpoints, they need to witness other lifestyles, they just need diversity in experience and communication - not to mention I truly believe humans are pack animals and, if you don’t see a role to fill, you will be unfulfilled.
On the other hand, we can’t (and probably shouldn’t) completely control those outside interactions. This leaves a world where children are exposed to thoughts and concepts well before they’ve had the ability to develop their own principles and beliefs. That’s inconsequential as long as I think the majority of lessons are beneficial for their development. Clearly that’s not what I’ve, and it sounds like maybe you’ve, seen. I think the overall trend in the US’ work ethic, thought process, robustness, moral code, sense of duty, sense of responsibility and accountability, tolerance for diverse opinions, and overall desire to improve has seen a dramatic decline in a very short period. This trend honestly makes it tough when kids push back on expectations because, who knows, maybe being what I think is a turd really is the way to succeed in the future and my expectations are wrong?
Hell yeah
This is kind of what’s tough as a parent, and really a leader in general as I know you’re not quickly on your way to motherhood - we’re all still individuals.
I know how I think and what motivates me/ doesn’t impact me, and it’s not the same as my kids. And my kids are not the same as each other. So you have to figure out where I’m just trying to do what I want vs. give them what they need - while at the same time still helping to develop them positively (and drive team goals in that setting).
Like, if you tell me “good job” at work - whatever, where’s my bonus? I don’t care about the platitudes and it doesn’t hurt me to be told someone hates me or my strategy is off or whatever - I’ll deal with it.
My son can’t tolerate thinking anyone is upset with him; it crushes his world and then he can’t function. So, when I think I’m coaching him up, I’m actually turning him off from giving any effort. He needs lots of “good try” kind of praise along the way.
My daughter loves being coached and can immediately put any cues into action. She also likes a scoreboard, but celebrates team wins a little more than me - like it doesn’t bother her to not be the star player as long as she contributed (and she’s very social).
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agreed…
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Not a parent, but it’s admirable that you can recognise the difference in what both your kids need and actually apply that to how you teach them. Not many kids are as lucky
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I appreciate that. Hopefully I’m as consistent in doing so as I intend to be!
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Solid discussion up above, I’ll wanna come back to it when I have more time.
LUNCHTIME WORKOUT
50 minute walk w/80lb vest
Notes: It was 100 degrees today with the heat index, and those kind of opportunities can’t get passed up. Vested up and found some hilly parts to plod along. I was due for something lower intensity: I was hurting today.
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This lesson has been a critical one for me; sadly, it took me way too long to learn. Double-trouble because my wife and I are so similar in so many ways, but both of our kids are quite different from the two of us, and they’re very different from each other, as well.
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Most of those that workout miss this point. Unfortunately, the human body will hold as much fat and as little muscle as you let it. Muscle takes a lot of energy to maintain, and fat is stored energy, so from an evolutionary perspective it makes sense. That’s why doing relatively easy cardio (like elliptical) and just adding more and more time to that (like many people who “workout” do) can still leave you a pudgy person. Your body has no need to adapt and build a lean, muscular physique to accomplish what you’re asking it to do even if keep extending the time spent on that activity. Hard strength work and burpees, however, require your body to build and maintain muscle and be relatively lean.
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It’s made even tougher because the look like you! Tricks you into thinking they’re little clones
DEEP WATER BEGINNER, Week 5, Workout 3
AM WORKOUT (0310 wake up via alarm)
Axle clean and strict press away 136
10x10
10 band pull aparts between odd sets/8 chins between even sets
Immediately after 10th set
50 dips
25 pushdowns
Lateral raises (no rest between sets)
20x20lbs
20x10
20x5
20x2.5
20xEmpty Hands
20 standing ab wheel
40 reverse hypers
Poundstone Curls
107xAxle+5lbs
Notes: 2:45 between sets of presses. Humidity has grown intense in the garage: it was like I had taken a shower by the time it was all over. Weight is once again +/- 5lbs of where it needs to be. I felt fatigue in the 7th rep of every set, and the final 2 sets had some legit struggle in them. 2 minute rests will prove interesting.
Assistance work felt particularly solid today. Great mind muscle connection.
Plan to get in Grace later today, given that the axle is already loaded. I’m working a 10, so it’s a little tight, but that makes a 3 minute workout perfect. My hands are still pretty shredded up from a bunch of cleans and KB work. Super glue may be in my future.
Over the past 2 days, I’ve had 2 random strangers approach me to comment on my arms, and today at work a co-worker wanted to talk with me about supplements and what his kids should be taking to get bigger for college ball. This happened during my last gaining phase, and tends to be a good sign that I’m putting on quality mass. This is definitely the leannest I’ve been at this size, as typically I can get sloppy at this point.
All that said, it’s also just f**king annoying, because it’s a million goddamn degrees and I just wanna wear a tanktop in peace. At least the Mrs is with me when these things happen so she knows I’m not making it up.
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Hope you got them on the mass gainers and creatine. 
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He wanted to talk about creatine SO MUCH. That an ammino acids. I kept saying they should be getting that from FOOD.
Dude kept hard agreeing with me about food while then hand waving it and asking where I buy my supplements. I told him I drank a gallon of milk a day in college to put on 12lbs in 6 weeks. Didn’t even register.
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Don’t you just love it when people you work with make assumptions about you because you look like you train. I get this often and mostly it is about diet or what you eat. I (probably like you) prepare my meals for work and eat similar for every meal. Based on this my co workers automatically assume that I don’t eat anything else or that I am very fussy with food. Someone went to the shop the other day and forgot to ask you me if I wanted something. When they were all eating their French fries and doughnuts they said we didn’t ask you because you don’t eat this stuff. My response was ‘what stuff food?’
Ahh, the good ol’ whole milk and squats routine. I put on 20 lbs in 2 months following a similar protocol in college. I appreciate good supplements, but the amount of them I take has dwindled significantly over the years.I fell victim to good advertising a few too many times.
@simo74 The most frustrating assumption I deal with is that I don’t work hard. I’ve had so many people make denigrating statements about how whatever I eat just turns to muscle or I can just eat whatever I want etc etc. And it’s frustrating because I’m sure, in their eyes, it’s some sort of compliment to go “you’re so genetically blessed”, but it’s just more hand waving. But I’ve also dealt with the same stuff you talk about too, particularly when I DO eat “off menu”. Everyone else can stuff their face with donuts, burgers, cake, etc, but if I eat ONE mini-snickers bar I get “Oh, is it your cheat day?” F**k off: I got up at 0310 this morning so I could get in ONE of my training sessions for the day: you’ve been cheating your whole life.
@cyclonengineer It was SUCH a good time in my life: still living in college with access to a dinning hall and a beautiful girlfriend (who would one day become my wife) that was buying me extra food at the campus diner. My advice to all young college dudes is to find a woman that wants to take care of you so you have your meals covered, haha.
I always say that supplement companies sell hope. I still walk into a GNC every once in a while wanting to “believe”. I usually walk out with creatine and vitamin B.
@TrainForPain what’s really interesting regarding my “what are parents teaching” thing is I wasn’t even approaching the ethics/morals perspective (which, don’t get me wrong, I’m appalled at what many parents find acceptable there) but more on a micro level. Before my kid went to school, they were well spoken and articulate, enunciating every syllable they spoke, because it’s how we spoke to them at home. We never used baby talk, always a grown up vocab, clearly spoken, etc. Within a week of school, they were coming home mush-mouthed with some sort of patois of slang. We immediately corrected it, but it wasn’t until they had a friend over and I couldn’t understand a damn word they said that it dawned on me what happened. We’ve many times have had the conversation with my kid to never be ashamed of their intellect, because I remember getting picked on for having a big vocabulary and not using slang in school, and it’s just the masses wanting to destroy anything that threatens them.
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I equate many supplements now to fishing lures - plenty of them on the market, only a few actually work and the rest are meant to catch fisherman.
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This is reminding me of a friend who worked in a well known health food shop chain here and was instructed on what vitamins/herbs to sell “people who feel lonely”.
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